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Old 03-14-2019, 04:53 PM
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New buyers. Why didn't you get the hybrid?

hybrids are a slow seller and very rare finding certain color/package combos. Out of my 2 local dealers, 1 has zero hybrids, and the other only has 2 advanced models. i need to drive 70+ miles and a state away to find a dealer that has a modern steel tech hybrid. I'm wondering if acura isn't making a bunch because there is a big change coming with the 2020? What scared you away from the hybrid? Just the price discount?
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the word hybrid throws everyone off. it doesnt sip gas like the name implies...rather, it takes SHAWD and acceleration to the NEXT LEVEL.
The People who are buying a 7 seater SUV are not looking for this.
Further cemented is the fact that BMW bosses said there isnt going to be an M version of the X7, because buyers in this segment are not looking for power.
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one issue may be that you cannot tow with the hybrid
the other is price. Sticker Price isn't much more, but actual price paid is
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:27 PM
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the word hybrid throws everyone off. it doesnt sip gas like the name implies...rather, it takes SHAWD and acceleration to the NEXT LEVEL.
The People who are buying a 7 seater SUV are not looking for this.
Further cemented is the fact that BMW bosses said there isnt going to be an M version of the X7, because buyers in this segment are not looking for power.
i'm coming from a 2004 TL with 240k miles i've put on. I'm getting too old and fat for another low car and wanting a sporty suv. Reading about all the infotainment issues with the new RDX has turned me off, so i'm leaning towards the mdx hybrid as something fun, but it seems no one else is. i get its not going the Prius route but more performance and that is what excites me. Just a shame that no one else is excited by that, i kind of feel if i buy the hybrid i better get rid of it before the warranty ends because acura knows something I don't since they aren't making any.
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we know what acura knows...its not selling. why make them when they dont sell?
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:57 PM
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I bought the hybrid specifically for the performance!
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i kind of feel if i buy the hybrid i better get rid of it before the warranty ends because acura knows something I don't since they aren't making any.
Supply and demand...........

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we know what acura knows...its not selling. why make them when they dont sell?
No demand - no supply.
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I bought the hybrid specifically for the performance!
I'm jealous!
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For me it was primarily the lack of towing ability, in addition to I like the wheels on the 19 Advance better than on the hybrid. Plus entertainment isn't available on the hybrid.

Secondarily (although not a primary driver in my decision) is the hit on gas mileage with any hybrid / electric vehicle in cold weather as I live in MN.
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Exactly a year ago, I had my heart set on a hybrid advance version but the dealers here would not discount it more than a token 500-1000 if that. The regular advance was on the other hand almost 6k off sticker to the point it was significantly cheaper than a hybrid tech. Midwest dealers would discount it about 3500 if you pushed but with shipping to CA, it was almost back to sticker. Thus I gave in and just got thr regular advance.
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The lack of being able to tow anything was a big factor to me. Acura doesn't do anything to market it either.
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Those of us who drive the Hybrid know how great it is to enjoy the performance it delivers.

I am leasing and will re-up with a new one in 2 years for sure.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:43 AM
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Those of us who drive the Hybrid know how great it is to enjoy the performance it delivers.

I am leasing and will re-up with a new one in 2 years for sure.
For me the improvement in fuel economy (outside of high speed highway mileage and exluding the sizeable drop in the winter in mid west) was the main reason I considered the hybrid (now that the 19 advance also gets active dampers). The other performance gains such as different AWD and added acceleration I wouldn't have actively sought after considering from my perspective the 3.5 has more than enough get up and go to either get me into or out of trouble when needed
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MDX Hybrids are hard to come by. When I was looking for one, all Hybrid models are immediately taken, the inventory doesn't last long. I got lucky and was able to get it; I was watching the inventory of dealerships, and I got mine 75 miles away from where I live. Performance is awesome, the shifting is buttery smooth, and the gas mileage is way better than my Odyssey.
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shifting is amazing with the dual clutch transmission, but that is the reason you cannot tow. And the ICE off//on is barely noticeable, in fact often not noticeable
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The revised 9 speed in the 2019 gas version is much smoother then previously, I don't notice it ever shifting gears and/or hunting for gears. Much improved vs prior years, I believe they've addressed most of the complaints about the 9 speed with their latest updates for 2019 (both Pilot and MDX)
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The revised 9 speed in the 2019 gas version is much smoother then previously, I don't notice it ever shifting gears and/or hunting for gears. Much improved vs prior years, I believe they've addressed most of the complaints about the 9 speed with their latest updates for 2019 (both Pilot and MDX)
Yes I agree with this-I also lease a 2018 TLX SH AWD and the 9 speed transmission is no problem at all.
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Why? Besides cost, the small difference in fuel economy and the additional maintenance.
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additional maintenance? Hybrid gets rid of the complex AWD for non hybrid. Plus, brakes will last at least twice as long if not longer with hybrid

increase in mpg in city driving is significant
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I went from a rx450h to mdx, in 2017.. was waiting for hybrid which came out 1.5 year later.. i love my rx450h.. 35mpg highway, but i can't fit the family without the 3rd row.. so had no choice
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For me the issues were no towing, in cold climate (like mn) in winter city mileage takes a big hit, highway mpg is about the same or slightly worse than 3.5, I like the 3.5 advance wheels better for 2019, plus hybrid doesn't offer entertainment package
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For me the issues were no towing, in cold climate (like mn) in winter city mileage takes a big hit, highway mpg is about the same or slightly worse than 3.5, I like the 3.5 advance wheels better for 2019, plus hybrid doesn't offer entertainment package
The new '19 Advance wheels look really nice. They are slightly wider at 8.5 compared to 8 for the hybrid so you get 265/45 tires instead of 245/50.
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I needed a newer vehicle to add to my fleet because I have +430,000 miles between my three Acura. They all run perfectly and I could go +500,000 with only minor repair issues. It was the performance of the sh-sh-awd, comfort, 25-30 mpgs, and 6-7 seat space I liked over the +19 RDX. It was impossible to find an used/CPO +18 sh-sh-awd in Fathom blue (wanted carplay and the 1st year depreciation hit already applied). Wait period for new sh-sh-awd in Fathom Blue+Adv was 2-4 months and up to 1-3 states away. Decided to go for new because I can get the exact color combo+Adv.

My biggest concern was when the 4th Gen was going to be released in 2020 or 2021. On top of that, would they make a 4th gen sh-sh-awd available in 2020/2021 or wait until the 4th Gen MMC in 2023/2024 for the sh-sh-awd. It is a possibility they could stop making sh-sh-awd in 2019 and it could be another 3-4 years before it comes back. Gas savings alone will pay the $1500 price of the sh-sh-awd system over 100,000 miles compared to driving my 11 MDX.
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The new '19 Advance wheels look really nice. They are slightly wider at 8.5 compared to 8 for the hybrid so you get 265/45 tires instead of 245/50.
Yeah I really like them, both being wider they look much more aggressive and are flush with the fenders now, as well as the look of the rim itself. Wasn't really a fan of the wheels on the 18 Advance (that they carried over for the 19 Hybrid), in fact when I was considering the 18 I was going to ask the dealer if they'd consider swapping them with the 18" on a base MDX so I could use them for winter and buy the black berlina's for other months (so the base MDX would get free upgrade to 20" wheels instead). Now I like the look of the stock wheels on my 19 Advance so I don't have a need right now for the Berlina's, while they would still look good there is now no need to spend an extra $2k now that the stock wheels look great.

With 19 Advance getting Active Dampers and body color matched lower trim just like the Hybrid they closed the gap some in that regard as well
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I'm a new Dad that was forced to buy and drive a SUV while my wife drive our 4 door $50k sports car. Driving dynamics was #1 on my list, I can care less for a outdated 2014 interior/infotaiment and a decent looking exterior design. The Hybrid has a dual clutch, 3 sport hybrid motors, and adaptive shocks. There was no way I was going to purchase a regular MDX. The dual clutch alone sold me! If haven't tried it, th3 take off performance in sport + mode is mind boggling fast for a Japanese SUV. On the other hand I wanted to wait a extra 4 months for the Aspec version but I thought about and realized you can always add on the exterior cosmetics but you can never had on the hybrid motors, dual clutch and adaptive shocks. Go the extra mile to find a Hybrid IMO.
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I would not pay the extra and wanted the look and features of the ASpec.
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No desire for the added complexity or price for a vehicle that serves as the people hauler/road trip car. I've got other toys to have fun with.
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