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Originally Posted by First Acura RDX
(Post 16260946)
Thankyou for all the advice! Here what i just found. I tried Costco over the weekend and got a message that there were no dealers in my area offering any discounts at this time. Someone else (in another state) got the same message. It might be different in your area; however, the general consensus is that it’s just too early for this new model. Please keep us posted as you search and find :). |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16260934)
Is it just me or does anyone else think it’s bs when they tell you, “you have to put a 500 deposit to lock in the price” then when you say no they start dropping the deposit and find ways to get something out of you.. |
Originally Posted by DWG
(Post 16261035)
Asking for a deposit is a way to try to get you to feel as though you have decided to purchase that car. It's a little trick to try to get your subconscious to say "Hey, I gave them money, so I guess I'm buying it."
Many consumers are under the false impression that there is a law which entitles them to a refund for a car deposit if they choose not to buy the car. There is no such law. Car deposits are non-refundable, unless the contract or sales receipt specifically contains a refund policy. Before signing on the dotted line or making a deposit, inquire what the dealership's policy is. If the contract does not contain a refund policy on car deposits, you may request one be written in the contract, or be written on an addendum attached to the contract. |
Originally Posted by birdonamission
(Post 16260783)
I just looked at my '17's sales contract and the "Freight Charge" line item says "N/A" -- but who's to say they didn't just take the cost of shipping the car and padding it into the sales price...just not calling it "freight charge?" I seem to remember my questioning why it says "N/A," but don't remember the explanation.
Several things I've read say that that cost is always passed on to the customer. TrueCar: "When you buy a new car, you should expect to pay a destination or freight fee. This is what the manufacturer charges the dealer to ship a new car onto the dealership lot. This is a fixed cost for the dealer and is always passed on to the customer." Autotrader: "Let's get the bad news out of the way first: That destination charge listed on every new car's window sticker is something you'll have to pay. According to U.S. law, car delivery -- transporting the vehicle from port or assembly plant to dealer showroom -- is always listed as a separate line item on a new-car window sticker. Automakers may use different names to describe it, but it always works the same way, with buyers covering the cost." KBB: "The fee is usually in the neighborhood of $400 — $800 per vehicle and no amount of negotiating will make it go away." KBB (same article): "It's Government Mandated. The destination fee should be regarded as yet another cost of doing new car business. There are several other fees that manufacturers must bake into the price of their new cars and trucks, but the U.S. government has required this fee be itemized on the sticker based on the fact that it is a direct cost, above and beyond the 'overhead' companies must incur in bringing a product to market." Interpret all this as you wish... The dealers have to pay that to Acura. So for anyone here to say they didn't have to pay it....they just don't understand. It is on the Purchase Order.....WITHIN the "Price of the Vehicle." Because it IS part of the MSRP on the bottom of the Window Sticker....the total price of this vehicle! |
Originally Posted by Colorado Guy AF Ret.
(Post 16261100)
This is not brain surgery! Delivery Dest. Fees ARE part of the MSRP of the vehicle. IT'S NOT NEGOTIABLE! The total price of the car is negotiable, but, in that price IS the Delivery Fee of $995 in the case of the RDX.
The dealers have to pay that to Acura. So for anyone here to say they didn't have to pay it....they just don't understand. It is on the Purchase Order.....WITHIN the "Price of the Vehicle." Because it IS part of the MSRP on the bottom of the Window Sticker....the total price of this vehicle! |
Originally Posted by DWG
(Post 16261035)
Asking for a deposit is a way to try to get you to feel as though you have decided to purchase that car. It's a little trick to try to get your subconscious to say "Hey, I gave them money, so I guess I'm buying it."
so after fighting and fighting and getting dealers to bid my final out the door price is 49600 at s better dealership not bad? For an awd advance 2019 rdx |
Originally Posted by birdonamission
(Post 16261109)
Looking over both shoulders to see if anyone's behind him...simultaneously saying silently to himself, "Is he talking to me?"
We good? LOL!! Best wishes! |
Originally Posted by Colorado Guy AF Ret.
(Post 16261126)
Not directed at you. Just adding to what the whole "issue" has been talked about....no offense....sorry! Your quotes from all the "buying" guides was good. It's just the truth....that's why I responded.
We good? LOL!! Best wishes! |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16261124)
yeah I figured that :( so after fighting and fighting and getting dealers to bid my final out the door price is 49600 at s better dealership not bad? For an awd advance 2019 rdx |
Originally Posted by birdonamission
(Post 16261134)
Do you mind breaking down that down a little. It's OK if you don't want to... To me, the "walk out the door" price does NOT include trade or cash or both -- so without a bit more information, it's hard to tell how good that is..
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
(Post 16261140)
you could be in Oregon and pay no sales tax or in Washington and pay almost 9%. So the break out really matters. Here's my example scenario on a Fathom Blue Pearl Advance SH-AWD: $47,400.00 (MSRP) -$1,000.00 (Acura Loyalty discount) -$750.00 (Military [Veteran] discount) = $45,650.00 (final "out the door" offer) +$2,739.00 (Maryland sales tax) +$2,0000.00 (Accessories) -$28,500.00 (Trade-In) -$15,000.00 (Down payment) = $6,889.00 (Remainder to finance?) This is before any negotiating down from MSRP or other possible incentives by the time I'm ready to go. Of course, the trade-in value I stated is an informed estimate. I also forgot whether MD sales tax is applied AFTER you subtract the trade-in. . |
One Dallas dealer is charging full MSRP plus $1,000 "market adjustment". Doc prep fee=$150, window tint=$359, N2 filled tires=$224, wheel locks and window etching=$359. Take a hike sir! 2019 RDX Advance FWD.
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Originally Posted by MarineOne
(Post 16261313)
...N2 filled tires=$224...
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Originally Posted by MarineOne
(Post 16261313)
One Dallas dealer is charging full MSRP plus $1,000 "market adjustment". Doc prep fee=$150, window tint=$359, N2 filled tires=$224, wheel locks and window etching=$359. Take a hike sir! 2019 RDX Advance FWD.
The N2 price was a joke and they didn't hesitate taking it off. The pre delivery check made me wonder what they actually did as the tires were at 41psi. |
This is what I got from Sam’s TrueCar. Market adjustment a additional accessories. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...499078575.jpeg |
Originally Posted by birdonamission
(Post 16261134)
Do you mind breaking down that down a little. It's OK if you don't want to... To me, the "walk out the door" price does NOT include trade or cash or both -- so without a bit more information, it's hard to tell how good that is..
Documentation Fee $499.00 New Jersey Sales Tax $3112.29 NJ Luxury Tax $185.91 NJ DMV $401.00 NJ Tire Tax $7.50 Out the Door $50,684.70 (adjusted to 49,600) so that’s what they gave me but another dealership took a 1000 off the outdoor price going into the dealership tomorrow. And then suddenly my wife asks if we should lease and get the new mdx after 3 years... wow lol |
Originally Posted by birdonamission
(Post 16261160)
Agree. And, honestly, if a down payment and trade-in is already factored in and you still end up only $400 south of $50K...woo, sounds kinda rough to me.
Here's my example scenario on a Fathom Blue Pearl Advance SH-AWD: $47,400.00 (MSRP) -$1,000.00 (Acura Loyalty discount) -$750.00 (Military [Veteran] discount) = $45,650.00 (final "out the door" offer) +$2,739.00 (Maryland sales tax) +$2,0000.00 (Accessories) -$28,500.00 (Trade-In) -$15,000.00 (Down payment) = $6,889.00 (Remainder to finance?) This is before any negotiating down from MSRP or other possible incentives by the time I'm ready to go. Of course, the trade-in value I stated is an informed estimate. I also forgot whether MD sales tax is applied AFTER you subtract the trade-in. . thats without any down payments its just straight up out the door. Haha yeah 50 is hard to swallow |
NJ Luxury Tax $185.91?
I don't think that actually exists. :bs: I got better offers from both Park Ave Acura in Maywood/Rochelle Park and from Ramsey Acura in Ramsey if you're willing to go further north. I bought from Park Ave because I always buy and service there. They don't play games with add-ons. |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16261373)
Selling Price $46,479.00 Documentation Fee $499.00 New Jersey Sales Tax $3112.29 NJ Luxury Tax $185.91 NJ DMV $401.00 NJ Tire Tax $7.50 Out the Door $50,684.70 (adjusted to 49,600) so that’s what they gave me but another dealership took a 1000 off the outdoor price going into the dealership tomorrow. And then suddenly my wife asks if we should lease and get the new mdx after 3 years... wow lol Still, I can understand your wife's thought process...lol. Although, personally, I've sworn off leases. Not my cup of tea, but it works for many people... :) |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16261374)
No No thats without any down payments its just straight up out the door. Haha yeah 50 is hard to swallow |
Originally Posted by catbert430
(Post 16261380)
NJ Luxury Tax $185.91?
I don't think that actually exists. :bs: I got better offers from both Park Ave Acura in Maywood/Rochelle Park and from Ramsey Acura in Ramsey if you're willing to go further north. I bought from Park Ave because I always buy and service there. They don't play games with add-ons. |
Originally Posted by catbert430
(Post 16261380)
NJ Luxury Tax $185.91?
I don't think that actually exists. :bs: I got better offers from both Park Ave Acura in Maywood/Rochelle Park and from Ramsey Acura in Ramsey if you're willing to go further north. I bought from Park Ave because I always buy and service there. They don't play games with add-ons. |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16261395)
oh shoot I’m super close to Ramsey! Who did you talk to? |
Originally Posted by Aaron Kim
(Post 16261397)
Would you mind sharing how much you got yours for? Thank you I got the SH-AWD Tech model; not Advance. Sticker was $43,895. Got $1,000 loyalty even though I was paying cash instead of financing. They took off an extra $500 and gave me an extra $1,000 on trade. It ended up being $24,171 out the door. If you add back the $20,000 trade-in and $1,325 tax, it would be $45,496 out the door. Add $4,900 + tax for Advance and you're looking at over $50K. Probably you can do better. That was the first week on sale and they had a ton of 2018s left. Most of those are gone now. |
Originally Posted by TxLady
(Post 16260968)
I tried Costco over the weekend and got a message that there were no dealers in my area offering any discounts at this time. Someone else (in another state) got the same message. It might be different in your area; however, the general consensus is that it’s just too early for this new model. Please keep us posted as you search and find :). |
Originally Posted by catbert430
(Post 16261415)
I had a trade in which became a factor in the cost and tax.
I got the SH-AWD Tech model; not Advance. Sticker was $43,895. Got $1,000 loyalty even though I was paying cash instead of financing. They took off an extra $500 and gave me an extra $1,000 on trade. It ended up being $24,171 out the door. If you add back the $20,000 trade-in and $1,325 tax, it would be $45,496 out the door. Add $4,900 + tax for Advance and you're looking at over $50K. Probably you can do better. That was the first week on sale and they had a ton of 2018s left. Most of those are gone now. Wait the price I got for was the advanced I’m gonna squeeze them for like remote start and some goodies like mats and stuff ha ha thann you sir |
The NJ luxury tax is a thing. Luxury & Fuel Inefficient Vehicle SurchargeEffective July 15, 2006, new car dealerships are responsible for collecting a 0.4% surcharge on the new sale or lease of vehicles priced $45,000 or greater or on vehicles having an EPA rating of less than 19 miles per gallon. Payment of the surcharge which is due on the 20th of the month following each quarter, will be paid online. The first filing will be in October, 2006 for the third quarter.If you have any other questions regarding the surcharge and the issuance of vehicle titles in New Jersey, please contact the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission for additional information. https://www.nj.gov/treasury/revenue/njbgs/luxvehs.shtml |
[QUOTE=Madd Dog;16261452] The NJ luxury tax is a thing. [/QUO]Haha yeah as crazy as it is it definitely is a thing https://www.nj.gov/treasury/revenue/njbgs/luxvehs.shtml |
Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
(Post 16259300)
Depends on your location. Costco pricing on the 2019 has been available for me for a couple weeks already.
Yep, At least for the time being. USAA- same thing. Hopefully, in a few months, it will be a different story. The 2018’s are selling...there’s just lots of them. |
Originally Posted by Madd Dog
(Post 16261452)
The NJ luxury tax is a thing. https://www.nj.gov/treasury/revenue/njbgs/luxvehs.shtml |
Originally Posted by Madd Dog
(Post 16261452)
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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...69d153eb3.jpeg What could possibly be the other upfront charge of 1099.85? So these numbers look good? |
Yesterday I got a call from a local dealer that I had purchased from previously saying they would give me the money I was asking for on my trade and the discount we discussed. So he sent me an email with the numbers as we agreed and I purchased. My 2014 RDX was getting high in mileage and I wanted to avoid the hit when you get to 100K in mileage. Regarding the discount we didn't really discuss what was being offered but he just agreed to give me the $2500 discount after I had requested the $3K initially. Since I had a trade it makes my deal more difficult for me and I am sure if I had waited until Nov/Dec I could have saved money on the car price but not the trade. I would have been over the $100K mile mark and this is why I rushed to purchase this car now.
2019 RDX Advance FWD - Gunmetal Metallic / Ebony Interior MSRP: $46,395.00 Purchase Price $43,895.00 Discount $2500 ( Likely includes the usual $1000, $750 military discount and any other crap they wanted to offer.) Trade: $15,000 (2014 RDX Tech) Registration:$263.72 Taxes: $1805.94 DOC Fees $199 Title $69.72 Cargo Cover = Included Folding Cargo Tray = Included |
Originally Posted by Hou-RL
(Post 16262394)
Yesterday I got a call from a local dealer that I had purchased from previously saying they would give me the money I was asking for on my trade and the discount we discussed. So he sent me an email with the numbers as we agreed and I purchased. My 2014 RDX was getting high in mileage and I wanted to avoid the hit when you get to 100K in mileage. Regarding the discount we didn't really discuss what was being offered but he just agreed to give me the $2500 discount after I had requested the $3K initially. Since I had a trade it makes my deal more difficult for me and I am sure if I had waited until Nov/Dec I could have saved money on the car price but not the trade. I would have been over the $100K mile mark and this is why I rushed to purchase this car now.
2019 RDX Advance FWD - Gunmetal Metallic / Ebony Interior MSRP: $46,395.00 Purchase Price $43,895.00 Discount $2500 ( Likely includes the usual $1000, $750 military discount and any other crap they wanted to offer.) Trade: $15,000 (2014 RDX Tech) Registration:$263.72 Taxes: $1805.94 DOC Fees $199 Title $69.72 Cargo Cover = Included Folding Cargo Tray = Included |
Originally Posted by Hou-RL
(Post 16262394)
Yesterday I got a call from a local dealer that I had purchased from previously saying they would give me the money I was asking for on my trade and the discount we discussed. So he sent me an email with the numbers as we agreed and I purchased. My 2014 RDX was getting high in mileage and I wanted to avoid the hit when you get to 100K in mileage. Regarding the discount we didn't really discuss what was being offered but he just agreed to give me the $2500 discount after I had requested the $3K initially. Since I had a trade it makes my deal more difficult for me and I am sure if I had waited until Nov/Dec I could have saved money on the car price but not the trade. I would have been over the $100K mile mark and this is why I rushed to purchase this car now.
2019 RDX Advance FWD - Gunmetal Metallic / Ebony Interior MSRP: $46,395.00 Purchase Price $43,895.00 Discount $2500 ( Likely includes the usual $1000, $750 military discount and any other crap they wanted to offer.) Trade: $15,000 (2014 RDX Tech) Registration:$263.72 Taxes: $1805.94 DOC Fees $199 Title $69.72 Cargo Cover = Included Folding Cargo Tray = Included Hi Hou-RL. Congratulations on your new wheels! When do you take delivery? |
Originally Posted by Stew4HD
(Post 16262399)
I am guessing that it wasn't Sterling McCall?
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Originally Posted by TxLady
(Post 16262403)
Hi Hou-RL. Congratulations on your new wheels! When do you take delivery? |
Originally Posted by Hou-RL
(Post 16262415)
I drove it home as the car had just came in when he called me. He called around noon and I went over at 6 PM to give them time to get it ready. I was out the door exactly at 7:12 PM.
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Originally Posted by Hou-RL
(Post 16262394)
Yesterday I got a call from a local dealer that I had purchased from previously saying they would give me the money I was asking for on my trade and the discount we discussed. So he sent me an email with the numbers as we agreed and I purchased. My 2014 RDX was getting high in mileage and I wanted to avoid the hit when you get to 100K in mileage. Regarding the discount we didn't really discuss what was being offered but he just agreed to give me the $2500 discount after I had requested the $3K initially. Since I had a trade it makes my deal more difficult for me and I am sure if I had waited until Nov/Dec I could have saved money on the car price but not the trade. I would have been over the $100K mile mark and this is why I rushed to purchase this car now.
2019 RDX Advance FWD - Gunmetal Metallic / Ebony Interior MSRP: $46,395.00 Purchase Price $43,895.00 Discount $2500 ( Likely includes the usual $1000, $750 military discount and any other crap they wanted to offer.) Trade: $15,000 (2014 RDX Tech) Registration:$263.72 Taxes: $1805.94 DOC Fees $199 Title $69.72 Cargo Cover = Included Folding Cargo Tray = Included |
Originally Posted by skarface
(Post 16262437)
How many miles were on the 2014 RDX Tech you traded in? Looks like a good deal!
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