Unobtanium

Typically 15-15.25 gallons. I prefer ethanol free 91 octane from TT certified sources. This results in a typical fill-up cost of $65-67. I average 23.2-24.5mpg so far on my daily commute.

knakane

about 15

anoop

Is this fuelly or some other app?

vvraman

Rule of thumb I use: Start thinking of a place to fill up when the gauge is at 1/4, which typically is checking for a Costco on the route or expected route. Avoid crisis by filling up at the first source regardless of cost if range left is 60 miles when in city, and 90 miles when on a highway.

zinoramirez

fill my tank up when its half.

knakane

@anoop it's called Road Trip MPG

anoop

Today I paid $6.999/gallon, a new ATH for me. Easily hit ~$105 with this fill of 15 gallons.

Acura needs to panic and introduce hybrids throughout their lineup.

anoop

While expensive back then, a $60 fill-up seems so cheap now!

Midwestuser1

The proper & more permanent solution is to FIRE our corrupt politicians that are manipulating gas prices upwards to line their pockets.

joe424242

Hi Guys,

I travelled from 2022 and right now the gas price is over $6 in MIchigan and over $10 in California. I envy you guys so much that your gas price is still so cheap!!!

gordonary

I usually try to fill up by a 1/4 tank or so left, typically around 12-14 gallons. If I was driving in to work 5 days a week I'd be filling up... every 5 days. I don't even care about the gas prices as much as how much below the cars rated mpg I get. 21mpg with 60/40 highway/city is pretty common.

anoop

Today I paid $6.09 down from an ATH of $7.09 just a few weeks ago. Hope this continues.

Texasrdx21

Depends. Typically in town I wait to the "Fuel light" comes on - which is right at 25 miles or below in the range. Still, there is a 1ish gallon buffer in the tank when it says less than 10 miles of range left. However, not wanting to suck some water and dirt at the bottom of the tank - that's when I seek a gas station.

If it's on a road trip - drive for 2-3 hours, get out to fill her up and take a short break. So no anxiety finding a gas station - especially in remote drives across several states in one day (or just the state of Texas which takes all day to cross).

NBPDC505

I'm back under $4 a gallon for premium here in north Atlanta at Costco. Filled up at $3.99/gal yesterday. Around 13 gallons and $52

anoop

Paid $5.90 a gallon at my last fill significantly lower than $7.09 ATH. Yay! Hope it continues.

anoop

And it continues. Paid < $5 a gallon yesterday, total cost to fill near-empty tank (slightly over 15 gallons) was $76.

anoop

Paid $4.999 today at my local gas station. Incidentally, this is the lowest range I have ever had @ 2 miles!

2 miles of range

15.6 gallons without top off.

anoop

Gas prices moved up quite violently where I live. My last fill a few days ago was around $5.50. Today I saw the price was $6.20. Both are prices for premium. Once again nearing $100 fill up. I don’t qualify for EV tax credit and dealers ask too much markup for hybrids so the economics of EVs and hybrids don’t make sense.

Ron_L

My local Costco has unleaded at $3.05 a gallon. Prices are driven by the state, all the taxes etc.

anoop

Has it been moving up? I think our prices had peaked at around $7.10 then fell below $5, but now working its way back up.

Ron_L

You're gonna think I'm odd, but I haven't been to a gas station in almost 2 months. I work from home and don't drive my car very much. It's a 2017 with 40K miles (bought it with 32K almost 3 years ago). Last fill up for me gave me 499 miles to the tank. My wife has yet to take her new to her RDX for a fill up. She'll probably go this week.

anoop

OK. The move up this week was very violent—about a 15% bump in a few days.

NBPDC505

Must be something local to you. My Costco now has premium at $3.92 and regular at $3.39.

Texasrdx21

it will keep going up. OPEC and Russia agreed to keep the reduction of 2mm barrels a day till the end of the year. Electric will increase too. Imagine if we could drill here and be energy independent again!

markm929

Its been 69 years since the US has been "energy independent". Petroleum-based energy alone is not going to get us back to that, unfortunately. We can all dream though.

Texasrdx21

You are incorrect. We were energy independent in 2019. USA has a lot of oil and natural gas. Imagine if we were energy independent today, Petrol prices would be significantly lower. So would electric.

https://www.instituteforenergyresear...me-since-1957/

Legend2TL

No imagining, the US is still energy independent today.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/ex...dent.%E2%80%9D

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/

Baldeagle

According to the EIA, the USA is producing almost as oil right now as we did at the short-lived peak in 2019. In November of 2019, production peaked at 13,000,000 barrels per day. In June of 2023, (latest report), US production was 12,844,000 barrels per day.

Are you suggesting that if the US produced as much oil as it consumed, the USA would set the price of oil in the United States? Meaning if OPEC set the price of oil at $82/barrel and the USA could pull it out of the ground for $60/barrel, American oil refineries would sell gasoline to us based on oil priced at $60/ barrel?

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

Texasrdx21

Exactly. The USA was ramping up production, we could have easily been at the consumption we require today. Not a the whim of what other counties that sell us oil dictate the price structure. Quite possibly we would not of had to dip into the strategic Reserve to hold prices down.

MJ4RDX

If manufacturers (hello Acura!) would offer more hybrids we could cut gas consumption by 30-40%. Most people don't want full electric and if the goal is to reduce emissions this seems like a real easy solution most people would ok with given prices at the pump. 😊

Texasrdx21

Given the fall off in demand for EV (excluding Tesla's), I bet most MFG's are going to rethink their strategy moving forward. Add to that, the infrastructure is not robust enough, and most MFG's are loosing billions on their EV product lines.

Toyota and Hyundai/Kia are coming out with a lot of efficient and powerful hybrid options. One of my friend just got a 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport Touring - build well, and get 38mpg (average) - I'd take 30mpg (average) with a bit more performance than efficiency (which would be a 50% increase from my 20mpg average).

anoop

I doubt they will rethink their strategy because it takes a long time to implement it. The whole point of the EV strategy was to get access to govt. funds and to comply with zero emissions that many cities are enacting for future. With hybrid they don't get that. My guess is we will see both gas (mainstay) and EV (slow) from all manufacturers. Maybe a pivot to PHEV since that does satisfy many of the laws being enacted, but even that is doubtful.

Texasrdx21

PHEV - when The battery is empty, you have to plug in to charge. IMO hybrid is the best middle group, as the battery tech gets better and infrastructure to charge is built out. Look at what happened to the UK, pushed EV’s like the USA - now the “road tax” and electricity to charge have skyrocketed to be more than petrol and diesel. Add to that, China just told Gov. Newsom on his trip there - EV’s are growing, but they are building several more coal electric plants to supply the needed energy.

anoop

I agree 100% hybrid is the best for environment (easy to make a lot of small batteries than a lot of huge ones, keeps air in the low speed zones like cities clean) and for the consumer (spend less on gas). But logical stuff is never implemented. Car makers only build stuff that they can charge the most for. They are coming up with performance variants of gas sedans which no one even cares about these days, but they won't build a hybrid (aside from Toyota which already has the technology).

anoop

Today I paid $5.29 a gallon for premium, the lowest I paid in a long, long time.

It looks like it has to do with something which is not talked about much — the lifting of the anti-smog rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ygcz#xj4y7vzkg

jmhumr

It's already happening. Companies are slowing their roll: https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/10...a-by-mid-2024/

I'm pretty confident that 25 years from now, the current automotive era will be considered a massive misstep of premature EV adoption induced by overzealous governments. Battery tech is still at least a generation behind, but too many people consider "range" and fast charging the only metric of battery maturity. It's not, and we're going to be stuck with a glut of abandoned, unsalvageable, and environmentally unfriendly EV inventory from this mistake. Widespread PHEV adoption through 2035 would have been a more thoughtful goalpost.

FlopMeister

Ok I filled up today after I let the remaining amount go down to 8 miles. It only took 15.15 gallons and now the new remaining miles number is only 278. It’s usually 350 right after fill up. Maybe it’s all the idling I am doing to warm up the car due to it being cold out,?

MJ4RDX

I agree with you that the most practical and impactful move now would be to get behind widespread hybrid implementation across all auto makers to provide the benefits to society and consumers alike. Each individual BEV battery could equal 8-12 hybrids!
Honda has some pretty good hybrid systems. My wife gets over 50 mpg in her Insight. The Accord Hybrid would be my choice if I wanted a sedan. The CRV hybrid would be attractive to me if they put a little more content in the top trim (also sad they offer this content in Europe and also a PHEV CRV). Honda is also basically bring back the Insight with the new Civic hybrid.

Twism86

Nothing wrong with that as long as the conditions for using the winter grade are met. Cali already goes over the top (and into stupid/ridiculous/redundant land) in terms of the environmental regulations, saving people some money is worth lifting the rule.

Texasrdx21

Hybrids are definitely more "green" than a PHEV, but PHEV and full EV get the federal and local rebates - so that will be the spin. Not on impact upfront to make them or disposal of the battery packs in years to com. Hybrids - Much less minerals, smaller battery pack, self charging (no public changing stations, home charging or additional burden on a maxed out electrical grid) and zero range/charging anxiety when taking longer trips.

A friend just got a new Honda CRV Hybrid Sport touring - super nice, almost Acura level of refinement and she get 36.5 avg MPG (where my RDX avg mpg is 21 - CRV Hybrid is 73% better MPG). About the only option that is missing is ventilated seats.