Rear-end collision safety concern.
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Rear-end collision safety concern.
Two days ago my car was rear ended while my kids were at their piano lesson. My car was parked outside the piano teacher's house and luckily we weren't in the car. It was a 30MPH zone and obviously the driver was speeding and not paying attention. She said she saw an animal and tried to avoid it. I call it BS, I think she was most likely on her phone, an 18 yr old driver.
I was surprised about the damage she left on my car, she took off the entire rear tire. Her insurance co. told me it's not totaled because they are estimating a repair of $15k. It was towed to a body shop today and the first impression they have was "why did insurance even sent the car over." Good news body shop told me to start shopping for new car this weekend, they will pass the news to insurance next week.
My apologies for long post, but now I question the rear integrity of MDX. Should I even buy a MDX again?? This is my first time owning an Acura. My previous car was Volvo XC90, my XC90 didn't have this kind of damage when we were rear ended.
I enjoyed my MDX but not sure about the safety, what if we were in the car? She took entire left side of the car and caused the driver door to bent out.
What do you guys thinks?? Buy MDX 17' or not?
Thanks in advance.
I was surprised about the damage she left on my car, she took off the entire rear tire. Her insurance co. told me it's not totaled because they are estimating a repair of $15k. It was towed to a body shop today and the first impression they have was "why did insurance even sent the car over." Good news body shop told me to start shopping for new car this weekend, they will pass the news to insurance next week.
My apologies for long post, but now I question the rear integrity of MDX. Should I even buy a MDX again?? This is my first time owning an Acura. My previous car was Volvo XC90, my XC90 didn't have this kind of damage when we were rear ended.
I enjoyed my MDX but not sure about the safety, what if we were in the car? She took entire left side of the car and caused the driver door to bent out.
What do you guys thinks?? Buy MDX 17' or not?
Thanks in advance.
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Glad, no one was hurt. I just bought a 2017 MDX and with an 18 month old, I feel the car would provide enough safety. It looks like the body took massive damage but none of that matters if everyone is safe at the end. Compared to my old 02 TL-S, it's from another dimension in terms of safety features.
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#8
Thanks, I've already looked at that before purchasing this car. I know MDX has high safety ratings but surprisingly these tests excludes rear ended accidents.
#9
I have to say that damage is quite severe, but not necessarily in terms of being more than expected on the MDX. So what I mean by that is that any modern car will get damaged like that from a hit at that speed and angle. Now on the other hand, there is no debating that the XC90 will be a safer car, Volvo obviously prides themselves on being the "safety company" and goes above and beyond to ensure safety from all angles. The other thing to note is that the europeans have much more stringent crash test requirements than we do in North America so there's that to consider as well when comparing crash test results of the XC90 to MDX. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either getting another MDX or stepping up to the big daddy of safety, the XC90.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
#10
I have to say that damage is quite severe, but not necessarily in terms of being more than expected on the MDX. So what I mean by that is that any modern car will get damaged like that from a hit at that speed and angle. Now on the other hand, there is no debating that the XC90 will be a safer car, Volvo obviously prides themselves on being the "safety company" and goes above and beyond to ensure safety from all angles. The other thing to note is that the europeans have much more stringent crash test requirements than we do in North America so there's that to consider as well when comparing crash test results of the XC90 to MDX. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either getting another MDX or stepping up to the big daddy of safety, the XC90.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
I'm thinking about getting a 17' CPO MDX, with CPO, can I take warranty repair to any dealer or only the dealer where I purchased the car?
thanks!
#11
Vehicles are designed to protect occupants and if you were all in the MDX when this happened you surely would have escaped injury. Engineers could design cars like tanks but then crash energy is transferred to the occupants. The extreme offset of this particular crash concentrated the energy on a small portion of the rear of the car making it look worse. What I'd be concerned about is proper repairs and going after the other drivers insurance for a diminished value claim. Your MDX will show up as having accident damage with significant repairs making your car less desirable in the used market.
#14
no, meant rear ended in the entire back of XC90. I was thinking much after the accident was in shock, but jbawden helped point me to the reasons why there's more damage because it was concentrated on one small spot, which makes total sense.
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#16
Drifting
OP,
Your car didn't take a rear end hit, your car was side swiped. The point of impact missed the rear bumper reinforcement beam. That bumper beam is connected to the two rear frame rails/floor and where all the strength and energy absorbing features are.
Your car looks really bad because the point of impact only hit sheet metal... The quarter panel.
Cars are design to with stand front, rear, and side impacts but not from the rear/side going forward, the quarter panel area. The weakest part of any car is just behind the back seat to the rear bumper from the side. In this area there is no reinforcement of the sheet metal other than the frame rails. Which is located in-between the rear shock towers under the floor.
You were lucky that no one was inside the car when this happened because the angle if impact may of really hurt someone that was sitting in the left rear seat.
Any car will sustain serious damage when hit from this weird angle because cars are not really designed to be hit from that odd angle. Yes, even your Volvo would of been totaled.
Your car didn't take a rear end hit, your car was side swiped. The point of impact missed the rear bumper reinforcement beam. That bumper beam is connected to the two rear frame rails/floor and where all the strength and energy absorbing features are.
Your car looks really bad because the point of impact only hit sheet metal... The quarter panel.
Cars are design to with stand front, rear, and side impacts but not from the rear/side going forward, the quarter panel area. The weakest part of any car is just behind the back seat to the rear bumper from the side. In this area there is no reinforcement of the sheet metal other than the frame rails. Which is located in-between the rear shock towers under the floor.
You were lucky that no one was inside the car when this happened because the angle if impact may of really hurt someone that was sitting in the left rear seat.
Any car will sustain serious damage when hit from this weird angle because cars are not really designed to be hit from that odd angle. Yes, even your Volvo would of been totaled.
#18
Drifting
LOL,
1. This vehicle is not regulated by the 5 MPH bumper law.
2. Rear bumpers are only 2 MPH when regulated.
3. The bumper law only requires when hit that it protects certain parts or components from damage at the 5 or 2 MPH limit. Ie... Radiator.
1. This vehicle is not regulated by the 5 MPH bumper law.
2. Rear bumpers are only 2 MPH when regulated.
3. The bumper law only requires when hit that it protects certain parts or components from damage at the 5 or 2 MPH limit. Ie... Radiator.
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Drifting
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Drifting
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Drifting
#26
Your car did EXACTLY what it is supposed to do in an accident. The Acura is a super safe vehicle. It is designed to destroy the car however save the occupants. Your looking at the body damage and worried about the car, when in return safety is concerned with the occupants had you been inside the car you would less likely to be injured but the car itself be hurt. Honestly a giant Highlander plowing into your car is going to create major damage no matter what car your in depending how hard it gets hit. Best of luck with the new car!
#27
Drifting
The higher the speed of the crash the more important is the role of the bumper beam because the beam doesn't just act as a super strong barrier but it also transfers energy from one side of the frame rail to the other side frame rail as well. Thus disturbing the energy of the impact to a much large area to despite and absorb any energy trying to reach the passenger compartment.
That bumper beam is a critical part of the vehicle's crash worthiness. Regardless of the 5 or 2 MPH bumper law.
#28
That really helps and educational. I was happy with my MDX until this happened and was concerned if it's a good decision to buy another MDX. You have helped me decide to shop for another MDX. I didn't really like my XC90, that's why I switched.
I'm thinking about getting a 17' CPO MDX, with CPO, can I take warranty repair to any dealer or only the dealer where I purchased the car?
thanks!
I'm thinking about getting a 17' CPO MDX, with CPO, can I take warranty repair to any dealer or only the dealer where I purchased the car?
thanks!
#29
mrgold35
I would check insurance rates for the 17 MDX and XC90 to compared costs. Insurance companies will adjust their rates on the cost of common repairs for a make/model. Since your personal info will be the same for both quotes (age, marital status, driving history, location, employment, etc...); it would be easy to compare them to see if you will save a little extra $$$ when you factor that in for the total cost of ownership of the two different vehicles (car payment, insurance, gas, maint, depreciation, etc...).
#30
It is funny how everyone had bought into the myth that the Swedish/Chinese Volvo is safer than anything else on the road.
Fact is that the MDX is just as safe as the Volvo and - quite frankly - you cant compare two accidents.
Here, your car was scraped (a bad "scrape" but still a scrape) that caught the driver's door. I doubt that there would have been injuries had you been driving.
Make sure you get an independent appraisal of the value before the accident.
Fact is that the MDX is just as safe as the Volvo and - quite frankly - you cant compare two accidents.
Here, your car was scraped (a bad "scrape" but still a scrape) that caught the driver's door. I doubt that there would have been injuries had you been driving.
Make sure you get an independent appraisal of the value before the accident.
#31
Cajun Gumbo Man
Been there done that.....similar "side swipe"....
My 2001 Acura MDX was hit in a similar fashion. over 9k in damages.....I demanded that Acura FIX the suspension NOT the body shop....so Acura replaced all that complicated stuff then brought the MDX to a shop THAT KNOW's HOW TO WORK ON A MDX .....once it was fixed I drove to the dealership and traded it ASAP as it was NOT the same.....Start shopping for a new MDX....
#32
Cajun Gumbo Man
Adult driving too fast so he took that street we were sitting at for red light to turn green....THEN BAM.....i WANTED TO KEEL SOMEONE.....
#33
Cajun Gumbo Man
Messed up his tank too!
#34
Cajun Gumbo Man
I was sick to my stomach looking at my like new MDX with very little miles on it.....
#35
#36
Two days ago my car was rear ended while my kids were at their piano lesson. My car was parked outside the piano teacher's house and luckily we weren't in the car. It was a 30MPH zone and obviously the driver was speeding and not paying attention. She said she saw an animal and tried to avoid it. I call it BS, I think she was most likely on her phone, an 18 yr old driver.
I was surprised about the damage she left on my car, she took off the entire rear tire. Her insurance co. told me it's not totaled because they are estimating a repair of $15k. It was towed to a body shop today and the first impression they have was "why did insurance even sent the car over." Good news body shop told me to start shopping for new car this weekend, they will pass the news to insurance next week.
My apologies for long post, but now I question the rear integrity of MDX. Should I even buy a MDX again?? This is my first time owning an Acura. My previous car was Volvo XC90, my XC90 didn't have this kind of damage when we were rear ended.
I enjoyed my MDX but not sure about the safety, what if we were in the car? She took entire left side of the car and caused the driver door to bent out.
What do you guys thinks?? Buy MDX 17' or not?
Thanks in advance.
I was surprised about the damage she left on my car, she took off the entire rear tire. Her insurance co. told me it's not totaled because they are estimating a repair of $15k. It was towed to a body shop today and the first impression they have was "why did insurance even sent the car over." Good news body shop told me to start shopping for new car this weekend, they will pass the news to insurance next week.
My apologies for long post, but now I question the rear integrity of MDX. Should I even buy a MDX again?? This is my first time owning an Acura. My previous car was Volvo XC90, my XC90 didn't have this kind of damage when we were rear ended.
I enjoyed my MDX but not sure about the safety, what if we were in the car? She took entire left side of the car and caused the driver door to bent out.
What do you guys thinks?? Buy MDX 17' or not?
Thanks in advance.
#37
Your MDX got hit in a "soft spot" by a "hard point" of the other vehicle. Ever since NTSHA started testing vehicles for small offset front end collisions the front bumpers on most of the newer vehicles have turned into battering rams aka really strong.
Buy another MDX if you like them. They are very safe vehicles.
Also, park somewhere else. Maybe there is something about that spot that sneaks up on drivers and they end up going too fast.
Buy another MDX if you like them. They are very safe vehicles.
Also, park somewhere else. Maybe there is something about that spot that sneaks up on drivers and they end up going too fast.