RDX and SUV speeds in general
#1
RDX and SUV speeds in general
Hi guys. I'm currently driving a 2023 RDX Aspec Advance. My objective was to immediately get the KTuner stage 3 once I got the RDX. I haven't yet. Now that I have the RDX, I feel it is plenty fast but then again I'm coming from a 2005 TSX which I still have by the way. I had the Hondata reflash on my TSX and also the comptech supercharger. Honestly I had a little buyer's remorse with the RDX because I've primarily driven sedans but I wanted something different. The rollover warning on the RDX sun visor made me think oh boy... Not used to that. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the vehicle but I'm second guessing if I should get the KTuner now. Forgive my naive question but what is the big infatuation of having a crazy fast SUV/CUV if there is increased risk of roll over. Seems like you are essentially limited to straight line only and won't really be able to enjoy the speed. I wouldn't want a really slow SUV but mid 6's seems fast enough. No? Please educate me as an SUV newbie. Maybe not all SUVs are created equal and can handle curves close to a sedan.
#2
Thats a pretty standard warning for SUVs these days. I don't get the tippy feeling in the RDX. You should find the handling plenty good. If you were looking for an SUV that was a significantly better handler, you'd be spending quite a bit more.
#3
Racer
Seems like a tune is a non-event to me. Buy one if you want a faster RDX. Rollovers are usually caused by extreme counter-steering. You don't counter-steer driving down a twisty road or even a weekend-warrior track event. Regarding excess speed and bad driving technique, a stock RDX is fast enough to get a driver into trouble if he/she misjudges something. If a tuned RDX has the extra power to enter some hypothetical corner perhaps 2-3 mph faster than a stock RDX, it won’t make any difference. It will still amount to driver error in both cases.
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NBPDC505 (08-15-2023)
#4
I never thought I would see the words "crazy fast" and "RDX" together!
All kidding aside, tuning your RDX is only going to increase the possibility of an accident (based on your current driving habits). If you really want to go back to feeling planted, you should probably go back to a sedan.
Any reason you didn't wait for the RDX Type S to come out?
All kidding aside, tuning your RDX is only going to increase the possibility of an accident (based on your current driving habits). If you really want to go back to feeling planted, you should probably go back to a sedan.
Any reason you didn't wait for the RDX Type S to come out?
#5
Burning Brakes
Hi guys. I'm currently driving a 2023 RDX Aspec Advance. My objective was to immediately get the KTuner stage 3 once I got the RDX. I haven't yet. Now that I have the RDX, I feel it is plenty fast but then again I'm coming from a 2005 TSX which I still have by the way. I had the Hondata reflash on my TSX and also the comptech supercharger. Honestly I had a little buyer's remorse with the RDX because I've primarily driven sedans but I wanted something different. The rollover warning on the RDX sun visor made me think oh boy... Not used to that. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the vehicle but I'm second guessing if I should get the KTuner now. Forgive my naive question but what is the big infatuation of having a crazy fast SUV/CUV if there is increased risk of roll over. Seems like you are essentially limited to straight line only and won't really be able to enjoy the speed. I wouldn't want a really slow SUV but mid 6's seems fast enough. No? Please educate me as an SUV newbie. Maybe not all SUVs are created equal and can handle curves close to a sedan.
The Acura is a "sporty SUV", as opposed to a "sports SUV". Faster SUV? Tesla Model Y Performance (0-60 - 3.5 sec), BMW x1M or X3M (Under 5 secs) to name two. A little SUV rocket - Hyundai Kona N - power, brakes and suspension to rip up some roads. Bigger - Ford Explorer ST with the Performance pack.
If you add more speed and HP, definitely want to address the brakes - as they are just adequate with the stock power. Suspension, tires and rims are for mostly hauling people - not a curvy road carver. That was never the intention of the RDX, nor most SUV's. Center of gravity is higher, sure if you tried hard enough you can roll any vehicle - but on public roads?
Look at all the mods for the Rahal RDX - lots of $$$ put into that build. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...m-rahal-semaa/
Last edited by Texasrdx21; 08-15-2023 at 07:52 AM.
#6
mrgold35
My first Acura was an 06 TSX 5AT and I added Progress RSB, Heal Toe camber kit, Fastline endlinks, and ASpec suspension. I called the TSX my 4-door coupe because I really liked the handling; but, hated the lack of hp/tq (live/drive 5000-7200 feet at 75-80 mph). I didn't want to spend the $$ for Hondata or Comptech S/C at the time for the TSX. Ended up adding an 08 RDX tech with Hondata, ETS intercooler, Progress RSB, heatshield gasket, Eibach lowering springs, and ultra high performance all seasons (around 280-295 hp/tq depending on time of year). The 08 RDX was pretty much a hammer if you only saw was nails and it drove better the harder you pushed it (main reason it didn't sell well, compared to the softer 3.5L 2nd Gen RDX).
I had to learn to drive the 2.3T sh-awd RDX differently in the curves compared to the fwd 06 TSX. I had to learn to down shift to engine brake, spool up the turbo, and use the throttle to engage the sh-awd tq vectoring to rotate the rear to get maximum "hammering". My RDX would do 20-25 mph above whatever the posted 90-270 degree exit ramps speed. Sh-awd does an excellent job of leveling out and rotating the rear for more secure handling under power when the road gets curvy or up mountain switchbacks. A sporty SUV/CUV can be just another top heavy vehicle if you drive it into the curves like a fwd sedan without engine power, no sh-awd, and riding the brakes. That is where the Progress RSB and Eibach lowering springs came in to improve the handling down the mountain switchback when you are off power.
The Sport Hybrid RLX/MDX/NSX are the only vehicles that had full time tq vectoring with regen braking with or without engine power. You could tq vector with the rear outside wheel and regen brake with the inside rear wheel for tighter turns on or off engine power with the the Sport Hybrid system.
I had to learn to drive the 2.3T sh-awd RDX differently in the curves compared to the fwd 06 TSX. I had to learn to down shift to engine brake, spool up the turbo, and use the throttle to engage the sh-awd tq vectoring to rotate the rear to get maximum "hammering". My RDX would do 20-25 mph above whatever the posted 90-270 degree exit ramps speed. Sh-awd does an excellent job of leveling out and rotating the rear for more secure handling under power when the road gets curvy or up mountain switchbacks. A sporty SUV/CUV can be just another top heavy vehicle if you drive it into the curves like a fwd sedan without engine power, no sh-awd, and riding the brakes. That is where the Progress RSB and Eibach lowering springs came in to improve the handling down the mountain switchback when you are off power.
The Sport Hybrid RLX/MDX/NSX are the only vehicles that had full time tq vectoring with regen braking with or without engine power. You could tq vector with the rear outside wheel and regen brake with the inside rear wheel for tighter turns on or off engine power with the the Sport Hybrid system.
#7
Burning Brakes
I generally find anything that can do 0-60 in under 7 seconds to be "quick enough" and the RDX falls under this BUT I wouldn't say no to another 60-100hp. Around the city it serves no purpose but when I floor it at 100kph I would definitely get value out of it.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
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#8
My first Acura was an 06 TSX 5AT and I added Progress RSB, Heal Toe camber kit, Fastline endlinks, and ASpec suspension. I called the TSX my 4-door coupe because I really liked the handling; but, hated the lack of hp/tq (live/drive 5000-7200 feet at 75-80 mph). I didn't want to spend the $$ for Hondata or Comptech S/C at the time for the TSX. Ended up adding an 08 RDX tech with Hondata, ETS intercooler, Progress RSB, heatshield gasket, Eibach lowering springs, and ultra high performance all seasons (around 280-295 hp/tq depending on time of year). The 08 RDX was pretty much a hammer if you only saw was nails and it drove better the harder you pushed it (main reason it didn't sell well, compared to the softer 3.5L 2nd Gen RDX).
I had to learn to drive the 2.3T sh-awd RDX differently in the curves compared to the fwd 06 TSX. I had to learn to down shift to engine brake, spool up the turbo, and use the throttle to engage the sh-awd tq vectoring to rotate the rear to get maximum "hammering". My RDX would do 20-25 mph above whatever the posted 90-270 degree exit ramps speed. Sh-awd does an excellent job of leveling out and rotating the rear for more secure handling under power when the road gets curvy or up mountain switchbacks. A sporty SUV/CUV can be just another top heavy vehicle if you drive it into the curves like a fwd sedan without engine power, no sh-awd, and riding the brakes. That is where the Progress RSB and Eibach lowering springs came in to improve the handling down the mountain switchback when you are off power.
The Sport Hybrid RLX/MDX/NSX are the only vehicles that had full time tq vectoring with regen braking with or without engine power. You could tq vector with the rear outside wheel and regen brake with the inside rear wheel for tighter turns on or off engine power with the the Sport Hybrid system.
I had to learn to drive the 2.3T sh-awd RDX differently in the curves compared to the fwd 06 TSX. I had to learn to down shift to engine brake, spool up the turbo, and use the throttle to engage the sh-awd tq vectoring to rotate the rear to get maximum "hammering". My RDX would do 20-25 mph above whatever the posted 90-270 degree exit ramps speed. Sh-awd does an excellent job of leveling out and rotating the rear for more secure handling under power when the road gets curvy or up mountain switchbacks. A sporty SUV/CUV can be just another top heavy vehicle if you drive it into the curves like a fwd sedan without engine power, no sh-awd, and riding the brakes. That is where the Progress RSB and Eibach lowering springs came in to improve the handling down the mountain switchback when you are off power.
The Sport Hybrid RLX/MDX/NSX are the only vehicles that had full time tq vectoring with regen braking with or without engine power. You could tq vector with the rear outside wheel and regen brake with the inside rear wheel for tighter turns on or off engine power with the the Sport Hybrid system.
If the 3G RDX fixed that issue (Not sure as the one I test drove last summer I didn't really push very hard) then I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be easily rolling over in turns.
I generally find anything that can do 0-60 in under 7 seconds to be "quick enough" and the RDX falls under this BUT I wouldn't say no to another 60-100hp. Around the city it serves no purpose but when I floor it at 100kph I would definitely get value out of it.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
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mrgold35 (08-15-2023)
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I generally find anything that can do 0-60 in under 7 seconds to be "quick enough" and the RDX falls under this BUT I wouldn't say no to another 60-100hp. Around the city it serves no purpose but when I floor it at 100kph I would definitely get value out of it.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
All that said, I do find high powered SUVs to be pretty silly - they strike me as borderline dangerous.
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mrgold35 (08-15-2023)
#10
Thanks for all the responses. It's nice to see all the feedback as well as the community's unique perspective. My RDX is the sh-awd model. To me I feel it handles really well and it's a very practical vehicle. The 360 camera is really nice. Honestly, I'm not sure it I can drive another vehicle without one. I think it is only a matter of time that I get it tuned as I'm sure I won't be able to resist.
#11
mrgold35
Thanks for all the responses. It's nice to see all the feedback as well as the community's unique perspective. My RDX is the sh-awd model. To me I feel it handles really well and it's a very practical vehicle. The 360 camera is really nice. Honestly, I'm not sure it I can drive another vehicle without one. I think it is only a matter of time that I get it tuned as I'm sure I won't be able to resist.
Another big bonus with the engine mods was the RDX felt waaaay easier to drive in normal situations. I didn't have to push it as hard like before to achieve the same level of performance with the mods added (like going from a pedal bike to an ebike feeling).
#12
Good post. I have a 2012 TL Manual that flies but honestly I don't really push it hard. It's nice to know it CAN do it. I am looking at an RDX because I want a fast-ish SUV that has more space than my TL and that my wife could drive too when needed. My neighbor has an electric Mustang SUV (looks like a wagon to me but I believe it is categorized as an SUV) and it would smoke any car that Acura has 0-60 (minus the NSX) and be dead silent while doing it. 3.2 seconds I believe to 60. Is it needed ? Not really. It is thrilling the first time I drove with him (knocked my sun glasses off the top of my head...lol) , but other than that, its just not that useful.
#13
Burning Brakes
Good post. I have a 2012 TL Manual that flies but honestly I don't really push it hard. It's nice to know it CAN do it. I am looking at an RDX because I want a fast-ish SUV that has more space than my TL and that my wife could drive too when needed. My neighbor has an electric Mustang SUV (looks like a wagon to me but I believe it is categorized as an SUV) and it would smoke any car that Acura has 0-60 (minus the NSX) and be dead silent while doing it. 3.2 seconds I believe to 60. Is it needed ? Not really. It is thrilling the first time I drove with him (knocked my sun glasses off the top of my head...lol) , but other than that, it’s just not that useful.
Buy what you like - there will always be something better and faster.
#14
Exactly. I just want a car fast enough to pass in traffic and pull out with authority. I think the RDX fits that criteria and has enough creature comforts and looks to keep me happy. My neighbors Mustang is super fast and all, but I don't care for the looks or interior of it. It comes off as cold and futuristic, but not in a good way.
But it IS super duper fast so I guess that matters to someone more than me.
But it IS super duper fast so I guess that matters to someone more than me.
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