Rear differential fluid change
Does anyone have diy instruction for rear differential fluid change? I found post for the 2nd gen and it's doable without jack. I wonder if it's the same with 3rd gen. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by omygod711
(Post 16371913)
Does anyone have diy instruction for rear differential fluid change? I found post for the 2nd gen and it's doable without jack. I wonder if it's the same with 3rd gen. Thanks.
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Follow the maintenance minder's schedule, but here's roughly how you'd do it:
You may also be asked to change the oil transfer case at the same time. |
The rear diff has changed a bit since 2nd-gen RDX. and also since 2015 MDX. In terms of DIY fluid change, the drain port has moved around a bit. On 2019 RDX it's on the left ( driver's ) side, near the front of the diff.
Transfer fluid change is usually done along with transmission fluid change, although they are completely separate. "Normal" service interval for the rear diff should be first change at about 15k miles, then every 30k miles. The MM will adjust this a bit to coincide with oil changes. |
Note: I was about to post rear diff fluid changes from the official Honda/Acura on-line service manual, but they are WRONG!
The manual shows a drain bolt at the back of the diff, but I did a reality check under the vehicle and it's on the driver's side. Yeesh. :whyme: |
Or do I need new glasses? ( Possible... ) Anyway, now these instructions look OK. The first view is from the back. But if you have a spare tire installed, it will be a bit more crowded. I usually drop the spare.
The second view is from the driver's side looking toward midline. The driveshaft is to the left. Note the last few steps about running the engine before topping off the fluid. That's because this version of the SH-AWD rear diff has electric hydraulic pumps. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...98ebdc893a.jpg |
Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380081)
Or do I need new glasses? ( Possible... ) Anyway, now these instructions look OK. The first view is from the back. But if you have a spare tire installed, it will be a bit more crowded. I usually drop the spare.
The second view is from the driver's side looking toward midline. The driveshaft is to the left. Note the last few steps about running the engine before topping off the fluid. That's because this version of the SH-AWD rear diff has electric hydraulic pumps. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...98ebdc893a.jpg |
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Note any high quality hypoid gear oil is fine for the transfer case lube; I usually use Mobil 1 75W-90
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@Wander i gotta admit that those procedures are about as simple as it gets for changing fluid, I was expecting a much more in-depth procedure for the transmission ha ha, thanks a bunch for posting those. Also they mention there is a transmission fluid level check procedure that I didn’t see, would you have that by chance? I take it up to the filler hole but just wanna be sure. This will be a piece of freaking cake to change these
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In my personal opinion you should always start by removing the filler plug FIRST, them the drain. Contrary to what its indicated on the procedure manual.
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Agree with removing fill plug first. Always. So you can drive it to dealer service if you can't get the fill plug out. :surrender:
Tough to do with no fluid. :doh: Presumably dealer service has tools not available to most shade-tree mechanics, and most owners probably wouldn't accept "sorry, we couldn't change the fluid because the plug was too tight". Here's the ATF level check procedure. Sorry about the confusion. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...e7fe256c51.jpg |
Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380165)
Agree with removing fill plug first. Always. So you can drive it to dealer service if you can't get the fill plug out. :surrender:
Tough to do with no fluid. :doh: Presumably dealer service has tools not available to most shade-tree mechanics, and most owners probably wouldn't accept "sorry, we couldn't change the fluid because the plug was too tight". Here's the ATF level check procedure. Sorry about the confusion. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...e7fe256c51.jpg |
I would think most of us shade tree mechanics don’t have a lift. So, if you have two jack stands or even ramps, can this procedure be done correctly with the vehicle at an angle? Talking about the rear diff. |
Originally Posted by Master47
(Post 16380308)
I would think most of us shade tree mechanics don’t have a lift. So, if you have two jack stands or even ramps, can this procedure be done correctly with the vehicle at an angle? Talking about the rear diff. |
Originally Posted by Master47
(Post 16380308)
I would think most of us shade tree mechanics don’t have a lift. So, if you have two jack stands or even ramps, can this procedure be done correctly with the vehicle at an angle? Talking about the rear diff. The front is more of a challenge to slide under, but that's how I do it. I have jack stands ( 2 sets ), I just don't trust them to support the car when I'm under it. In my foolish youth, I was much more cavalier. But I live in farm country, and farmers make the news by getting crushed by tractors or whatever. Way too often. |
Thanks for sharing these files. Jobs like these are so easy to do and can save you a ton of cash. Are these from the online service manual that you pay to have access to or are they available with the materials that come with the car (free online database)?
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Originally Posted by quantum7
(Post 16380374)
Thanks for sharing these files. Jobs like these are so easy to do and can save you a ton of cash. Are these from the online service manual that you pay to have access to or are they available with the materials that come with the car (free online database)?
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Pay to play for the online service manual. $10 for 24 hours. $50 for a month. $350 for a year. This gives you access to all Acura vehicles or all Honda vehicles, but not both.
And they make it difficult to download .pdf files. I was doing screen captures, but I just established that if you use the "print" icon to create a screen image, you can then use the browser's export function to generate a .pdf file. |
Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380559)
Pay to play for the online service manual. $10 for 24 hours. $50 for a month. $350 for a year. This gives you access to all Acura vehicles or all Honda vehicles, but not both.
And they make it difficult to download .pdf files. I was doing screen captures, but I just established that if you use the "print" icon to create a screen image, you can then use the browser's export function to generate a .pdf file. |
Originally Posted by Dereileak
(Post 16380568)
do they have a way to print the entire manual and then use the export as pdf? |
Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380582)
Not that I know of. And there are hyperlinks in the manual pages, so a lot gets lost in translation, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380081)
Or do I need new glasses? ( Possible... ) Anyway, now these instructions look OK. The first view is from the back. But if you have a spare tire installed, it will be a bit more crowded. I usually drop the spare.
The second view is from the driver's side looking toward midline. The driveshaft is to the left. Note the last few steps about running the engine before topping off the fluid. That's because this version of the SH-AWD rear diff has electric hydraulic pumps. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...98ebdc893a.jpg Is this the correct sealing washer?? |
Originally Posted by omygod711
(Post 16393496)
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42 is the filler washer, 31 is the drain washer, so part 90471-PX4-000, careful buying on amazon, some of the reviews are saying they are getting fake parts on there
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Don't tell anyone, but I don't usually bother with replacing the rear diff crush washers. The engine oil crush washer I might throw on if I have one. Especially if I drop the old one in the oil pan and I don't feel like fishing it out.
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Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16393979)
Don't tell anyone, but I don't usually bother with replacing the rear diff crush washers. The engine oil crush washer I might throw on if I have one. Especially if I drop the old one in the oil pan and I don't feel like fishing it out.
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Originally Posted by Burger Steak & Eggs
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I'll always prefer / use the new one, but a number of times I've had to re-use the old one. I've never had a re-used one fail or leak.
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How important is the part where you have to start the engine and let it idle for 1 minute, then refill? How many shops really do that?
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Originally Posted by omygod711
(Post 16394563)
How important is the part where you have to start the engine and let it idle for 1 minute, then refill? How many shops really do that?
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***Double posted by accident
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Originally Posted by Dereileak
(Post 16394586)
for the transmission I would imagine very important as the fluid level could drop after idiling, your supposed to also shift through gears in a certain order, for the diffs I doubt it’s a big deal, but I mean it takes all of 2-3 minutes, why not follow the directions :) Considering that I don't have a "level ground" available, I am going to bring it to a local mechanic where there is a lift with my own dpsf and pump, I'm sure all they have are Mobil 1 and dirty pumps. Just wondering how anal I will have to be to make sure he follows all the direction. I assumed he will have to bring the car down idle it and lift it up again to refill and I'm sure he doesn't want to do that cause he is in a rush, the line is always crazy at that place. |
Originally Posted by omygod711
(Post 16394597)
Considering that I don't have a "level ground" available, I am going to bring it to a local mechanic where there is a lift with my own dpsf and pump, I'm sure all they have are Mobil 1 and dirty pumps. Just wondering how anal I will have to be to make sure he follows all the direction. I assumed he will have to bring the car down idle it and lift it up again to refill and I'm sure he doesn't want to do that cause he is in a rush, the line is always crazy at that place.
They will purge themselves anyway the first time the car is driven, but to the extent fluid replaces air inside the hydraulic circuits, the diff will low on fluid by that amount. |
Official Part List for Rear Differential Fluid change:
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Originally Posted by OliveBread
(Post 16410898)
Official Part List for Rear Differential Fluid change:
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Originally Posted by OliveBread
(Post 16410898)
Official Part List for Rear Differential Fluid change:
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Originally Posted by Wander
(Post 16380114)
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