https://www.motortrend.com/features-...r-suvs-to-buy/
RDX came in at #3 beaten only by the Corsair at #2 and the crown going to the XC60.

 

Interesting. I’ve read all sorts of reviews that mention the “odd feel” of the RDX brakes. I’m not sure what that means. I find the brakes are great.

 

It’s the soft brakes feel which Acura fixed.

 

Great! After 2 years and so, still running in top 3!

 

I wonder how much Lexus paid them to rank the NX above both the X3 and Q5

 

I wonder what the interior of the Stevie looks like because they used the RDX A-Spec photo instead.

 

I think they still suck. The pedal is long, too soft, inconsistent (difficult to modulate), with limited feel. It's wholly inconsistent with the rest of the input devices on the car and inconsistent with the brand image as a performance brand. It should be a short travel pedal that relies on pressure rather than distance.

I'm not asking for Porsche quality brakes - just something up to the brand image. FWIW, I put Racing Brake rotors and Racing Brake pads on my 2007 TSX and they were terrific - the modulation it offered is what the RDX should offer. I emailed them to ask if they were going to supply pads for the RDX but never heard back.

 

I think they have placed a lot of emphasis on value and comfort vs driving performance (Macan is missing altogether). In those areas, I think NX is better than X3 and Q5.

I noticed that too about the Stelvio. They are also missing the list of pros for the GLC.

 

Common, brakes are good on this car, people are just damn too peaky. I get it when people complain about real issues, this is just complaining. My favorite one about “small washer fluid reservoir”.

 

My brakes feel great. I complained at first that they were too gravy but I’ve gotten used to it.

As for the other cars on the last, most of them just don’t have enough cargo room. Cmon, 16cu for the XC60? That’s nothing! Where’s the U in the SUV?

 

Where are you seeing 16 cubic feet? Volvo says it's 30.8: XC60 Cargo Area Measurements

 

Sorry, 18. That’s what MotorTrend says. US News says 22.

 

I find the storage room is ample in my xc 60 T8.....Prob more usable space in the RDX as its higher in the rear and that space under the floor....but there is some space under the floor on the T8 as well as there is no spare tire. Noit sure why anyone cares about these magazine reviews.....all that matters is that ur happy.

 

I suspect there's some erroneous information these sites are presenting. The XC60 has more room than my V60, which they say is 23 cubic feet. I'm guessing they didn't actually bust out a tape measure to measure the space and are going off of whatever press release they got their hands on.

 

They're still complaining about the touch pad interface? Are WE complaining about it? Can't these rag reviews come up with something new and original to complain about? Enough of that shit already.

 

I saw that early on with iDrive.

Owners learn how to use it, and it is fine. Reviewers hop into a car and want it to work the way they want it to work, and it doesn’t.

Owners only drive, maybe, two or perhaps three different cars over a couple of years, not dozens.

 

I'm not complaining about it, but that doesn't mean that I like it. Basically, I don't use it very much, and every time I do I am frustrated. It's not very intuitive and it's slow to respond. I mostly now just use it for listening to the radio. I tend to use my phone for directions and I have Apple CarPlay disabled.

IMO, they would be much better served by a touchscreen similar to Volvo, JLR, Tesla, and where BMW, Audi, MB are also finally seem to be heading (they all at least have a touch screen + controller, but the 2021 Q5 is touchscreen-only and doesn't have an MMI controller). It's ironic that the cheaper brands like Toyota and Honda have touchscreens, but the higher end Lexus and Acura do not. Touchscreen is the future.

 

The interface is different; different always causes complaints -- especially in limited use. Every new OS or UX is the worst, until it isn't.

As for the brakes, my 2020 is just fine. Firm, normal travel, easy to modulate.

I put minimal value in comparo reviews, as they are rife with personal biases and preferences.

 

Wasn't true for iOS.

I am yet to meet a Tesla owner that doesn't like the UI (but the number of Tesla owners I know is < 10). And I don't think I've seen any professional/amateur reviews complaining about it either.

 

Speaking in absolute terms is always a mistake. [Irony intended] Not "every" -- as in every single one with no exceptions -- OS or UX is panned.

Microsoft rides out the storm with every new update. Android forums are full of hate at every update: for things added or not added. Some people threatened to boycott GM because Corvettes didn't have round taillights. Nearly all early reviews of True Touch (that I read) were critical, but there's not a lot of complaining here - where the UX is used over time and not just over a few hours. With some exceptions, those criticisms fade with time and use. Change often causes knee jerk complaining.

Maybe iOS has a better ongoing design, or maybe users are just more happy with the products as a general rule. The same could be true about Tesla; both brands have a VERY dedicated user base. I don't think iOS and Tesla are typical when the subject is user satisfaction or willingness to accept change..

 

Teslas have a dedicated user base because their owners incorrectly believe that they're smarter than other people because they own a Tesla. They're actually pretty stupid.

 

Oh no! I've been fantasizing about getting a Model Y, just to switch to electric. I was hoping the Ariya would be out sooner, but looks like that won't be out for another 1+ year.

 

Probably depends on their use case. If the employer lets them charge for free and they get some kind of tax incentive and they don't go crazy high-end, it might be kinda smart. I see quite a few Teslas heading down the road toward Epic Systems, and I don't think those guys are all stupid, even if they are computer geeks.

But if they think it's OK to engage "AutoPilot" and go back to watching porn on their phones while the car drives, then they aren't very smart after all.

 

That's actually what I was referring to. There are people who equate "niche" with "smart." That was actually what kept Apple alive before the iPod rescued it. Apple was/is popular in academic circles and it wasn't popular anywhere else. Consequently, everyone thought they were "smart" if they owned a Mac, which is actually pretty stupid. Fast-forward to today and you see the same phenomenon with Teslas, which are this generation's version of the Prius. Everyone talks about them, people think that smart people own them due to the hype, and very few people actually care to own one. While everyone is talking about how amazing they are, thanks to Elon Musk getting billions of dollars of taxpayer money, they've been exploding, catching on fire, driving people directly into trucks, and experiencing massive production problems. If any conventional car manufacturer did that, everyone here would be going to town on them. But since it's Tesla, everyone is like "oh, well, there are some small kinks to work out" while they try to avoid looking at the decapitated driver. Then we go back to ripping on Acura for some 5 mm gap in an A-pillar for five pages.

 

Wow, where to begin. So much opinion as fact. So much broadly generalized bias.

"There are people who equate "niche" with "smart."" - There are people who don't, so what's the point of this?

"Apple was/is popular in academic circles and it wasn't popular anywhere else" - That was true about the internet too. Apple is very popular today across a broad community and that wouldn't be true without a compelling product.

"everyone thought they were "smart" if they owned a Mac" - Really, based on talking to everyone who owned a Mac?

"people think that smart people own them due to the hype" - There are people who don't, so what's the point of this?

"very few people actually care to own one" - Based on talking to everyone, or sales? Fully electric cars are not just going to take over from ICE cars after a 100+ year head start, if at all. But, since we're just guessing what people want, I'm guessing many people do want to own one, just not yet.

"everyone is talking about how amazing they are" - There is no one saying they are not amazing?

"they've been exploding, catching on fire, driving people directly into trucks," - ICE cars do these things every day.

"and experiencing massive production problems" - The long-established manufacturers around today didn't have similar problems early in their existence? What about the recent shitshow launch of the latest gen Explorer from Ford? They had to delay shipments to dealers and send defective cars from Chicago to Michigan for repairs. Ford.

"But since it's Tesla, everyone is like "oh, well, there are some small kinks to work out" - Again, everyone is saying this? No one is hating on Tesla?

There is so much opinion and bias here pretending to be fact that the whole thing needs a disclaimer.

 

If this is the opening argument, I can sense this is going to go downhill pretty quickly.

You seem to be (possible deliberately) misunderstanding what I wrote. When Macs were popular in the academic world, it wasn't because they were superior. It was because academics decided they were going to be "Mac people" and they saw that other academics used Macs. Then, they all decided that they were really smart for using Macs and "the common people" hadn't discovered the secret. The sillier part of that was that many of them were not particularly well-versed in computing, so if you started talking to them about hardware or software you'd get nothing. Apple is popular today, but for most people it's wholly based on a certain design style (i.e., appearance) and has nothing to do with anything else in particular. That's why Apple can get away with releasing 11 generations of the same phone that aren't that different and have long-ago stopped being ground-breaking or innovative and people will still rave about each one.

This is now getting really pathetic, where your only argument is to say that I didn't speak to every person who ever owned a Mac. Did I hit some nerve with you?

There'are people who do, so what's your point?

BTW, I stopped reading your post at this point because it was stupid and said nothing.

 

IIRC, Apple was "smart" from a business sense. Before most normal folks used computers, Apple began supplying Academia with free Macintosh computers. This taught many early computer users to use Macs (which were mostly mouse controlled) . IBM started competing with Macintosh with home computers running Microsoft DOS operating systems, which required a keyboard to operate (before Windows) that were very difficult for home users to navigate. By this time Mac had a foot hold with schools, and (perhaps the beginning of the "smart" tag). Home IBM computers, Personal Computers (the "PC") became more mainstream with Windows and what were called IBM clones...Packard Bell, etc started selling computers with MicroSoft DOS (MS-DOS) DOS = Disk Operating System. When Microsoft released the first viable Windows OS, they were now competing with MACS who had a head start.

So Macs early in schools leads to today's "smart" tag???

I'm not sure what this has to do with Motor Trends top SUVs!

 

Every topic eventually veers to a discussion about Tesla, Apple, and/or Nazis. Call it the modified Elon-Jobs-Godwin Law.

 

Yep, landmines everywhere. And I'm not a fan of any of them..

 

Practically nothing, except what I said originally, which is that, like many Apple users, many Tesla owners think that they're smart simply for owning the product. I wouldn't care at all, other than the massive government subsidies of Tesla, which is also my complaint with the Prius. Anyone can and should drive any car they want for any reason at all, but if I have to help you buy it then it's a sh*t car by definition to me.

 

I was MS-DOS, then Windows 95 when I thought that was better, and my desktop is now the current Widows version.

My iPhone and iPad are Apple, and I am happy with both. I use what I think is best.

I do expect my next car to be electric, and if my Tesla shares keep going up, it might literally be free. For my use, I expect electric will be the way to go for me. At that time, I will check the market, check my checkbook, and decide then.

The way I see it, other than tires, there ain’t that much to wear out on a Tesla, and they keep things current with over the air upgrades. Acura is not doing that well now at all, but Tesla seems to be able to.

 

I generally see people who are driving GM vehicles and I can't help but think they're a little dumber than the rest of us.

 

y'all are great.

 

I’m sure I would get range anxiety with an all electric car.

 

That’s why I went with a PHEV. Enough battery for my commute, but a 16 gallon gas tank for those long trips out in the middle of nowhere.

 

Well the first step to recovery is acknowledging that you have issues and this forum is as good a venue as any.

 

The first step to recovery is selling any GM or Ford product that infests your stable. Then you are guaranteed to have fewer issues.

 

Reductio ad Teslarum..

 

Water always runs to the lowest point.

 

That's rich, shitting on other brands while yours continues to place below average in reliability rankings year after year.
My stable is healthy these days. I put the lame horse down back in 2015. It had far too many ailments to keep around so i put it out of my misery.