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Old 02-25-2020 | 08:25 AM
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Are you guys putting premium gas or regular gas on your RDX? I was told by dealership is safe to put regular gas but just to be safe. Since is using Honda engine I'm assuming is fine. And also i'm planning to have all my oil change done at Honda dealerships for full syn oil change more affordable.
Old 02-25-2020 | 08:42 AM
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Well covered topic...

https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...x-gasp-976228/
Old 02-25-2020 | 04:08 PM
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Regular

70cents per gallon less
Old 02-25-2020 | 05:18 PM
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Regular gas works for me.
Old 02-25-2020 | 07:03 PM
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$2.35 vs $2.99 for maybe, maybe, a 10% improvement in mpg, and no noticeable difference in power. Admittedly, I do not always have my foot on the floorboards, but if I did, at the track, I might notice a power difference. But on the street? No difference that I can see.
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Sunoco or Wawa straight 87 swill. I think the dealer had Lukoil 87.
Old 02-26-2020 | 01:27 PM
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I guess ill go for premium for few months then go regular since is a new car. Another question where do yall go for oil change and how much cost usually for Full Syn.
Old 02-26-2020 | 01:55 PM
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[QUOTE=fogdoctor;16542601]Sunoco or Wawa straight 87 swill. I think the dealer had Lukoil 87.[/QUOTE

More important that premium vs regular is whether you are using a Top Tier gas which is recommended by the car manufacturers. Top Tier gas has higher level of detergents and Consumer Reports confirmed that it keeps valves cleaner. Normally the main brands (Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP etc) supply Top Tier gas. The no name gas stations (like Wawa) do not have Top Tier gas though Costco does.. Here's a link from Acura about it. https://www.acura.ca/owners/top-tier-gas
Old 02-26-2020 | 02:30 PM
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More important that premium vs regular is whether you are using a Top Tier gas which is recommended by the car manufacturers. Top Tier gas has higher level of detergents and Consumer Reports confirmed that it keeps valves cleaner. Normally the main brands (Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP etc) supply Top Tier gas. The no name gas stations (like Wawa) do not have Top Tier gas though Costco does.. Here's a link from Acura about it. https://www.acura.ca/owners/top-tier-gas
Wawa used to get their gas from Sunoco but I think it is Chevron or Valero now. Regardless, I'm not worried about putting it in every 3rd tank, or when I get a meatball hoagie. Most of the time I fill at Sunoco because my old Civic ran well no it and it's the closest top tier to my house.
Old 02-26-2020 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kenRDX2019
I guess ill go for premium for few months then go regular since is a new car. Another question where do yall go for oil change and how much cost usually for Full Syn.
I'm going to the dealer when it get 10-15% oil life remaining. About $80 for the 0-20 synth in the Philly area.
Old 02-26-2020 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mcpagano

More important that premium vs regular is whether you are using a Top Tier gas which is recommended by the car manufacturers. Top Tier gas has higher level of detergents and Consumer Reports confirmed that it keeps valves cleaner. Normally the main brands (Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP etc) supply Top Tier gas. The no name gas stations (like Wawa) do not have Top Tier gas though Costco does.. Here's a link from Acura about it. https://www.acura.ca/owners/top-tier-gas
Meh. I've seen that "study." My GTO ran exclusively on the most unbranded fuel that was formulated in some guy's basement. Of the gas stations we own, the unbranded stuff is usually a pretty decent amount cheaper, since the branded stations generally have higher prices and/or work simply off commission. Pulled the heads off ~40k miles after being supercharged for ~20k miles (see: richer AFR @ WOT [ie: more fuel]) and the valves were pristine relatively speaking. Not any amount of carbon "build-up," just your typical darkening. If it's convenient or it makes you feel warm and cozy inside, go for it ... but the whole "top tier" gasoline thing is blown out of proportion IMO.
Old 02-26-2020 | 04:42 PM
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I've been using Honda for oil changes so they are happy to do basic service as it's more convenient for me , at least. Also, I've been buying Top Tier Premium gas as suggested. Although Regular gas is an option, it could create issues with the engine over time, depending on how you drive. I figure if anyone can afford this vehicle, the cost of Premium gas shouldn't be a concern. Good luck in your choices.
Old 02-26-2020 | 04:53 PM
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I used premium exclusively in my 535, since that was what was called for. Premium is only recommended, and regular is what is recommended using this engine and transmission in the Accord. I have used both, and the benefits of premium was only a slight improvement in mpg. It might be a bigger improvement if I lived in the 4K rev range, but I don’t.
Old 02-26-2020 | 09:01 PM
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For years I gassed up at BP (and before that, Amoco) because my Subaru was extremely sensitive to poor gas. Even Mobil gave my Subaru problems. As a result, I've never had a fuel related problem in any car. All my cars took regular.

A couple years ago a Speedway station opened just a block away from the BP station. Their 93 is currently 10 cents cheaper than BP's 87 and 80 cents cheaper than BP's 93. I'd have to be stupid. And supposedly, Speedway is top tier.

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Old 02-27-2020 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NooYawkuh
For years I gassed up at BP (and before that, Amoco) because my Subaru was extremely sensitive to poor gas. Even Mobil gave my Subaru problems. As a result, I've never had a fuel related problem in any car. All my cars took regular.

A couple years ago a Speedway station opened just a block away from the BP station. Their 93 is currently 10 cents cheaper than BP's 87 and 80 cents cheaper than BP's 93. I'd have to be stupid. And supposedly, Speedway is top tier.
My old Subaru was also sensitive to different brands of gas and, similar your yours, Mobil gas resulted in audible knocking. BP worked well in that car and so did Wawa gas. Although, that was early through mid 2000s so Wawa gas was probably Sunoco at the time.
Old 02-27-2020 | 05:52 AM
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Premium here... mostly because it’s around 25-30c more at Costco. If I had to pay 70c more, would probably use regular.
Old 02-27-2020 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NooYawkuh
For years I gassed up at BP (and before that, Amoco) because my Subaru was extremely sensitive to poor gas. Even Mobil gave my Subaru problems. As a result, I've never had a fuel related problem in any car. All my cars took regular.

A couple years ago a Speedway station opened just a block away from the BP station. Their 93 is currently 10 cents cheaper than BP's 87 and 80 cents cheaper than BP's 93. I'd have to be stupid. And supposedly, Speedway is top tier.

Speedway is not listed as Top Tier.

https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
Old 02-27-2020 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Speedway is not listed as Top Tier.

https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/

Well, they claim they are "licensed". They could be lying but so could anybody. That's why I said "supposedly".

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Old 02-27-2020 | 01:38 PM
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Well, they claim they are "licensed". They could be lying but so could anybody. That's why I said "supposedly".
They don’t show up on the Top Tier site, so we do have an unresolved situation. I would lean in favor of them being a licensee, since they came right out and said it.
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They don’t show up on the Top Tier site, so we do have an unresolved situation. I would lean in favor of them being a licensee, since they came right out and said it.
I don't know if there's any way to know definitively but it says so on the internet so it must be true.
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Originally Posted by NooYawkuh
I don't know if there's any way to know definitively but it says so on the internet so it must be true.
The downside risk for asserting a license is greater than the downside risk of not keeping your list up to date. That is why I lean toward accepting what Speedway posted. However, I don’t buy Speedway gas anyhow.

I pretty much limit myself to Shell and Sunoco.

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Old 02-27-2020 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NooYawkuh
Well, they claim they are "licensed". They could be lying but so could anybody. That's why I said "supposedly".
They're owned by Marathon. I wouldn’t sweat it. Then again, I don’t sweat any of it, so I guess take it for what it is, lol. But I’m sure my 600rwHP LS2 just doesn’t build up carbon because it’s archaic technology. VTEC, brahhhh. Super high tech pixie dust needs the toppest of tier gas.
Old 02-28-2020 | 08:48 AM
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On a side note, with the Corona virus recession coming, expect worldwide GDP to crash, as well as gas prices. Asia is shutting down for the next month. Europe may be next. Stock your pantry in case you have to hunker in the bunker.
Old 02-29-2020 | 08:38 AM
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$0.88 difference

gas today at Citgo- 2.11 regular, 2.99 premium.

The old rule thumb is that they stop pumping oil at $50 per barrel. It is now at $45.
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Originally Posted by NooYawkuh
On a side note, with the Corona virus recession coming, expect worldwide GDP to crash, as well as gas prices. Asia is shutting down for the next month. Europe may be next. Stock your pantry in case you have to hunker in the bunker.
What if truckers and refinery workers are sick 😀
Old 03-02-2020 | 11:06 AM
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When cruising at highway speed, regular or premium? I get if you are stuck in downtown traffic, regular is probably fine as you won't notice much if at all differences.
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How much money are you really saving? If the cost was really an issue why not just get a CRV??

If Acura suggests premium why not just use that?
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How much money are you really saving? If the cost was really an issue why not just get a CRV??

If Acura suggests premium why not just use that?
Because throwing money down the drain for no perceivable benefit makes no sense even for those who are wealthy.

As previous poster have mentioned, sometimes the cost difference is 88 cents per gallon. That’s about $15 difference per fill up. If you want to throw $15 down the drain per fill up, be my guest.


Some vehicles like my G37x would actually have issues running regular over premium. The engine would run rough with a significant power decrease. I haven’t seen anything like that happen with the RDX.

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Old 03-02-2020 | 03:35 PM
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Because throwing money down the drain for no perceivable benefit makes no sense even for those who are wealthy.
Well said. I don't consider myself wealthy; however, I have no problem making the payments on my RDX adv. I could certainly afford the $15/tank but why? Over the 7 years I'm planning on keep it, that works out to a fat chunk of cash. Consider that I do about 20-24k miles a year or burn about 1000 gallons of fuel a year: The price difference in the Philly area is 0.80-$1 a gallon or nearly $750-1000 a year or approaching $7000 over the time I will own the RDX.

Even if you did half that and/or the price difference is less extreme - it is still money that is being used for no benefit that can be felt. It runs fine on 87 so I will be running it on 87 and putting the savings away at some nominal interest rate.
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Old 03-02-2020 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lil12002
How much money are you really saving? If the cost was really an issue why not just get a CRV??

If Acura suggests premium why not just use that?
And there it is again. "If you can afford an Acura, you can afford to piss away money on overpriced gas for no good reason."

Some of us are part of the broad middle class who can appreciate what an Acura offers and are willing to pay the premium for it but not the premium on overpriced gas based on an imagined improvement in performance or mileage.
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Old 03-02-2020 | 06:44 PM
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The price delta has been 60-90 cents per gallon for me recently. For little perceived fuel economy gain, and no power gain. It would make zero dent in my monthly expenses, but I am against just wasting money on principle. If I saw a measurable benefit, I would use premium. I have not seen that benefit.

Costwise, for me, it comes to about $40/mo. I would do nothing different, one way or another, if I had 40 bucks more or 40 bucks less each month.



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Old 03-02-2020 | 08:29 PM
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The price delta and how many miles you put a year is also important.
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