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Debating blizzak dm-v2 or x-ice. This is a tirerack 'package' Should I pick a different rim with offset ? or is 43 okay. Does TPMS matter ? aftermarket or acura ? I originally wanted to just swap tires but going to 17 is probably better and cheaper it
In terms of wheel offset, stock is +55, so as close as you can get the better. +45 is probably OK, but anything lower you may notice a different steering (geometry) feel since they'll stick out a bit.
In terms of tires, either is a good choice. The primary difference is that the rubber in the Blizzak is "stickier" for the first 40 percent or so, and then when worn beyond that it's a more traditional type of rubber. With the X-Ice's the rubber is the same throughout the tread dept, which means as they wear the adhesion / feel of the rubber won't change. But, frankly, either will work well and better than stock. My preference is the Michelins between the two you've listed. It's too bad Tire Rack doesn't offer Nokian snows because that'd be the best choice, but without that option Michelin is my choice.
TPMS should be OK thru them. It should (like OEM) automatically get detected by the car after driving a mile or so. Given they're building the whole setup, doing a road-force balance, and shipping to you, I'd have them put the sensors on so you don't have to sweat it.
Overall this is good for a "to your door" full setup. I tend to build my own configuration, but earlier in the season when I have some time. I get tires locally, buy a set of OEM sensors from one of the online Acura parts places, and then try to find take-off Acura/Honda wheels if I can. Although in terms of wheels, the aftermarket ones are OK for the winter - never any issues.
Good luck! If you can get a whole setup shipped now I'd go for it - now that the season's started it's tough finding all the pieces you'd need...
Actually my first question is, will the 17s actually fit? New MDXs come with either 18 or 20 inch rims. Will the 17s allow for clearence around the brake rotors? Minimum I would go with would be 18s. Cost wise that should be nothing. Yes, gomwith Acura TPMS.
I usually buy black steel tires... they dont offer those.. the 17 was their recommend package.. I seen people run 17s on winter. Issue is getting parts.. lots of cheaper rims are all gone.. lol..
In terms of wheel offset, stock is +55, so as close as you can get the better. +45 is probably OK, but anything lower you may notice a different steering (geometry) feel since they'll stick out a bit.
Yes, can't find anything is +55.. 45 is the closest they offer...
I run 17" snows / wheels on my '17 MDX SH-AWD. Picture attached. Nokian snows with 4th gen TL 17 inch wheels.... Note I run 235-65R17 snows only because I'm reusing them from my '15 RDX. The're a bit shorter than stock, and 245-65R17 is the proper size. If I were buying new snows I'd get the 245's.....
I run 17" snows / wheels on my '17 MDX SH-AWD. Picture attached. Nokian snows with 4th gen TL 17 inch wheels.... Note I run 235-65R17 snows only because I'm reusing them from my '15 RDX. The're a bit shorter than stock, and 245-65R17 is the proper size. If I were buying new snows I'd get the 245's.....
I found the nokian at simple tire... i heard of them before but never used them because they're hard to find.. I rather have cheap steel wheels that'll take the brutal roads... so hard to find generic steel rims
The TPMS sensors I'm using are the OEM ones - ordered them online thru one of the online resellers ( https://www.acurapartsforless.com/?g...SAAEgK_6_D_BwE ). If you go this way make sure you order the sensor, the washer and the nut. Combined price was like $30-ish per wheel in parts.
Traditionally I've liked to run steel wheels - and for my '13 MDX I actually was able to run the OEM steel wheels from a Honda Pilot. But the cost was similar vs aftermarket alloy, and the alloys hold up almost as well. And for the 17 inch wheel/tire combo with the 245 tires on them you shouldn't have any rim issues with pot holes, etc.
I buy Nokian because I have a local shop here in NH that sells me Nokian for less than every other major brand (including Michelin and Bridgestone) - so it's a no-brainer to go for them. On my MDX I run Nokian Nordman 5 snows without studs. On my wife's TL I just put a new set of Nokian Hakkapellitta R3's which are great as well.
But, again, if I were looking to get a quick set together, the Tire Rack is a 1-stop solution that might be a few bucks more than doing it yourself, but what you get is something that'lll bolt right up and work fine. Just remember to use the lug nuts they provide, because aftermarket is conical seat vs OEM that's a round-seat lug nut. Also use the hub-centering rings they provide to give you a smooth spin on the vehicle.
The wheel specs at the bottom of your screen shot show a 17x6.5 wheel, which is a bit narrower than what you'd get normally - but probably not a deal breaker. The issue would be the hub bore. It'll be big enough to get over the 64mm OEM hub, but will rely on the lugs themselves to center the wheel on the rim. For alloys you can get hub-centering rings to make the wheel fit snug/centered on the hub, but I don't believe they make centering rings that work on steel wheels. So you may run the risk of the wheels not being as smooth spinning on the vehicle as if the wheel was matched hub-size-wise to the vehicle (like the OEM steel Pilot wheels I used were).
If you don't care about the hub centering issue, these should work OK. BUT - make sure you have them provide TPMS sensors that work on steel wheels. The OEM ones won't work on steel wheels, since they're machined for a thicker rim (alloy). The steel wheels are thinner, and I can remember some folks trying to use OEM sensors on steel wheels and having issues with them not tightening all the way down....
I'm submitting another wheel spec that will fit the 3rd gen MDX. I am running 17X8 +55 offset wheels off a 2004-2006 Acura RL SH-AWD. Factory part number is 42700SJAA81. I've powder coated mine 'stealth charcoal and currently running Goodyear Wrangler Adventure (w/ Kevlar) 255/65r17. Using VDO SE55914 TPMS. Interior noise 'slightly louder'. Drive much more compliant and according to the wife more comfortable. Going down from the 20" factory setup down to 17" with all terrain tires. Center caps are off the 20" Advanced wheels.
**you cannot use the factory lug nuts. Viable substitution are lug nuts from Toyota Tundra/Sequoia part number 90084-94002. Basically M14X1.5 mag lug 7/8 drive.
**you cannot use the factory lug nuts. Viable substitution are lug nuts from Toyota Tundra/Sequoia part number 90084-94002. Basically M14X1.5 mag lug 7/8 drive.
So I'm curious - if the wheels you're using are factory RL ones - I'd assume that the lug nuts are the round-seated ones like on all Honda wheels. I know that when I ran TL wheels on my '17 MDX for winter tires the factory lug nuts worked just fine. Would love to know why they didn't work for your setup.
I am a fan of using OEM wheels if you can - much stronger. Looks good!
So I'm curious - if the wheels you're using are factory RL ones - I'd assume that the lug nuts are the round-seated ones like on all Honda wheels. I know that when I ran TL wheels on my '17 MDX for winter tires the factory lug nuts worked just fine. Would love to know why they didn't work for your setup.
I am a fan of using OEM wheels if you can - much stronger. Looks good!
andy
Hi Andy,
You could probably use the factory ball conical lug nuts on the RL but the RL wheels do not have the ball conical lug seats in the wheels. Hopefully you can pick up what I'm saying from the pictures. Ultimately, it's safety and piece of mind for me.
You could probably use the factory ball conical lug nuts on the RL but the RL wheels do not have the ball conical lug seats in the wheels. Hopefully you can pick up what I'm saying from the pictures. Ultimately, it's safety and piece of mind for me.
Learn something new everyday. I always thought that OEM Honda/Acura wheels all have ball-shaped lug nut seats.
Learn something new everyday. I always thought that OEM Honda/Acura wheels all have ball-shaped lug nut seats.
That's what I thought until America's Tire pointed the lug seat position out. Luckily I had access to donor Sequoia/Tundra M14X15 factory mag lugs. If anyone going my route, the Toyota lug part number is 90942-A1001 and if you want to get the wheel lock (McGard) part number is PT276-60070. Anyhoot, sharing knowledge.
That's what I thought until America's Tire pointed the lug seat position out. Luckily I had access to donor Sequoia/Tundra M14X15 factory mag lugs. If anyone going my route, the Toyota lug part number is 90942-A1001 and if you want to get the wheel lock (McGard) part number is PT276-60070. Anyhoot, sharing knowledge.
Thanks much for the explanation - Like the earlier reply, I too had thought that all OEM Acura/Honda wheels had rounded lug nuts - so to find the RL wheels don't is surprising - but your pics do show the difference. Learn something new every day!
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