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The mdx shawd system works better than my rdx, but even then my rdx is solid in the snow (with snow tires). I wish my rdx had ids, it is a shame though that the ids does not affect ride dampening whatsoever. But I like how it firms up the steering a bunch and puts the transmission into an aggressive mode, though I found it unliveable for normal driving.
In bright daylight, its not enough to have a green ring or light or whatever.
I personally think its bad foresight to put the cup holders anywhere near the shifter. The shifter should either be to the side closest to the driver with the cup holder a few inches over or the cup holders a few inches in front of the shifter. That way zero interference. I also get what you mean about one interfering with the other and vice versa, I think putting the cups in front or beside the shifter pretty much eliminates any interferance.
I feel like I am making a mountain out of a mole hill, but I just don't like pointless stuff like this. It takes a sporty car and makes it gramafied
Ok guys, I think we need to dial it back a bit. We're talking about taking a traditional center console mounted automatic shifter out of a 7-passenger SUV.
As seen in my sig, I have a foot in both camps. I can say I like the immediacy of the shifter in our 2006. There is indeed a slight lag from reverse to drive in the 2016. But you get used to the buttons quickly and actually start to prefer them.
And don't think of it as removing the ability to shift altogether; think of it as Acura evolving with the industry towards a reliance on paddle shifters (if you want to shift at all).
This is my father's 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello. That little lever is to engage reverse. Otherwise, no traditional shifter (just paddles). That's in a 14 year old car.
I still enjoy the experience of rowing a manual gearbox, but unfortunately, a small computer chip can shift faster than me and way more efficient.
Wait until you spill a cup of coffee with lots of sugar down that new selector. My wife drives a tlx and has it and its hard for me to get use to it. She doesn't mind so it must be a woman thing.
Wait until you spill a cup of coffee with lots of sugar down that new selector. My wife drives a tlx and has it and its hard for me to get use to it. She doesn't mind so it must be a woman thing.
The push button differently is different than the traditional shift stick. I guess we are moving toward the future. Now if they can have a push button they can make me a cup of coffee inside the car, they will be perfect.
I've been lurking here a while and finally signed up. I almost bought a 14 MDX but was turned off by the dual screen, another innovation that has a few issues.
One famous car car with push buttons was the Edsel....look what happened there. Seriously when you make a change from tradition the product should perform better than what it replaced. Providing more space is a little feeble IMO.
I drove the 16 and was turned off by the clunky 9 speed and shift button. I really like a lot of other things about the MDX but the RX350 is first class also. I'm going to buy one or the other soon, leaning Lexus but will wait to see what Accura intros in NY in a couple of weeks. Their own 10 speed and single screen like the Pilot might make the difference.
I'm going to buy one or the other soon, leaning Lexus but will wait to see what Accura intros in NY in a couple of weeks. Their own 10 speed and single screen like the Pilot might make the difference.
I hear that the RX350 is getting a redesign for 2017 that will include 3rd row seating. If I'd known before I bought my 2015 MDX, I would've waited.
I thought i wouldn't like it but after a thousand miles I do. Mostly because I do a lot of road trips and when reaching for a drink or anything it doesn't get in the way. Also my friends like the new technology. But more importantly the features such as being able to just hit the start/stop button after driving will automatically put it in park. When I learned about this feature I may sure to do it every time the first couple weeks to get in the habit. This way I'm actually using the car features otherwise I would constantly put it in park then hit stop.
My 15 TLX (SH-AWD) has the push buttons and I hate them. There is a delay making any gear change - it becomes very problematic if you are in a parking lot and you need to go from D to R and back again quickly. I'd say there is a good 1-1.5 second delay from the push to actually being in gear. Which doesn't sound like a lot until you are in a real hurry.
Also, my TLX transmission control module failed one day and the car threw itself into park while I was moving. Fortunately I was only backing out of my driveway at the time. But that can't happen with a regular gear selector. I don't trust the push buttons now. Ditching the car as soon as the lease is up if not sooner. There is a LONG thread in the TLX forum on how bad the 9-speed is, which is also in the 16's.
We just replaced our 12 RDX with a 14 MDX and I was very intentional about avoiding the push button selector and the 9-speed that comes with it, which is why we stayed with the 14. Love the car.
Exactly, the mechanical shifter has long gone, all transmissions are mode selected by switches. This thread is only about the shape of the switch.
The big problem is the delay in its reaction but that's an Acura thing - it's like the delay in the long outdated touchscreen.
The biggest attribute of the conventional shift lever is to provide a place to rest your hand when your arm is on the armrest/console.
Not quite correct. The conventional shifter also allowed the driver to get a visual cue about what gear it was in.
Jeep had to change its lever back to something more conventional and there are reports about people forgetting to put cars in park and exiting the car - along with people just forgetting to shut the car off.
Not quite correct. The conventional shifter also allowed the driver to get a visual cue about what gear it was in.
And gear selection lock-out is mechanical so you can't put the car into Park while it's moving.
Like my fancy push button one did all by itself.
I'm less hung up about buttons vs. shifter as I am the issue of operator control - more precisely the idea that you need to push a button or pull a trigger to make some gear changes with a shifter. With the push button I have to rely on software and electronics.
Not quite correct. The conventional shifter also allowed the driver to get a visual cue about what gear it was in.
Jeep had to change its lever back to something more conventional and there are reports about people forgetting to put cars in park and exiting the car - along with people just forgetting to shut the car off.
Well good thing the car will automatically put itself in park if you open the drivers door while stopped. Forgetting to shut off is not Acura's fault I would imagine that problem could have come to anyone who had a key fob from standard key. Personally I have never let my car continue to run with this or any other car in the past.
Well good thing the car will automatically put itself in park if you open the drivers door while stopped. Forgetting to shut off is not Acura's fault I would imagine that problem could have come to anyone who had a key fob from standard key. Personally I have never let my car continue to run with this or any other car in the past.
Forgetting to shut the car off is due to stupidity/ inattention. Hell, the car beeps at you when you walk away with the key. You can fix features but you can't fix stupid.
Well good thing the car will automatically put itself in park if you open the drivers door while stopped. Forgetting to shut off is not Acura's fault I would imagine that problem could have come to anyone who had a key fob from standard key. Personally I have never let my car continue to run with this or any other car in the past.
Agree that's a fob problem not a push button tranny problem.
However it reminds me of another knock on the push button tranny - there are times when I need to open the driver door a crack to get a good look when I'm backing up (sometimes I like to use the curb as a reference or maybe visibility is bad out the window). Not something I do a lot, but it's impossible now in my TLX because the car goes into park when the door opens.
I struggle to find one benefit that a push button has over conventional, aside from maybe cost of the part. I really dislike the lack of operator control.
Agree that's a fob problem not a push button tranny problem.
However it reminds me of another knock on the push button tranny - there are times when I need to open the driver door a crack to get a good look when I'm backing up (sometimes I like to use the curb as a reference or maybe visibility is bad out the window). Not something I do a lot, but it's impossible now in my TLX because the car goes into park when the door opens.
I struggle to find one benefit that a push button has over conventional, aside from maybe cost of the part. I really dislike the lack of operator control.
For me having mirror auto angle down combined with backup camera has eliminated the need to open the door to look out for the past 10 years (since my 07 RDX) not sure why you need to do that, or you could always roll down the window and stick your head out I suppose. Again I don't see it as a common problem very unique to you. I personally love being able to reach my diet coke without having to go around a stick shifter. To each their own I suppose.
For me having mirror auto angle down combined with backup camera has eliminated the need to open the door to look out for the past 10 years (since my 07 RDX) not sure why you need to do that, or you could always roll down the window and stick your head out I suppose. Again I don't see it as a common problem very unique to you. I personally love being able to reach my diet coke without having to go around a stick shifter. To each their own I suppose.
And if you were to spill said diet coke onto buttons accidentally....I can't imagine having a pretty outcome.
For me having mirror auto angle down combined with backup camera has eliminated the need to open the door to look out for the past 10 years (since my 07 RDX) not sure why you need to do that, or you could always roll down the window and stick your head out I suppose. Again I don't see it as a common problem very unique to you. I personally love being able to reach my diet coke without having to go around a stick shifter. To each their own I suppose.
The problem isn't the lack of work arounds, the problem for me is the car making too many decisions for me. If I want to open the door I should be able to open the door. I've managed to get by for 32 years without needing a car to put itself into park. Falls under the "wasn't broken, didn't need fixing" category. Besides it's not there because anyone needs that function, it's there to protect Acura from liability. I can make the argument it actually reinforces bad habits by training people its OK to just exit the car without putting it into park.
In the grand scheme of things none of this is really a big deal. It's just one of those things that didn't get better, it just got different. And it seems very few people have had the experience I did when my car threw itself into park while I was moving when the transmission control module failed. It's unnerving to say the least, and my trust in the overall system is very low.
I'm shocked. How could they remove stick selector and replace it with buttons???? They want to make it totally womens car? Just curios how does everybody else feel about it?
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This is so old, but I just bought a used 2017 MDX, and I hate the shifter so much that I had to come online and complain about it. lol. I'm a woman! So I don't get that statement, but whatever. 😂 😂
I'm trying to figure out a way to cover it and still have it look good and be functional. I feel like it's one coffee splash away from not being able to shift gears. Any veteran owners run into this?
This is so old, but I just bought a used 2017 MDX, and I hate the shifter so much that I had to come online and complain about it. lol. I'm a woman! So I don't get that statement, but whatever. 😂 😂
I'm trying to figure out a way to cover it and still have it look good and be functional. I feel like it's one coffee splash away from not being able to shift gears. Any veteran owners run into this?
I think we are just out of luck with the old shifter stock unless Acura provide 6MT or 7MT down the road. Mechanical shifters are becoming obsolete with everything becoming drive by wire transmission, steering, gas pedal, and brakes. It took a while; but, I've gotten used to no shifter to rest my hand on long road trips.
We are getting familiar with it. While not my prefered solution it is ok. For decades going between cars I'd often and still often make wierd motions with my right hand to move the shifter. Get into our Denali pickup and reach for the center console, instead of column. Get into either of our MB and reach for the column instead of the center console, now make waving motions over the console with the MDX. Drive one vehicle for a week or so and then get into another and takes a few trips to remember what to do.
More agrivating is where the wiper stalk is. More than once I've given a right turn signal on the MDX thinking I hit the WSW, all my other vehicles have the WSW stalk on the left side,
My hate of buttons from 4 years ago hasn't gone away, but it's overtaking us now so might as well get used to it. Buttons, knobs, it's all replacing the shifter. I still don't like it.
This was probably in February or March of this year, when I steam cleaned the general area of where the gear buttons were located, Christmas lights lit up and the ebrake wouldn't engage. I got two error codes because of it. And it cleared up after 1 hour at a Lincoln dealer of all places. God I really hate this type of selector, and ebrake (gimme the old fashion lever or foot brake).
02-15-2016, 08:17 PM
