Inches from pulling the trigger
#1
Inches from pulling the trigger
Hi All! love this forum - I don’t own an RDX and we’ve been shopping to replace my wife’s ‘15 CRV Touring with something a class higher. I’ve browsed several threads and have an idea of what we are in for as far as potential issues. Looked at Q5 since I drive an A4, but the RDX Is just stunning. We’ve located a few 2019 RDX with Aspec with blue exterior and are ready to pull the trigger on a CPO one.
Is there anything we should be on the lookout for? Are there things that don’t surface during test drive? With the wealth of knowledge from all of you, I’m hoping to avoid any “hidden issues”. Thanks in advance!
Is there anything we should be on the lookout for? Are there things that don’t surface during test drive? With the wealth of knowledge from all of you, I’m hoping to avoid any “hidden issues”. Thanks in advance!
#3
Suzuka Master
Since its CPO 2019, it might have a long list of TSBs that need to be addressed, such as brake noise and Squeaky suspension. They can fix it, but you will need to visit a dealer. Things that others complained about currently have no fix:
1. Hesitation during acceleration
2. limp mode, its a serious issue that can happen. Does not seem to be wide spread, but we dont know all the statistics
read posts, you will see patterns on common issues and if dealer could fix it. Check if you are happy with body panel fitting and alignment. You dont want to go home and look closer and find some gap to be bigger than other and be upset
1. Hesitation during acceleration
2. limp mode, its a serious issue that can happen. Does not seem to be wide spread, but we dont know all the statistics
read posts, you will see patterns on common issues and if dealer could fix it. Check if you are happy with body panel fitting and alignment. You dont want to go home and look closer and find some gap to be bigger than other and be upset
Last edited by russianDude; 07-19-2020 at 04:25 PM.
#5
Since its CPO 2019, it might have a long list of TSBs that need to be addressed, such as brake noise and Squeaky suspension. They can fix it, but you will need to visit a dealer. Things that others complained about currently have no fix:
1. Hesitation during acceleration
2. limp mode, its a serious issue that can happen. Does not seem to be wide spread, but we dont know all the statistics
read posts, you will see patterns on common issues and if dealer could fix it. Check if you are happy with body panel fitting and alignment. You dont want to go home and look closer and find some gap to be bigger than other and be upset
1. Hesitation during acceleration
2. limp mode, its a serious issue that can happen. Does not seem to be wide spread, but we dont know all the statistics
read posts, you will see patterns on common issues and if dealer could fix it. Check if you are happy with body panel fitting and alignment. You dont want to go home and look closer and find some gap to be bigger than other and be upset
the hesitation on acceleration I’m not too worried about as it seems to hunt many turbo cars.
#6
Instructor
Being over 6 feet tall, I can't fit in any of the Audi cars. The RDX interior overall feels much roomier compared to the Q5.
Though Acura has come a long way, I still feel that the German brands have superior infotainment systems and better grasp of luxury details. Granted, the latter is usually a list of expensive optional extras a mile long. I have the RDX advance package and every gadget you expect or could want is included.
If you intend to buy, the Acura's longevity and resale value is hard to beat. You can only lease European luxury cars; by the time you pay one off it is basically worthless, plus the servicing is exorbitantly expensive. In some states, Audi will offer you the option of buying "lease protection", whereby you can exit the lease within 30 days if you are dissatisfied (if only BMW offered that...).
With Acura, I would probably advise you to insist that the dealer give you an actual spare tire set, and make sure that they do all the infotainment software updates before you leave. Some of them require the tech to hard-reset the system by pulling the audio system fuse for 10 minutes.
Though Acura has come a long way, I still feel that the German brands have superior infotainment systems and better grasp of luxury details. Granted, the latter is usually a list of expensive optional extras a mile long. I have the RDX advance package and every gadget you expect or could want is included.
If you intend to buy, the Acura's longevity and resale value is hard to beat. You can only lease European luxury cars; by the time you pay one off it is basically worthless, plus the servicing is exorbitantly expensive. In some states, Audi will offer you the option of buying "lease protection", whereby you can exit the lease within 30 days if you are dissatisfied (if only BMW offered that...).
With Acura, I would probably advise you to insist that the dealer give you an actual spare tire set, and make sure that they do all the infotainment software updates before you leave. Some of them require the tech to hard-reset the system by pulling the audio system fuse for 10 minutes.
Last edited by dblwishbone; 07-19-2020 at 04:40 PM.
#7
Burning Brakes
Have you gotten a quote for a new one? There are a lot of incentives right now for the rdx. Also used car wholesale prices have gone up in the recent months due to a lack of inventory. A new rdx may not be much more than a cpo... Either way welcome to the forum and the rdx is a great choice!
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#8
Have you gotten a quote for a new one? There are a lot of incentives right now for the rdx. Also used car wholesale prices have gone up in the recent months due to a lack of inventory. A new rdx may not be much more than a cpo... Either way welcome to the forum and the rdx is a great choice!
#9
2020 RDX White/Espresso
I will say that though I own a 2020, the problems seem to be the same (unsurprisingly). Make sure the Nav/Infotainment is updated and working properly before buying, since some users have complained that updating causes problems. Also, make sure that that particular VIN isn’t on the recall list. Make sure the rear hatch clearance is good (this is an issue in cold weather) and that overall fit/finish is good all around. Other than that, I can’t recall any consistent issues to be aware of.
#10
I went from a 2012 CR-V to the 2017 CR-V (a major upgrade) but still wanted a RDX. When they brought out the 2019 RDX I waited and got one the end of March 2019 after they had been out for awhile. Its been a very good car which after sixteen months and trips all over the country from oceans to mountains to the desert I love it as much as ever. No real problems other than a very occasional brake squeak which Acura took care of with a smile.
Some her complain about all these issues but honestly I have not see them. I talk to other owners and they feel the same I do...its a nice car. Cars are a person item and you have to find the one that suits what you like and want. Only you can decide if the RDX is right for you. I have no issues with mine. Its got the best sound system I have ever had in a car, the brakes have a great feel and stop the vehicle with authority. The ten speed is loads of fun and it sounds like a race car when you nail it and let her run. As for hesitation, I can make it happen if I want to or prevent it from happening if I want.Its never been an issue to me as I just "drive around it".
Disclaimer: I spent my 40+ year working career in the auto industry both as a young technician and then as a technical expert for then largest auto make in the world. I have literally driven many thousands of cars in my life and have a pretty clear sense of what I like and want in a car. My RDX works fine for me. Others will like different cars. Heck, I have heard people brag their Kia was the best car in the world! (all because they like the radio or something)> Whatever floats your boat! But I would say I would not avoid an RDX out of fear of it being some big lemon, it is not.
Some her complain about all these issues but honestly I have not see them. I talk to other owners and they feel the same I do...its a nice car. Cars are a person item and you have to find the one that suits what you like and want. Only you can decide if the RDX is right for you. I have no issues with mine. Its got the best sound system I have ever had in a car, the brakes have a great feel and stop the vehicle with authority. The ten speed is loads of fun and it sounds like a race car when you nail it and let her run. As for hesitation, I can make it happen if I want to or prevent it from happening if I want.Its never been an issue to me as I just "drive around it".
Disclaimer: I spent my 40+ year working career in the auto industry both as a young technician and then as a technical expert for then largest auto make in the world. I have literally driven many thousands of cars in my life and have a pretty clear sense of what I like and want in a car. My RDX works fine for me. Others will like different cars. Heck, I have heard people brag their Kia was the best car in the world! (all because they like the radio or something)> Whatever floats your boat! But I would say I would not avoid an RDX out of fear of it being some big lemon, it is not.
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#11
I went from a 2012 CR-V to the 2017 CR-V (a major upgrade) but still wanted a RDX. When they brought out the 2019 RDX I waited and got one the end of March 2019 after they had been out for awhile. Its been a very good car which after sixteen months and trips all over the country from oceans to mountains to the desert I love it as much as ever. No real problems other than a very occasional brake squeak which Acura took care of with a smile.
Some her complain about all these issues but honestly I have not see them. I talk to other owners and they feel the same I do...its a nice car. Cars are a person item and you have to find the one that suits what you like and want. Only you can decide if the RDX is right for you. I have no issues with mine. Its got the best sound system I have ever had in a car, the brakes have a great feel and stop the vehicle with authority. The ten speed is loads of fun and it sounds like a race car when you nail it and let her run. As for hesitation, I can make it happen if I want to or prevent it from happening if I want.Its never been an issue to me as I just "drive around it".
Disclaimer: I spent my 40+ year working career in the auto industry both as a young technician and then as a technical expert for then largest auto make in the world. I have literally driven many thousands of cars in my life and have a pretty clear sense of what I like and want in a car. My RDX works fine for me. Others will like different cars. Heck, I have heard people brag their Kia was the best car in the world! (all because they like the radio or something)> Whatever floats your boat! But I would say I would not avoid an RDX out of fear of it being some big lemon, it is not.
Some her complain about all these issues but honestly I have not see them. I talk to other owners and they feel the same I do...its a nice car. Cars are a person item and you have to find the one that suits what you like and want. Only you can decide if the RDX is right for you. I have no issues with mine. Its got the best sound system I have ever had in a car, the brakes have a great feel and stop the vehicle with authority. The ten speed is loads of fun and it sounds like a race car when you nail it and let her run. As for hesitation, I can make it happen if I want to or prevent it from happening if I want.Its never been an issue to me as I just "drive around it".
Disclaimer: I spent my 40+ year working career in the auto industry both as a young technician and then as a technical expert for then largest auto make in the world. I have literally driven many thousands of cars in my life and have a pretty clear sense of what I like and want in a car. My RDX works fine for me. Others will like different cars. Heck, I have heard people brag their Kia was the best car in the world! (all because they like the radio or something)> Whatever floats your boat! But I would say I would not avoid an RDX out of fear of it being some big lemon, it is not.
I will say that though I own a 2020, the problems seem to be the same (unsurprisingly). Make sure the Nav/Infotainment is updated and working properly before buying, since some users have complained that updating causes problems. Also, make sure that that particular VIN isn’t on the recall list. Make sure the rear hatch clearance is good (this is an issue in cold weather) and that overall fit/finish is good all around. Other than that, I can’t recall any consistent issues to be aware of.
Have you gotten a quote for a new one? There are a lot of incentives right now for the rdx. Also used car wholesale prices have gone up in the recent months due to a lack of inventory. A new rdx may not be much more than a cpo... Either way welcome to the forum and the rdx is a great choice!
Being over 6 feet tall, I can't fit in any of the Audi cars. The RDX interior overall feels much roomier compared to the Q5.
Though Acura has come a long way, I still feel that the German brands have superior infotainment systems and better grasp of luxury details. Granted, the latter is usually a list of expensive optional extras a mile long. I have the RDX advance package and every gadget you expect or could want is included.
If you intend to buy, the Acura's longevity and resale value is hard to beat. You can only lease European luxury cars; by the time you pay one off it is basically worthless, plus the servicing is exorbitantly expensive. In some states, Audi will offer you the option of buying "lease protection", whereby you can exit the lease within 30 days if you are dissatisfied (if only BMW offered that...).
With Acura, I would probably advise you to insist that the dealer give you an actual spare tire set, and make sure that they do all the infotainment software updates before you leave. Some of them require the tech to hard-reset the system by pulling the audio system fuse for 10 minutes.
Though Acura has come a long way, I still feel that the German brands have superior infotainment systems and better grasp of luxury details. Granted, the latter is usually a list of expensive optional extras a mile long. I have the RDX advance package and every gadget you expect or could want is included.
If you intend to buy, the Acura's longevity and resale value is hard to beat. You can only lease European luxury cars; by the time you pay one off it is basically worthless, plus the servicing is exorbitantly expensive. In some states, Audi will offer you the option of buying "lease protection", whereby you can exit the lease within 30 days if you are dissatisfied (if only BMW offered that...).
With Acura, I would probably advise you to insist that the dealer give you an actual spare tire set, and make sure that they do all the infotainment software updates before you leave. Some of them require the tech to hard-reset the system by pulling the audio system fuse for 10 minutes.
#13
My last three cars were V6, so I was a little worrying about 4 cylinder engine. They often vibrate al low revolutions and have to get to higher rev for required torque, not to mention lower engine longevity. I was wrong on all accounts - engine doesn't vibrate at all while full torque appears at 1600rpm. Engine longevity is not an issue either, since 10 speed transmission keeps it all the time around (often below) 2000 rpm. Six cylinder honda engine has to get above 4500rpm for max torque. I don't have any issues, other than car not recognizing USB drive from time to time (not playing music). SH-AWD is cool and works fantastic in deep snow or deep sand. I really like touchpad and pushbutton transmission - it is the future. I don't see anything more intuitive in traditional lever that you have to move backwards to go forward and forward to go reverse. Touch pad is a perfect solution and it is intuitive. Perhaps touch display would be faster, but for that display has to be closer, resulting in driver looking away from the road. I also like adjustable headrest and flat floor in the second row, both very rare. Blind zone sensors are positioned inside. I can see them in the corner of my eye without turning head. I admire steering agility. My first impression was that it turns instantly, while other cars I had, do this a small fraction of a second later. It also keeps straight on the highway without need for small corrections - even without lane assist. It is my first "luxury" vehicle, so I cannot really compare to others, but my last three vehicles were not too bad (Two Toyota Avalons and Honda Accord V6). I hope it helps.
#14
Instructor
The latest TTI system version is D1.2.2; you should be able to check it under the Settings->System->About menu.
All versions before D1.2.1 lacked AndroidAuto support and had USB bugs serious enough to render CarPlay unusable. Granted, both CarPlay and AndroidAuto are a bit of a let-down because they want you to do most things through voice command for safety reasons. They are also very oriented around a touch screen, which the Japanese luxury auto makers in general also avoid due to safety.
I too was used to a V6 throttle response, and I definitely agree the engine is more impressive than I expected (that's VTEC for you).
All versions before D1.2.1 lacked AndroidAuto support and had USB bugs serious enough to render CarPlay unusable. Granted, both CarPlay and AndroidAuto are a bit of a let-down because they want you to do most things through voice command for safety reasons. They are also very oriented around a touch screen, which the Japanese luxury auto makers in general also avoid due to safety.
I too was used to a V6 throttle response, and I definitely agree the engine is more impressive than I expected (that's VTEC for you).
Last edited by dblwishbone; 07-21-2020 at 01:14 PM.
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vkamnyev (07-21-2020)
#15
I'm probably a little less enamored with this engine than most. I honestly didn't want a four this time, but I trusted Honda and liked the output and general owner reaction. I certainly am not displeased; it moves two tons very capably. But I do notice the lag and surging and it's often not seamless to me. Plus, mileage is nothing to write home about. This will [almost] definitely be my last four, if I get another straight ICE vehicle. YMMV; Accurate at time of printing.
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vkamnyev (07-21-2020)
#17
Thanks for the feedback everyone- truly great info. Wife and I had an appointment to look at a CPO A Spec last Saturday but the car wasn’t ready yet... almost a week has gone by and the car is still at the “Prep Center” and therefore hasn’t made its way out for pictures. It’s a 2019 with about 10K miles on the clock. The certification report has been issued a week ago. Something seems sketchy about this “prep center”... had to reschedule for this upcoming Saturday.
#18
Suzuka Master
Thanks for the feedback everyone- truly great info. Wife and I had an appointment to look at a CPO A Spec last Saturday but the car wasn’t ready yet... almost a week has gone by and the car is still at the “Prep Center” and therefore hasn’t made its way out for pictures. It’s a 2019 with about 10K miles on the clock. The certification report has been issued a week ago. Something seems sketchy about this “prep center”... had to reschedule for this upcoming Saturday.
#19
#21
Mechanical problems
Family problems
Life changes
Can't afford
Money is spent without concern
Simple buyer remorse
???
#22
Suzuka Master
I’d be very cautious buying used 2019, it could be one of the lemon cars that had tons of issues and somebody just said enough is enough.
#23
the sales person said that the folks that traded it in got the same car but a 2020 due to the better financing options that actually lowered their monthly payment (apparently they even took their WeatherTech floor mats with them). While I don’t know who would just decide to lose all that equity they were building just to save on a monthly payment, I suppose some people shop that way. 2 things could be happening here - the sales person is straight up feeding me a bunch of BS and something is wrong with the car, or they are stating the truth and it’s just taking them awhile to “detail” the car, because you know, Covid?(just trying to give them benefit of a doubt)
#25
with RDX we had number of people on this forum that got fed up with mechanical issues, brake noise, limp mode, suspension squeak, so they sold it after a year.
I’d be very cautious buying used 2019, it could be one of the lemon cars that had tons of issues and somebody just said enough is enough.
I’d be very cautious buying used 2019, it could be one of the lemon cars that had tons of issues and somebody just said enough is enough.
#26
Suzuka Master
when I bought my car, I told them I want new car, period. But they kept asking at least 2 times “if I want to consider used 2019”, until I got angry and told them to stop asking me the same question over again. This show you that their real profits are in used cars, they are less excited to sell a new car because its less profit.
#27
So I’m totally going to explore the New option further. A quick call to another dealership that has what we are looking for and after 5 minutes we could already qualify for 2 rebates or 3K off msrp. I know the wife didn’t want to spend more than 40, but I’m growing more and more skeptical of the CPO we are going to look at... the time it’s spending at the “prep-center” and seeing things like this on Autocheck report.
#28
I got the CPO 2019 Aspec with 10k miles for $35k and it has a better warranty than brand new car. OF course I checked the service records before I got it and it already had all TBS done and car looks like new. Dealer also included all weather floor mats
#29
Suzuka Master
you can get new aspec sh-awd 2020 now for almost 40k. If you think that it was worth saving 5k, than you made a right choice
#30
I wouldn't qualify for most incentives and nobody here in NYC wanted to go anywhere near 40k for apex blue awd aspec..saving 5k and getting longer warranty was a no brainer in my book. Some people have to have brand new car I dont...I spend that saved up $5k on some stocks and already made nice profit
#31
She’s home!
After much contemplation, the wife and I decided to take the plunge to the New instead of the CPO. The new RDX A specs are flying off the lots here in Columbus OH and 2 we had our eye on got sold before we got there (less than 24 hours). We are fortunate to have 2 high volume Acura dealers here within 25 minutes of each other, so we drove over to another and they had a 2020 Performance Red sh-awd with Black interior(the dealer that had that CPO we originally were set on buying). So we pulled the trigger and the wifey is ecstatic! Thanks for all the feedback that was shared and helped us form our decision! Looking forward to being part of this forum.
We also bought the roof rails and racks and have to take the car back to get them installed next week.
We also bought the roof rails and racks and have to take the car back to get them installed next week.
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#32
After much contemplation, the wife and I decided to take the plunge to the New instead of the CPO. The new RDX A specs are flying off the lots here in Columbus OH and 2 we had our eye on got sold before we got there (less than 24 hours). We are fortunate to have 2 high volume Acura dealers here within 25 minutes of each other, so we drove over to another and they had a 2020 Performance Red sh-awd with Black interior(the dealer that had that CPO we originally were set on buying). So we pulled the trigger and the wifey is ecstatic! Thanks for all the feedback that was shared and helped us form our decision! Looking forward to being part of this forum.
We also bought the roof rails and racks and have to take the car back to get them installed next week.
We also bought the roof rails and racks and have to take the car back to get them installed next week.
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DJA123 (07-27-2020)
#35
Instructor
The one thing I keep having to look up is how to put the windshield wipers in maintenance position:1. Set the power mode to VEHICLE OFF.
2. While holding the wiper switch in the MIST position, set the power mode to ON, then to VEHICLE OFF.
The hands free tailgate can also be a problem when loading big things in the back; many times I've had it close on me. You have to either disable it or leave your key fob in the cargo area to prevent it from closing.
2. While holding the wiper switch in the MIST position, set the power mode to ON, then to VEHICLE OFF.
The hands free tailgate can also be a problem when loading big things in the back; many times I've had it close on me. You have to either disable it or leave your key fob in the cargo area to prevent it from closing.
#36
Drifting
The one thing I keep having to look up is how to put the windshield wipers in maintenance position:1. Set the power mode to VEHICLE OFF.
2. While holding the wiper switch in the MIST position, set the power mode to ON, then to VEHICLE OFF.
The hands free tailgate can also be a problem when loading big things in the back; many times I've had it close on me. You have to either disable it or leave your key fob in the cargo area to prevent it from closing.
2. While holding the wiper switch in the MIST position, set the power mode to ON, then to VEHICLE OFF.
The hands free tailgate can also be a problem when loading big things in the back; many times I've had it close on me. You have to either disable it or leave your key fob in the cargo area to prevent it from closing.
I have absolutely NO problem with the hands free tailgate, and I use it multiple times a week, loading and unloading multiple items form the cargo area.
Thank you for posting the wiper maintenance mode instructions, dbl, but I have decided just to never use it. Very stupid, Acura! There must be an engineering reason, but it escapes my feeble mind.
#38
Drifting
I don't know what brand or style the blades are on our new '20 CR-V, but they don't have this maintenance mode. I just pulled them up so I could clean the windshield.
As I think about it. we did have a 2001 Toyota Solara (or was it the 2003 Highlander?) that the wipers partly "hid" just under the hood edge, like these, but all it took, IIRC was a gentle tug upwards, and they easily slipped into a "notch" position so you could pull them away from the glass. And, I could be remembering it all wrong. I just don't get the reasoning for designing them this way.
As I think about it. we did have a 2001 Toyota Solara (or was it the 2003 Highlander?) that the wipers partly "hid" just under the hood edge, like these, but all it took, IIRC was a gentle tug upwards, and they easily slipped into a "notch" position so you could pull them away from the glass. And, I could be remembering it all wrong. I just don't get the reasoning for designing them this way.
#39
Welcome to the club. You chose the best looking trim
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vkamnyev (07-27-2020)
#40
Does any brand do this currently? If not, I'll wager, if anyone, the Koreans will be first to make this a thing.
Last edited by DJA123; 07-27-2020 at 10:49 AM.
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JB in AZ (07-27-2020)