Couldn't be MORE displeased with the new 14 MDX
09-18-2013, 06:50 PM
#1
Racer
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Couldn't be MORE displeased with the new 14 MDX
I am a longtime and 10+ new Acura owner. I recently traded in my MY12 MDX Advance in for the 14 MDX SH-AWD Tech. I have owned 3 2G Mdx's (2011, 2011, 2012) I absolutely HATE it! Here's why:
-Seats are totally uncomfortable. The leather feels like freaking sandpaper. Not enough cushioning or lateral support for legs. I would have gotten the SH-AWD Advance, but they are nearly impossible to get AND I don't want an antiquated TV screen in the back and to spend $58K for an MDX.
-Steering wheel does not tilt down nearly as far as 12 MDX.
-Ergonomics are terrible. When you do find a position that you can live with, you are so far from the touchscreen, dial, and steering wheel it makes operation of anything difficult
-The wheels do not fit the look of the MDX. They are too narrow and the choices are not pleasing aesthetically (I know this is subjective)
-Quality: the leather stitching was so bad on mine they had to replace the "leather" seat covers. The seams were so poor they were raised up in places throughout the vehicle. Panels don't line up properly. Rattles all over the place.
-Sound System: does not have nearly the bass and power as the 12 MDX Advance.
-Touchscreen - don't even get me started. You have to press 2-3 times to turn a heated seat on?
-Problems: Constantly get acuralink messages that the FCW system doesn't work, the VSA & ABS doesn't work, and dealer hasn't been able to fix even with the latest firmware update
-Looks: Front and rear styling is sharp - from the side, it looks like a lifted wagon and NOT an SUV
I could go on but I'm sure I'll get flamed. Absolutely ridiculous that a $50K+ car doesn't even have power folding side mirrors. My latest problem today the car simply refuses to play my iPOD. Changed the cable, rebooted the ipod, checked the ipod. Nothing. Just states "Unsupported".
I am absolutely fed up with this car and have informed the dealer already. Actively searching for a replacement, be it a new 2013 MDX Tech or Advanced or SQ5, Q5, or ML. It's really sad as I have owned Acura products forever. Completely over Acura. They mom-ified this MDX and then executed it poorly.
Flame over.
-Seats are totally uncomfortable. The leather feels like freaking sandpaper. Not enough cushioning or lateral support for legs. I would have gotten the SH-AWD Advance, but they are nearly impossible to get AND I don't want an antiquated TV screen in the back and to spend $58K for an MDX.
-Steering wheel does not tilt down nearly as far as 12 MDX.
-Ergonomics are terrible. When you do find a position that you can live with, you are so far from the touchscreen, dial, and steering wheel it makes operation of anything difficult
-The wheels do not fit the look of the MDX. They are too narrow and the choices are not pleasing aesthetically (I know this is subjective)
-Quality: the leather stitching was so bad on mine they had to replace the "leather" seat covers. The seams were so poor they were raised up in places throughout the vehicle. Panels don't line up properly. Rattles all over the place.
-Sound System: does not have nearly the bass and power as the 12 MDX Advance.
-Touchscreen - don't even get me started. You have to press 2-3 times to turn a heated seat on?
-Problems: Constantly get acuralink messages that the FCW system doesn't work, the VSA & ABS doesn't work, and dealer hasn't been able to fix even with the latest firmware update
-Looks: Front and rear styling is sharp - from the side, it looks like a lifted wagon and NOT an SUV
I could go on but I'm sure I'll get flamed. Absolutely ridiculous that a $50K+ car doesn't even have power folding side mirrors. My latest problem today the car simply refuses to play my iPOD. Changed the cable, rebooted the ipod, checked the ipod. Nothing. Just states "Unsupported".
I am absolutely fed up with this car and have informed the dealer already. Actively searching for a replacement, be it a new 2013 MDX Tech or Advanced or SQ5, Q5, or ML. It's really sad as I have owned Acura products forever. Completely over Acura. They mom-ified this MDX and then executed it poorly.
Flame over.
09-18-2013, 06:54 PM
#2
Racer
Thread Starter
I will say that the fuel economy is great, and I do enjoy the LED headlights. But I'd trade the headlights and fuel economy for a second to relive the comfort and likability I had in my 12 Advance. The rain sensing wipers are also a nice plus on the 14. The IDS system is very nice as well. But, all in all this evolution of the MDX is a fail for the enthusiast, and a win for soccer moms and profits for Acura. I had many TLs and I feel they ruined it. I had a couple of TSX's and they are doing away with them. The RLX is a 'nice car' but that's it. Can't begin to compete with the 5 series, A6, etc.
So disappointed. But feel a bit better after the rant.
So disappointed. But feel a bit better after the rant.
09-18-2013, 07:04 PM
#3
1. Sand paper? Really? Are you sure we aren't over exaggerating a bit? I think the new semi-smooth leather feel awesome!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
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09-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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I will say that the fuel economy is great, and I do enjoy the LED headlights. But I'd trade the headlights and fuel economy for a second to relive the comfort and likability I had in my 12 Advance. The rain sensing wipers are also a nice plus on the 14. The IDS system is very nice as well. But, all in all this evolution of the MDX is a fail for the enthusiast, and a win for soccer moms and profits for Acura. I had many TLs and I feel they ruined it. I had a couple of TSX's and they are doing away with them. The RLX is a 'nice car' but that's it. Can't begin to compete with the 5 series, A6, etc.
So disappointed. But feel a bit better after the rant.
So disappointed. But feel a bit better after the rant.
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09-18-2013, 09:44 PM
#5
Drifting
I am sorry that you are so upset. Just a question though - many of the concerns that you have are typically things that you would have noticed when you test drove the car before you purchased it. Did they not bother you then? I would have noticed all of those things myself (the side profile, wheels, sound system etc) before I purchased the vehicle - after all, it's a big investment! Or were you one of those people who pre-purchased it BEFORE it arrived at the showroom???
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09-19-2013, 10:27 AM
#6
2G TLX-S
If you don't like your car; dump it, sell it, trade it, or get ride of it ASAP.
Buy the ones that you really like/enjoy.
Life is short, my friend.
There is nothing more worse in life than to force yourself everyday to drive around in a vehicle that you hate so much.
Buy the ones that you really like/enjoy.
Life is short, my friend.
There is nothing more worse in life than to force yourself everyday to drive around in a vehicle that you hate so much.
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09-19-2013, 11:35 AM
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Racer
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1. Sand paper? Really? Are you sure we aren't over exaggerating a bit? I think the new semi-smooth leather feel awesome!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
2. Agreed.
3. Ergonomics is a broad term used in general to describe the relationship from the position of the driver to the controls, wheel, etc. When you are 6'4" and 198lbs, "scooting the seat up a bit" doesn't solve the problem.
4. Maybe so, but I thought the purpose of a forum is discussion, opinions, comments, information, etc? Apparently not in your mind. Sounds like you don't welcome any opinions differing from your own. If you knew the vehicles, 14 tech package comes with 19x8. Yes, I believe that as a MINIMUM a vehicle of this size with AWD and in this class SHOULD have at least 19x9. The 10-13 advance was provided with 19x8.5.
5. Yes, you got me, I purposely go shopping for lemons! Really?
The demo car my dealer had only for weeks (because of delayed delivery problems from new factory) was a BASE FWD. They were taking orders off of that. The 10-13 MDX Base had pleather-like, stiff, uncomfortable seats in them. The tech package added softer leather/seats. The Advance added even softer Milano leather with ventilated seats. I had an expectation (though false) as a previous multi-MDX owner that the tech package would have nicer/better seats than the Base - I was wrong. Further, they had to source my car from the midwest since SH-AWD in the SW/Sunbelt were very hard to come by in June. So when the car was finally delivered, I was shocked at the quality of the leather and the execution of its assembly. Not having seen a 14 tech or advance, it was very disappointing. When you purchase from a manufacturer over and over again, you have a certain expectation of materials. Is it ultimately my fault I bought a car sight unseen? yes.
6. Didn't realize I was talking to a sound engineer/expert. Multiple people that rode in my 12 Advance and the 14 Tech have commented that the sound system does not sound nearly as good or powerful.
7. They have made multiple attempts to fix the car. There are LAWS in place that govern "lemons" and "buybacks." One cannot arbitrarily walk into the dealer and demand they replace a car unless they have attempted a minimum # of attempts at fixing it. So far I'm at 3. Laws vary state to state. If the dealer doesn't have to replace the car, they won't. It's common sense.
8. I assumed (again, incorrectly) that with the 19s the vehicle would look more aggressive and have a slightly higher stance. Again, only had seen a base FWD.
ILX to MDX is a massive apples to oranges comparison, so I'm not going to comment on the ILX other than to say I drove one as I was going to purchase as a commuter car. I felt the TSX was a tremendously better car and value, esp for the price point. But to each his own.
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09-19-2013, 11:39 AM
#8
Racer
Thread Starter
1. Sand paper? Really? Are you sure we aren't over exaggerating a bit? I think the new semi-smooth leather feel awesome!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
Can't find a sh-awd advance? Your dealership should source one for you.
2. Id probably hate my car too if the steering wheel didnt tilt enough.
3. Ergonomics of what? Your seat? You can't be in the same position scooted up a bit?
4. You're entire post so far has been subjective but lets keep going shall we.
And 18x8 is too narrow? What do you want 9in wheels? Go buy an m6.
5. Why did you pick up a car that has such bad upholstery it had to be replaced? Do you go shopping for lemons on purpose?
6. Got me there. I never turn my stem up past 20. Never had the need to blast my music so loud I couldn't differentiate the guitar from the drums.
7. If you have issues like that you should demand a new car for fear that your ABS and VSA system isnt working properly. If you drive off the lot with it that is your own choice.
8. If you thought it looked bad why did you buy it?
Glad my $30 thousand ilx runs smoother!
09-19-2013, 11:45 AM
#9
Racer
Thread Starter
I am sorry that you are so upset. Just a question though - many of the concerns that you have are typically things that you would have noticed when you test drove the car before you purchased it. Did they not bother you then? I would have noticed all of those things myself (the side profile, wheels, sound system etc) before I purchased the vehicle - after all, it's a big investment! Or were you one of those people who pre-purchased it BEFORE it arrived at the showroom???
Also, it's quite difficult on a test drive of Base FWD to hookup your ipod and crank it up with a sales person. Also really hard to get a great feel for a car in a 20 minute test drive. Buyer's remorse sucks.
09-19-2013, 12:15 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
I am glad you learned the lesson.
Though you seem to flip cars pretty often going from a '11, to a '11, and to a '12. What were the reasons and what did you learn each time? If only you found something you didn't like about the car each time, my friend, you have a problem. Just saying. No offend.
Though you seem to flip cars pretty often going from a '11, to a '11, and to a '12. What were the reasons and what did you learn each time? If only you found something you didn't like about the car each time, my friend, you have a problem. Just saying. No offend.
09-19-2013, 12:21 PM
#11
Racer
Thread Starter
I am glad you learned the lesson.
Though you seem to flip cars pretty often going from a '11, to a '11, and to a '12. What were the reasons and what did you learn each time? If only you found something you didn't like about the car each time, my friend, you have a problem. Just saying. No offend.
Though you seem to flip cars pretty often going from a '11, to a '11, and to a '12. What were the reasons and what did you learn each time? If only you found something you didn't like about the car each time, my friend, you have a problem. Just saying. No offend.
09-19-2013, 01:38 PM
#12
Burning Brakes
It's great that you can financially afford to switch cars like that. Most people don't have that luxury. But at the same time, it will hard for you to find something you really like and keep for a long time.
09-19-2013, 02:27 PM
#13
Racer
Thread Starter
09-19-2013, 03:07 PM
#14
-Seats are totally uncomfortable. The leather feels like freaking sandpaper. Not enough cushioning or lateral support for legs. I would have gotten the SH-AWD Advance, but they are nearly impossible to get AND I don't want an antiquated TV screen in the back and to spend $58K for an MDX.
Tilts down plenty for me and telescopes out further than the competition.
Back a close second.
09-19-2013, 03:34 PM
#15
Racer
Thread Starter
Nearly impossible to get != impossible. If you wanted the seats in the advance you should have waited and got an advance. I will say that I think it was a shitty move to have lower quality seats on the lower trim levels as even my 2012 base TSX had perforated seats. However, knowing I wanted perforated in the MDX was one of many reasons I wanted an advance.
MY DEALERSHIP HAS ONLY TAKEN DELIVERY OF 1 ADVANCE THAT WAS PRESOLD. THEY CANNOT GET THEIR HANDS ON ONE. DEALERS THAT HAVE THEM WON'T LET THEM GO. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THE DOWNGRADE OF THE LEATHER. VERY SHITTY. IT'S ALSO RIDICULOUS BECAUSE ACURA KNOWS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN A 50K CAR WANT AND EXPECT VENTILATED SEATS. SO THEY FORCE YOU TO BUY THE TOP PACKAGE WITH A TV TO GET VENTILATED SEATS. I'VE READ PLENTY OF BAD PRESS ABOUT THE OPTION PACKAGE STRUCTURES ON THE 14. PLUS, IF I CAN ADD REAR PARKING SENSORS AS AN ACCESSORY, WHY NOT FRONT? DON'T EVEN GO TO ACURA CANADA'S WEBSITE. THEY HAVE A BASE MDX. MDX NAVI. MDX TECH THAT HAS MILANO LEATHER AND HEATED STEERING WHEEL, AUTO LEVELING HEADLIGHTS, ETC. THEN THE ELITE THAT ACTUALLY HAS REAL WOOD, 360 SURROUND CAMERA, HEADLIGHT WASHERS.
Tilts down plenty for me and telescopes out further than the competition.
I have noticed that something does seem a little off about the car. I feel like the driver doors are very short or are shifted towards the front of the car or something. With my initial position I found myself staring at the pillar between the doors when I turned my head to the left. I have finally found a comfortable position for myself (6'2" 200lbs), but it did take a bit of finagling.
I HAVE ADJUSTED, UPON ADJUSTED THE SEAT. IF I GET TO WHERE LEGS ARE COMFORTABLE, I'M SO FAR FROM THE STEERING WHEEL IT'S RIDICULOUS - AND THEN THE B PILLAR IS TOTALLY IN THE WAY. THEN YOU ARE SO FAR FROM THE TOUCH SCREEN AND CONTROL KNOB IT'S RIDICULOUS.
The wheels on the tech are horrid looking. I like the wheels on the base model better than the tech. Another reason why I went with the advance which look great.
SO TRUE! I THINK THE BASE 14 WHEELS 18'S LOOK WAY BETTER THAN THE TECH 19'S. STILL HAVE NOT SEEN THE ADVANCE 19'S IN PERSON
I've only owned the car for 5 days now, but no quality issues so far.
MINE STARTED 2 WEEKS IN AND HAVEN'T STOPPED. VSA/ABS/FCW FAILURES EVERY DAY. HAD SEVERAL FIRMWARE UPGRADES. DRIVER WINDOW BROKE TWICE, RATTLES FIERCELY. PASSENGER FRONT SPEAKER BLOWN/RATTLES. IPOD WON'T WORK NOW. NAV SYSTEM LOCKS UP, REBOOTS. TOUCH SCREEN GETS CONFUSED/LOST/FROZEN. SEAT SEAMS TERRIBLE.
I have the bass at +2 and subwoofer at +2 now and find it pretty good. I had the sub at +7 and had to turn it down. Again, the advance has a better system though.
ADVANCE ONLY HAS TWO MORE SPEAKERS ON THE ROOF FOR EXTRA 40 WATTS. NOTHING TO DO WITH BASS OR POWER REALLY.
It's one extra press. For heated and cooled seats in other cars you normally press once for full blast and then additional times to turn it down. I actually like how the mdx starts low. So for me it's the same number of presses. Additionally, the MDX has auto cooling and heating which I find to work quite well, requiring 0 presses. Never seen auto before.
IT'S NOT FUN TO TRY AND TURN YOUR HEATED SEAT (OR VENTILATED) WHEN YOU ARE GOING 75 MPH DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND BUMPS ARE OCCURING AND TRYING TO PUT YOUR FINGER EXACTLY IN THE RIGHT SPOT. NOT TO MENTION IF YOU WEAR POLARIZED SUNGLASSES YOU GET HUGE BROWN AND BLACK SPLOTCHES ALL OVER BOTH SCREENS. DIDN'T ACURA STUDY CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE INITIAL IDRIVE SYSTEM ETC? HOW BASIC FUNCTIONS SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A BUTTON AND NOT BE BURIED INTO A MENU OR SUBMENU? I THINK THEY CAVED TO THE AUTOMOTIVE PRESS ABOUT THEIR BUTTON BITCHING.
Never seen a acuralink message yet.
I HOPE YOU NEVER DO. EVERYTIME I START MY CAR - 2 MINUTES INTO MY DRIVE I GET FCW FAILURE MESSAGE. THEN VSA FAILURE MESSAGE. THEN ABS FAILURE MESSAGE.
I actually like it from the side the best Back a close second.
MY DEALERSHIP HAS ONLY TAKEN DELIVERY OF 1 ADVANCE THAT WAS PRESOLD. THEY CANNOT GET THEIR HANDS ON ONE. DEALERS THAT HAVE THEM WON'T LET THEM GO. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THE DOWNGRADE OF THE LEATHER. VERY SHITTY. IT'S ALSO RIDICULOUS BECAUSE ACURA KNOWS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN A 50K CAR WANT AND EXPECT VENTILATED SEATS. SO THEY FORCE YOU TO BUY THE TOP PACKAGE WITH A TV TO GET VENTILATED SEATS. I'VE READ PLENTY OF BAD PRESS ABOUT THE OPTION PACKAGE STRUCTURES ON THE 14. PLUS, IF I CAN ADD REAR PARKING SENSORS AS AN ACCESSORY, WHY NOT FRONT? DON'T EVEN GO TO ACURA CANADA'S WEBSITE. THEY HAVE A BASE MDX. MDX NAVI. MDX TECH THAT HAS MILANO LEATHER AND HEATED STEERING WHEEL, AUTO LEVELING HEADLIGHTS, ETC. THEN THE ELITE THAT ACTUALLY HAS REAL WOOD, 360 SURROUND CAMERA, HEADLIGHT WASHERS.
Tilts down plenty for me and telescopes out further than the competition.
I have noticed that something does seem a little off about the car. I feel like the driver doors are very short or are shifted towards the front of the car or something. With my initial position I found myself staring at the pillar between the doors when I turned my head to the left. I have finally found a comfortable position for myself (6'2" 200lbs), but it did take a bit of finagling.
I HAVE ADJUSTED, UPON ADJUSTED THE SEAT. IF I GET TO WHERE LEGS ARE COMFORTABLE, I'M SO FAR FROM THE STEERING WHEEL IT'S RIDICULOUS - AND THEN THE B PILLAR IS TOTALLY IN THE WAY. THEN YOU ARE SO FAR FROM THE TOUCH SCREEN AND CONTROL KNOB IT'S RIDICULOUS.
The wheels on the tech are horrid looking. I like the wheels on the base model better than the tech. Another reason why I went with the advance which look great.
SO TRUE! I THINK THE BASE 14 WHEELS 18'S LOOK WAY BETTER THAN THE TECH 19'S. STILL HAVE NOT SEEN THE ADVANCE 19'S IN PERSON
I've only owned the car for 5 days now, but no quality issues so far.
MINE STARTED 2 WEEKS IN AND HAVEN'T STOPPED. VSA/ABS/FCW FAILURES EVERY DAY. HAD SEVERAL FIRMWARE UPGRADES. DRIVER WINDOW BROKE TWICE, RATTLES FIERCELY. PASSENGER FRONT SPEAKER BLOWN/RATTLES. IPOD WON'T WORK NOW. NAV SYSTEM LOCKS UP, REBOOTS. TOUCH SCREEN GETS CONFUSED/LOST/FROZEN. SEAT SEAMS TERRIBLE.
I have the bass at +2 and subwoofer at +2 now and find it pretty good. I had the sub at +7 and had to turn it down. Again, the advance has a better system though.
ADVANCE ONLY HAS TWO MORE SPEAKERS ON THE ROOF FOR EXTRA 40 WATTS. NOTHING TO DO WITH BASS OR POWER REALLY.
It's one extra press. For heated and cooled seats in other cars you normally press once for full blast and then additional times to turn it down. I actually like how the mdx starts low. So for me it's the same number of presses. Additionally, the MDX has auto cooling and heating which I find to work quite well, requiring 0 presses. Never seen auto before.
IT'S NOT FUN TO TRY AND TURN YOUR HEATED SEAT (OR VENTILATED) WHEN YOU ARE GOING 75 MPH DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND BUMPS ARE OCCURING AND TRYING TO PUT YOUR FINGER EXACTLY IN THE RIGHT SPOT. NOT TO MENTION IF YOU WEAR POLARIZED SUNGLASSES YOU GET HUGE BROWN AND BLACK SPLOTCHES ALL OVER BOTH SCREENS. DIDN'T ACURA STUDY CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE INITIAL IDRIVE SYSTEM ETC? HOW BASIC FUNCTIONS SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A BUTTON AND NOT BE BURIED INTO A MENU OR SUBMENU? I THINK THEY CAVED TO THE AUTOMOTIVE PRESS ABOUT THEIR BUTTON BITCHING.
Never seen a acuralink message yet.
I HOPE YOU NEVER DO. EVERYTIME I START MY CAR - 2 MINUTES INTO MY DRIVE I GET FCW FAILURE MESSAGE. THEN VSA FAILURE MESSAGE. THEN ABS FAILURE MESSAGE.
I actually like it from the side the best
Back a close second. OF COURSE LOOKS ARE ALWAYS SUGGESTIVE. BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEERHOLDER, RIGHT? 
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09-19-2013, 05:03 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
I agree it looks a bit like a van from side view. But if you add running boards and roof rails, it will look so much better. So much that I had to install mine a week after I bought it.
09-19-2013, 05:06 PM
#17
Racer
Thread Starter
09-19-2013, 05:22 PM
#18
Burning Brakes
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09-20-2013, 07:49 AM
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I am a longtime and 10+ new Acura owner. I recently traded in my MY12 MDX Advance in for the 14 MDX SH-AWD Tech. I have owned 3 2G Mdx's (2011, 2011, 2012) I absolutely HATE it! Here's why:
-Seats are totally uncomfortable. The leather feels like freaking sandpaper. Not enough cushioning or lateral support for legs. I would have gotten the SH-AWD Advance, but they are nearly impossible to get AND I don't want an antiquated TV screen in the back and to spend $58K for an MDX.
-Steering wheel does not tilt down nearly as far as 12 MDX.
-Ergonomics are terrible. When you do find a position that you can live with, you are so far from the touchscreen, dial, and steering wheel it makes operation of anything difficult
-The wheels do not fit the look of the MDX. They are too narrow and the choices are not pleasing aesthetically (I know this is subjective)
-Quality: the leather stitching was so bad on mine they had to replace the "leather" seat covers. The seams were so poor they were raised up in places throughout the vehicle. Panels don't line up properly. Rattles all over the place.
-Sound System: does not have nearly the bass and power as the 12 MDX Advance.
-Touchscreen - don't even get me started. You have to press 2-3 times to turn a heated seat on?
-Problems: Constantly get acuralink messages that the FCW system doesn't work, the VSA & ABS doesn't work, and dealer hasn't been able to fix even with the latest firmware update
-Looks: Front and rear styling is sharp - from the side, it looks like a lifted wagon and NOT an SUV
I could go on but I'm sure I'll get flamed. Absolutely ridiculous that a $50K+ car doesn't even have power folding side mirrors. My latest problem today the car simply refuses to play my iPOD. Changed the cable, rebooted the ipod, checked the ipod. Nothing. Just states "Unsupported".
I am absolutely fed up with this car and have informed the dealer already. Actively searching for a replacement, be it a new 2013 MDX Tech or Advanced or SQ5, Q5, or ML. It's really sad as I have owned Acura products forever. Completely over Acura. They mom-ified this MDX and then executed it poorly.
Flame over.
-Seats are totally uncomfortable. The leather feels like freaking sandpaper. Not enough cushioning or lateral support for legs. I would have gotten the SH-AWD Advance, but they are nearly impossible to get AND I don't want an antiquated TV screen in the back and to spend $58K for an MDX.
-Steering wheel does not tilt down nearly as far as 12 MDX.
-Ergonomics are terrible. When you do find a position that you can live with, you are so far from the touchscreen, dial, and steering wheel it makes operation of anything difficult
-The wheels do not fit the look of the MDX. They are too narrow and the choices are not pleasing aesthetically (I know this is subjective)
-Quality: the leather stitching was so bad on mine they had to replace the "leather" seat covers. The seams were so poor they were raised up in places throughout the vehicle. Panels don't line up properly. Rattles all over the place.
-Sound System: does not have nearly the bass and power as the 12 MDX Advance.
-Touchscreen - don't even get me started. You have to press 2-3 times to turn a heated seat on?
-Problems: Constantly get acuralink messages that the FCW system doesn't work, the VSA & ABS doesn't work, and dealer hasn't been able to fix even with the latest firmware update
-Looks: Front and rear styling is sharp - from the side, it looks like a lifted wagon and NOT an SUV
I could go on but I'm sure I'll get flamed. Absolutely ridiculous that a $50K+ car doesn't even have power folding side mirrors. My latest problem today the car simply refuses to play my iPOD. Changed the cable, rebooted the ipod, checked the ipod. Nothing. Just states "Unsupported".
I am absolutely fed up with this car and have informed the dealer already. Actively searching for a replacement, be it a new 2013 MDX Tech or Advanced or SQ5, Q5, or ML. It's really sad as I have owned Acura products forever. Completely over Acura. They mom-ified this MDX and then executed it poorly.
Flame over.
09-20-2013, 12:22 PM
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It does seem that you bought the car because it has Acura written on the front of it and not because of the "normal" reasons for buying a car. I do not think that you are the only one though because there are many posts regarding disappointment in the 2014. I had numerous reservations regarding the 2014 and this forum seals it, my 2010 Advance is a well executed progression of the theme whereas the 2014 appears to have been ruined by the bean-counters and the attorneys.
Never would I have dreamed a TSX would have better quality and comfortable 'leather' than a 50K MDX. I believe you are also correct on the bean counters - they try to pull the wool over the sheep's eyes by enticing you with all these cool things like LED headlights, etc. But Acura seems to stop short. Where is the auto leveling and active cornering on the lights? Where is a sport package with upgraded wheels/looks, etc. Hell I had cars 10 years ago that had rain sensing wipers - and Acura just now includes them? I had cars 5 years ago with keyless ignition. Acura just adds it to the MDX? Just doesn't make sense. They also try to sell you on the 'value' of all they added to the 14 MDX. However, when one takes a closer looks, it's all gimmick and poorly executed. It's fine and dandy that the car has better headlights. But then you cheapen the materials in lieu of more gadgets (that don't work or don't work properly) and you alienate your buyer. Funny thing is my sister and my mom each also bought a 2014 MDX Tech. They did NOT like the 2010-2013 as they complained about how hard it was to get in and out, it was "too high", etc. I should've known that if it appeals to my sister and mom, it wouldn't appeal to me. But; in the end, I am ultimately responsible for my decision to purchase and have clearly aimed to rectify my mistake. In retrospect, I guess I am no longer Acura's core buyer. My family has also owned several Lexus and they never appealed to me. Funny that now the new ES & LS really start appealing to me. Now my parents and sister are completely turned off by the new Lexus designs, and Acura appeals to them. HA!
The 2014 will be gone next week and I am done with Acura. It's been a long road of several TL's, MDX's, TSX's. It's a shame. I know I'll pay more going to Audi but I was very happy with my 2008 A5 and 2009 S5. I didn't have any problems, the cars had stunning looks, great features, and options stand-alone or grouped that just made sense. The SQ5 appeals to me right now. Maybe the new 15 Q7 will spark my interest as well.
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09-20-2013, 05:41 PM
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If your looking to something else, you'd be amazed as to what you can get a Q7 for these days. Especially in light of the upcoming redesign. I went through the same debacle not to long ago and ended up getting a 2014 S-Line for the same price as i got quoted on 2014 sh-awd advanced with a number of accessories. Its been a month now and just under 1k miles and I couldn't be happier with my decision.
Good luck with your next move!
Good luck with your next move!
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09-20-2013, 05:49 PM
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I thought about the Q7, and please don't take offense, but the interior looked dated. The SQ5 has a fresher feel to me. Now the Q7 SLine is HOT looking - I'll give you that, especially with the 21's! Glad to hear you made a good choice. Thanks!
09-21-2013, 08:31 AM
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The 2014 will be gone next week and I am done with Acura. It's been a long road of several TL's, MDX's, TSX's. It's a shame. I know I'll pay more going to Audi but I was very happy with my 2008 A5 and 2009 S5. I didn't have any problems, the cars had stunning looks, great features, and options stand-alone or grouped that just made sense. The SQ5 appeals to me right now. Maybe the new 15 Q7 will spark my interest as well.
09-22-2013, 07:31 AM
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Looks like mdx really pissed you. Real sloppy quality work based on your descriptions. Choices that one has to make these days. Whiles I like the external design of the Q5, I drove one owned by a friend and completely wrote it of my list. I did not like the interior and the drive. Looked at the interior of the Q7 and did not even test drive it. Have a 2014 mdx elite in Canada and I will make the same choice over again. My spouse is looking at getting the new X5 early next year and that would serve as a good comparison for me as I have read some nice things abt it.
09-23-2013, 12:11 PM
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09-23-2013, 12:47 PM
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Looks like mdx really pissed you. Real sloppy quality work based on your descriptions. Choices that one has to make these days. Whiles I like the external design of the Q5, I drove one owned by a friend and completely wrote it of my list. I did not like the interior and the drive. Looked at the interior of the Q7 and did not even test drive it. Have a 2014 mdx elite in Canada and I will make the same choice over again. My spouse is looking at getting the new X5 early next year and that would serve as a good comparison for me as I have read some nice things abt it.
09-23-2013, 02:18 PM
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EVery day the more I look at this MDX I am baffled how they could get it so wrong. My newest problem this morning is the driver window is rattling violently when going down the freeway. If you roll it down while driving, it wobbles so bad it almost acts like it is going to come out! My detailer was at the office on Friday and he pointed out some things I hadn't even noticed. Half of the exterior body panels don't even line up, and there are some WIDE gaps and the gaps are not even. It's so incredibly disappointing how they could get the drive/engine/powertrain so right and everything else SO wrong! I was looking at the SQ5. The interior gets some cool extras that the Q5 doesn't get. I agree - while I LOVE the exterior look of the Q7, the interior looked far too dated for me.
09-23-2013, 04:29 PM
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When you check these messages, what do they say? Are they just obnoxious explanatory things about the features? Or error messages?
09-23-2013, 05:31 PM
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Dealer has twice tried to apply firmware update without success. They haven't even attempted to try and fix the problem with the ipod. My nav system freezes/reboots often. The touchscreen gets confused/lost and is slow.
09-23-2013, 05:32 PM
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There is a +1/4" gap on this panel separating the driver side fender from driver door. Also note the crease/styling line doesn't line up between the door and fender.
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09-23-2013, 05:42 PM
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I don't have any pictures of the seats as originally delivered to me. Dealer already replaced the 'leather' seat covers that had the lifted/poor/incomplete seams.
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The crease not meeting properly I can understand, that's legitimately sloppy.
The others might be done by design. Wondering how much expansion/contraction goes on with these body panels in extreme climates (looking at you Canada!) and if I recall, the MDX front doors do open quite widely and may need that freedom. Tight clearances can sometimes be a bad thing. I'm not a designer though, so I'm merely speculating.
The others might be done by design. Wondering how much expansion/contraction goes on with these body panels in extreme climates (looking at you Canada!) and if I recall, the MDX front doors do open quite widely and may need that freedom. Tight clearances can sometimes be a bad thing. I'm not a designer though, so I'm merely speculating.