Software lead time
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Software lead time
I just read an interview in the November 2019 Automobile Magazine with Tadge Juechter, the Corvette Executive Chief Engineer...regarding the new C8, the first mid engine Corvette.
Automobile Magazine asked: "It's got to be a relief to be done with development, right?"
Juechter: "...The terrible thing about how complicated the electronics are in cars today is that the software is now the long lead time. Longer than giant tools that you have to make for body panels or structure, or anything..."
While it certainly seems that Acura didn't spend enough time getting the software done properly for the 3G RDX in time for it's release, (or perhaps they should have waited to release the '19 RDX until the "traditional release time" of Fall, rather than June?) I still think we need to be patient and let them get it right. It will not be a quick fix.
Just my humble opinion, and seemlngly backed up by Mr. Juedhters comment.
Automobile Magazine asked: "It's got to be a relief to be done with development, right?"
Juechter: "...The terrible thing about how complicated the electronics are in cars today is that the software is now the long lead time. Longer than giant tools that you have to make for body panels or structure, or anything..."
While it certainly seems that Acura didn't spend enough time getting the software done properly for the 3G RDX in time for it's release, (or perhaps they should have waited to release the '19 RDX until the "traditional release time" of Fall, rather than June?) I still think we need to be patient and let them get it right. It will not be a quick fix.
Just my humble opinion, and seemlngly backed up by Mr. Juedhters comment.
#2
Burning Brakes
No doubt. You just wish there was a better, or any, communication pipeline from manufacturer to owners. Tesla seems to really do a good job of hammering out software releases, improvements and communication on what they are doing. Maybe Tesla owners would disagree, but I seem to see a lot of info on what they are doing and how they are resolving issues. On a side note, how about that C8. Of course there have only been photos so far, but that looks like one great looking car.
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I just read an interview in the November 2019 Automobile Magazine with Tadge Juechter, the Corvette Executive Chief Engineer...regarding the new C8, the first mid engine Corvette.
Automobile Magazine asked: "It's got to be a relief to be done with development, right?"
Juechter: "...The terrible thing about how complicated the electronics are in cars today is that the software is now the long lead time. Longer than giant tools that you have to make for body panels or structure, or anything..."
While it certainly seems that Acura didn't spend enough time getting the software done properly for the 3G RDX in time for it's release, (or perhaps they should have waited to release the '19 RDX until the "traditional release time" of Fall, rather than June?) I still think we need to be patient and let them get it right. It will not be a quick fix.
Just my humble opinion, and seemlngly backed up by Mr. Juedhters comment.
Automobile Magazine asked: "It's got to be a relief to be done with development, right?"
Juechter: "...The terrible thing about how complicated the electronics are in cars today is that the software is now the long lead time. Longer than giant tools that you have to make for body panels or structure, or anything..."
While it certainly seems that Acura didn't spend enough time getting the software done properly for the 3G RDX in time for it's release, (or perhaps they should have waited to release the '19 RDX until the "traditional release time" of Fall, rather than June?) I still think we need to be patient and let them get it right. It will not be a quick fix.
Just my humble opinion, and seemlngly backed up by Mr. Juedhters comment.
Software leadtime isn't something new and leadtime is never an excuse for pushing out a product before it is ready.
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ceb, why do you call yourself a Dog?
Je suis un Chien
I do agree with you that the 3rd Gen 2019 & 2020 RDX would be a fantastic automobile if they got the bugs out of the infotainment once & for all..
Being an unpaid beta tester sucks especially when one forks over $50k
Je suis un Chien
I do agree with you that the 3rd Gen 2019 & 2020 RDX would be a fantastic automobile if they got the bugs out of the infotainment once & for all..
Being an unpaid beta tester sucks especially when one forks over $50k
Last edited by Mark S Long Island; 10-29-2019 at 01:58 PM.
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Then there is the issue that because the Infotainment system is built on Android there may be a bug with Android that Acura devs have nothing to do with. In fact the devs may be sourced out. Same happened with Ford's MyFord Touch on my last car. They farmed it out to some dipshits called BSquared who took about 2 years to work out the major bugs.
In any case, I think the need is clear for them to QA the software better but I doubt they read these forums. I suggest you put in a line to corporate and add your voice. I would expect it will take them several releases to work out the kinks. And if you go in there and start throwing out this idea that you're an unpaid beta tester or throw too much shade, you won't get very far. I've been around too many product managers and C-levels. Not saying it's right, just saying that's how it is at least IMHO. Instead my advice is to calmly and persuasively lay out your case with reasonable expectations. That they communicate better about the direction of the product and the larger flaws with it, and that they check for your specific use cases as part of their QA process to hopefully avoid it happening in the future. All software will have bugs and that's just a fact of life. But with enough people voicing the issues they are facing with the system it will hopefully cause Acura to focus on the most urgent and widespread issues first.
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JB in AZ (10-29-2019)
#6
ceb, why do you call yourself a Dog?
Je suis un Chien
I do agree with you that the 3rd Gen 2019 & 2020 RDX would be a fantastic automobile if they got the bugs out of the infotainment once & for all..
Being an unpaid beta tester sucks especially when one forks over $50k
Je suis un Chien
I do agree with you that the 3rd Gen 2019 & 2020 RDX would be a fantastic automobile if they got the bugs out of the infotainment once & for all..
Being an unpaid beta tester sucks especially when one forks over $50k
In the middle of November of 2015, terrorists shot a police dog named Diesel during a raid in France starting the slogan "Je suis un Chien", so I changed to that since we were in the process of adopting a military working dog. I never changed it after that.
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Our software developers said you can’t hurry the process all that much. “ One woman can give birth in 9 months, but if you put 9 women on the job, you can’t get a baby in one month.”
Acura’s project management and software development have dropped the ball. Will I trust this team going forward as more and more software gets integrated into our cars? At the moment, no.
Acura’s project management and software development have dropped the ball. Will I trust this team going forward as more and more software gets integrated into our cars? At the moment, no.
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The problem with software development today is that companies are using trendy methodologies instead of good programmers. Emphasis on "Agile", "Test Driven Development", "Engineering Best Practices", "MVC Architecture", "Separation of Concerns", "Pair Programming", and other horse-poop that dominates the IT field today DOES NOT result in quality software. In fact, quite the opposite outcome is usually the case UNLESS there are a few good programmers on the team that overcome all of this nonsense and actually produce good, tight, efficient, and robust code.
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