2019 RDX rear window shattering
#81
This is just an issue with tempered glass. Maybe the supplier for Acura is having some issues, maybe not, I do not know, but it's not an RDX issue that you can avoid by simply buying a different vehicle. Let me demonstrate:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1756777
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/re...loded.3050764/
https://fordauthority.com/2017/12/an...ite-no-impact/
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168127
https://www.audiforums.com/forum/aud...ploded-213127/
https://www.myaudiq5.com/threads/201...attered.37562/
https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...red_on_mazda3/
https://only1autoglass.com/Blog/entr...u-need-to-know
This is not Acura. This is not RDX. This is not QA/QC fail during COVID (although the rate may have gone up?). This is quite simply the reality of tempered glass and physics. If you don't like it, don't buy a car. THEY ALL CAN DO IT!
Tempered glass is just what it sounds like: Tempered. The glass goes through an oven. The glass is then cooled. It is heated/cooled at different rates by virtue of its thickness. The outside heating and cooling quicker than the inside. This creates tension within the structure of the glass itself. This lends it to magnificent failures when they DO occur, and is also why it granulates instead of turning into steak knives upon said failure.
My advice? Buy what you like, tint the glass, and motor on. ANY CAR CAN HAVE THIS FAILURE. I have proven that above with a few minutes on Google. I spent longer cutting/pasting than I did finding those links.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1756777
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/re...loded.3050764/
https://fordauthority.com/2017/12/an...ite-no-impact/
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168127
https://www.audiforums.com/forum/aud...ploded-213127/
https://www.myaudiq5.com/threads/201...attered.37562/
https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/comme...red_on_mazda3/
https://only1autoglass.com/Blog/entr...u-need-to-know
This is not Acura. This is not RDX. This is not QA/QC fail during COVID (although the rate may have gone up?). This is quite simply the reality of tempered glass and physics. If you don't like it, don't buy a car. THEY ALL CAN DO IT!
Tempered glass is just what it sounds like: Tempered. The glass goes through an oven. The glass is then cooled. It is heated/cooled at different rates by virtue of its thickness. The outside heating and cooling quicker than the inside. This creates tension within the structure of the glass itself. This lends it to magnificent failures when they DO occur, and is also why it granulates instead of turning into steak knives upon said failure.
My advice? Buy what you like, tint the glass, and motor on. ANY CAR CAN HAVE THIS FAILURE. I have proven that above with a few minutes on Google. I spent longer cutting/pasting than I did finding those links.
#82
I agree, acura should warranty it. However, this isnt new. Not by decades. How long have you stressed?
#83
This is just an issue with tempered glass. Maybe the supplier for Acura is having some issues, maybe not, I do not know, but it's not an RDX issue that you can avoid by simply buying a different vehicle.
This is not Acura. This is not RDX. This is not QA/QC fail during COVID (although the rate may have gone up?). This is quite simply the reality of tempered glass and physics. If you don't like it, don't buy a car. THEY ALL CAN DO IT!
My advice? Buy what you like, tint the glass, and motor on. ANY CAR CAN HAVE THIS FAILURE. I have proven that above with a few minutes on Google. I spent longer cutting/pasting than I did finding those links.
This is not Acura. This is not RDX. This is not QA/QC fail during COVID (although the rate may have gone up?). This is quite simply the reality of tempered glass and physics. If you don't like it, don't buy a car. THEY ALL CAN DO IT!
My advice? Buy what you like, tint the glass, and motor on. ANY CAR CAN HAVE THIS FAILURE. I have proven that above with a few minutes on Google. I spent longer cutting/pasting than I did finding those links.
The problem is that this seems to happen more often than not on this vehicle compared to other models. I’ve been on this forum for a couple years now and have seen this issue pop up over and over again especially on the RDX. I don’t see it happening to the MDX.
#84
I sure am glad I didn't buy a CX5 because of this issue. I was actually strongly tempted to snag a 2022 Signature model until I drove the RDX. The SH-AWD and nicer interior won out over the 5mpg more and simpler ownership experience of the CX5, though.
*Normally I edit plates on other people's vehicles, but this person posted it of their own car in a group with a 17K membership, so that's on them.
That said, I am throwing ceramic tint on every shred of glass in this car. 1) It helps in a wreck or other kinetic event with spalling. I know what glass smells like. I don't like that. 2) It will make clean up so much easier IF this happens.
*Normally I edit plates on other people's vehicles, but this person posted it of their own car in a group with a 17K membership, so that's on them.
That said, I am throwing ceramic tint on every shred of glass in this car. 1) It helps in a wreck or other kinetic event with spalling. I know what glass smells like. I don't like that. 2) It will make clean up so much easier IF this happens.
#85
Happened to my 2016 RDX as well. This was back in 2018. Wife closed the door and glass just caved in. I went to dealer and was told this is the first time they heard of it but could not be covered warranty. I know a glass guy that is replacing the glass at Acura dealers. He said he's been doing quite a few for them even my generation. I tried to reach out to Acura client but they said it's not a recall and couldn't do anything either. They recommend talking directly to dealer.
#87
So, is Acura going to reimburse folks who paid out-of-pocket to replace their rear window because the dealerships/corporate wouldn't fix it under warranty?
#89
Interesting that the TSB only applies to 19 and 20 models, implying a change in 21 and newer models. And my warranty expires in 5 weeks, so we all know when this will happen to my 19.
#90
Ron
#91
Drifting
Glad to hear Acura has figured it out and will be replacing shattered rear window glass. I hope those who have had to pay to get the it replaced have a good chance of reimbursement if they contact Acura. Costs nothing to try.
They say: POSSIBLE CAUSE: Incorrect specification for the rear defroster grid.
Not very specific, is it?
They say: POSSIBLE CAUSE: Incorrect specification for the rear defroster grid.
Not very specific, is it?
Last edited by JB in AZ; 06-11-2022 at 09:18 PM.
#92
Burning Brakes
My concern is if I use the rear defrost is it going to randomly explode one day then? Specifically once I’m out of warranty, sounds like a case for a class action lawsuit
#93
Same thing happen to my RDX. I though it was someone/something hitting the rear glass but nothing was on the security camera then saw this thread and also heard from safelite there are a number of people having the issue. While Acura doesn’t cover it, I also opened a claim with Acura customer relations and they should be looking at the total complains re: window shutters. Call corporate and log in the complain and hope they issue a recall.
My guess is this is the issue with the hatch and there is no guarantee it won’t happen again.
My guess is this is the issue with the hatch and there is no guarantee it won’t happen again.
#94
Cruisin'
My turn!
Closed the driver side rear door, and boom. 🙄 50° outside.
#96
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#97
There’s clearly a defect in a “batch” of rear glass where it slightly expands and then shatters! Yes should be a recall but manufacturers try to avoid large cost like this unless absolutely forced!
#98
Cruisin'
I don't have it anymore but I had a 2022 RDX for a grand total of 8 days before the rear window shattered. Posted in this thread. The car had a January 2022 production date. It's not a batch thing, it's a design issue that affected my 2022. Dealer bought the car back after they couldn't even give me a rental car or an ETA on the replacement rear glass (the dealer was great throughout, none of this was their fault). At least in Canada they're replacing them under warranty. This is unfortunate as it was a great car otherwise.
Last edited by Mike969; 01-12-2023 at 06:35 PM.
#99
Manufacturing defect/issue. Acura replaced mine for free
I only found out about this since glass shops could not readily get the rear window as it was back ordered. I called the dealer and they said my car was the 6th car this happened to that week. They replaced it for free.
#100
Cruisin'
I guess I’m lucky…
So, my window shattered a week ago today. Acura just brought my car back this morning after replacing the left front lower control arm and the rear window glass. They (Honda) covered it.
I guess I’m lucky that it happened after years of this happening to others. I wonder if others can be reimbursed - my dealer said there’s a TSB for the windows failing like they have/are.
I guess I’m lucky that it happened after years of this happening to others. I wonder if others can be reimbursed - my dealer said there’s a TSB for the windows failing like they have/are.
#101
Add me to the list. 2020 a-spec and rear window shattered yesterday.
anyone in Toronto use Acura North Toronto and get it replaced under warranty. Speedy Glass quoted me $840 tax in to replace but I’m going to try to claim under warranty.
My warranty expires in Aug 2023 (4 years) and I’m worried that this may happen again outside of warranty. Will I be screwed or will they still cover it then?
thanks
anyone in Toronto use Acura North Toronto and get it replaced under warranty. Speedy Glass quoted me $840 tax in to replace but I’m going to try to claim under warranty.
My warranty expires in Aug 2023 (4 years) and I’m worried that this may happen again outside of warranty. Will I be screwed or will they still cover it then?
thanks
#102
Cruisin'
Damn
I hate that happened to you. I’m appreciative that American Honda took care of mine. Like you, U am worried it may happen again and I’ll be on the hook for replacing it. Plus, with Honda replacing it, I “know” that it was properly installed/maintained. Actually - my dealer said this was the first they’d heard of it. I wonder if others automatically claimed it on their insurance, because I see these things everywhere here, and can’t imagine no one else has had this seemingly widespread issue.
Safelite tried to sell me on letting them replace the window, but that would have been an insurance claim and a 3rd party piece of glass. On 2nd thought, maybe the 3rd party glass is better-engineered.
It’s crazy how über careful i am closing the doors now. You’d think i had soft-close doors.
Also, I can hear shards of glass rattling when I open/close the hatch now. 🫤
Safelite tried to sell me on letting them replace the window, but that would have been an insurance claim and a 3rd party piece of glass. On 2nd thought, maybe the 3rd party glass is better-engineered.
It’s crazy how über careful i am closing the doors now. You’d think i had soft-close doors.
Also, I can hear shards of glass rattling when I open/close the hatch now. 🫤
Add me to the list. 2020 a-spec and rear window shattered yesterday.
anyone in Toronto use Acura North Toronto and get it replaced under warranty. Speedy Glass quoted me $840 tax in to replace but I’m going to try to claim under warranty.
My warranty expires in Aug 2023 (4 years) and I’m worried that this may happen again outside of warranty. Will I be screwed or will they still cover it then?
thanks
anyone in Toronto use Acura North Toronto and get it replaced under warranty. Speedy Glass quoted me $840 tax in to replace but I’m going to try to claim under warranty.
My warranty expires in Aug 2023 (4 years) and I’m worried that this may happen again outside of warranty. Will I be screwed or will they still cover it then?
thanks
#103
Update. Called Maple Acura and the amazing woman in service asked if I was under warranty and said “no problem, bring it in under warranty!”
Taking it in Monday. She said they need it for 4 hours as they have to vacuum out the glass in the hatch. I asked why they can’t take off the plastic panel and get access to the broken glass and she said that it falls between the steel panels and isn’t accessible.
Any ideas what the recourse is if they can’t get it all out and it rattles around inside? Will Acura replace the entire hatch?
Taking it in Monday. She said they need it for 4 hours as they have to vacuum out the glass in the hatch. I asked why they can’t take off the plastic panel and get access to the broken glass and she said that it falls between the steel panels and isn’t accessible.
Any ideas what the recourse is if they can’t get it all out and it rattles around inside? Will Acura replace the entire hatch?
Last edited by drekman; 02-02-2023 at 09:16 AM.
#104
Drifting
Update. Called Maple Acura and the amazing woman in service asked if I was under warranty and said “no problem, bring it in under warranty!”
Taking it in Monday. She said they need it for 4 hours as they have to vacuum out the glass in the hatch. I asked why they can’t take off the plastic panel and get access to the broken glass and she said that it falls between the steel panels and isn’t accessible.
Any ideas what the recourse is if they can’t get it all out and it rattles around inside? Will Acura replace the entire hatch?
Taking it in Monday. She said they need it for 4 hours as they have to vacuum out the glass in the hatch. I asked why they can’t take off the plastic panel and get access to the broken glass and she said that it falls between the steel panels and isn’t accessible.
Any ideas what the recourse is if they can’t get it all out and it rattles around inside? Will Acura replace the entire hatch?
#106
I guess I'll bring mine in for the TSB. To those have have had this done, did the dealer f*ck up the rear door panel while replacing it? Also, is the rear windshield still on national backorder?
#108
Racer
I wonder if the glass break is related to the misalignment of the rear hatch? I know my 2019 was misaligned and struggled to close until I had the dealer fix it. Given the hatch is a composite and not metal, maybe there was more torque on the glass due to the hatch being misaligned? The misalignment was happening often for a while early on, but maybe QC has dropped and it is happening again.
#109
Suzuka Master
Did your rear glass broke? They won't replace proactively it if its not broken....
#111
I'm confused. The TSB rear windshield glass part number 73211-TJB-A02 is listed on OEMAcuraparts for $235 but there is also a part number 73211-SEP-H10 Rear Windshield Glass for $900
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#114
Has anyone had the windshield shatter OUT OF WARRANTY and had it replaced for free? I had my 2020 A-Spec rear window shatter UNDER WARRANTY and it was replaced without issue. I am buying the car out next month and will no longer have warranty coverage but in my opinion, this should be covered by Acura for the life of the car.
#116
Anyone want to see it actually happen ..... my dash cam caught mine exploding today.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...copi-FySY_H4HD
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...copi-FySY_H4HD
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#118
Retired Geezer
Anyone want to see it actually happen ..... my dash cam caught mine exploding today.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...copi-FySY_H4HD
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...copi-FySY_H4HD
My shattering occurred exactly the same way with the same sound. You’ve nailed it. PTSD inducing.
#119
Never seen anything like it. I thought it happened when I got into the car a few hours later. Had to go through the video to figure out what happened. Was an impressive thud.