any news on the 2017 mdx?
03-24-2016, 10:58 AM
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I too was really hoping for Apple CarPlay. Honda has it. You would think Acura would offer at least the same if not more than Honda. Disappointed..... 
03-24-2016, 11:09 AM
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Since the 17 MDX refresh will most likely stay unchanged from 17-19; I will be looking to upgrade to an used hybrid sh-awd 17-18 MDX version 2-4 years down the road. I figure the reliability data should be out, the return on gas savings -vs- hybrid cost should be less, and the styling will remain current for another 4-6 years afterwards. I'm fine with my 11 MDX Adv/Ent until then.
You got to give Acura credit to offer pretty much 90%-99% we all been screaming for on these forums. Hopefully, we don't start to scream again once we see the prices for all these improvements or reliability slip even more with Acura. There is a larger line in the sand between Honda and Acura IF you go for the Adv hybrid model (lower trim Acura's are still a trim level option to the Honda Pilot). This might bring down used car prices for the Adv and/or hybrid model down the road to cluster around the sweet spot MDX tech+Acura watch sh-awd area.
Since there isn't a rear drive shaft for the hybrid MDX, I figure towing is limited to 3000lbs like the fwd version? It might be even less since the engine is only +250hp 3.0L. Don't know if the rear electric motors work or are effective at +70-75 mph?
You got to give Acura credit to offer pretty much 90%-99% we all been screaming for on these forums. Hopefully, we don't start to scream again once we see the prices for all these improvements or reliability slip even more with Acura. There is a larger line in the sand between Honda and Acura IF you go for the Adv hybrid model (lower trim Acura's are still a trim level option to the Honda Pilot). This might bring down used car prices for the Adv and/or hybrid model down the road to cluster around the sweet spot MDX tech+Acura watch sh-awd area.
Since there isn't a rear drive shaft for the hybrid MDX, I figure towing is limited to 3000lbs like the fwd version? It might be even less since the engine is only +250hp 3.0L. Don't know if the rear electric motors work or are effective at +70-75 mph?
The article mentioned that it was DOHC, where does it SOHC?
Yup, this pretty much! They worked so hard designing crap that they wouldn't ditch it just yet. But in theory, the system is not bad, just needs some work like fords sync and touch technology (current version 3)
03-24-2016, 12:03 PM
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I was thinking the same thing, I give Acura credit for pretty much implementing 95% of what the forum members have been talking about. They should market the hybrid as a type-s model with that adaptive suspension have a sport+ setting only on the hybrid!
The article mentioned that it was DOHC, where does it SOHC?
Yup, this pretty much! They worked so hard designing crap that they wouldn't ditch it just yet. But in theory, the system is not bad, just needs some work like fords sync and touch technology (current version 3)
The article mentioned that it was DOHC, where does it SOHC?
Yup, this pretty much! They worked so hard designing crap that they wouldn't ditch it just yet. But in theory, the system is not bad, just needs some work like fords sync and touch technology (current version 3)
Temple of VTEC Rumors and News - 2017 Acura MDX updated with available 325hp 3.0L V6 Sport Hybrid SH-AWD system!
"UPDATE. The press release erroneously noted the V6 as being DOHC. We only found out that it was in fact SOHC during our video interview with Gary Robinson, manager of Acura Product Planning."
03-24-2016, 12:22 PM
#164
Temple of VTEC Rumors and News - 2017 Acura MDX updated with available 325hp 3.0L V6 Sport Hybrid SH-AWD system!
"UPDATE. The press release erroneously noted the V6 as being DOHC. We only found out that it was in fact SOHC during our video interview with Gary Robinson, manager of Acura Product Planning."
"UPDATE. The press release erroneously noted the V6 as being DOHC. We only found out that it was in fact SOHC during our video interview with Gary Robinson, manager of Acura Product Planning."
At least we got vtec! Oh wait.....everyone has vtec lol
03-24-2016, 02:21 PM
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Oh....well that really sucks! Acura uses DOHC in their performance engines....SOHC in their economy engines. Remember how I said 0-60 was going to beat the standard mdx? I now take that back, I think the hybrid might even be slower!
At least we got vtec! Oh wait.....everyone has vtec lol
At least we got vtec! Oh wait.....everyone has vtec lol
03-24-2016, 03:36 PM
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03-24-2016, 05:53 PM
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I have air now on the S7 and it's great, but here is where i'm kind of lost in the MDX...
no wifi connection over LTE....or even 3G/4G (depending on carrier)
no car play
engine choice is strange -
no additional ELS upgrade
SOHC still...
at this point if they simply slot it up (it's missing alot of creature comforts and the top of the line model will start inching into better luxury brands.)
If this hits 70,000 - now you're looking at fully loaded Jeep SRT territory LOL which gets kind of saturated with other options. 70,000 also can get you a nice appointed F-Pace, etc etc
no wifi connection over LTE....or even 3G/4G (depending on carrier)
no car play
engine choice is strange -
no additional ELS upgrade
SOHC still...
at this point if they simply slot it up (it's missing alot of creature comforts and the top of the line model will start inching into better luxury brands.)
If this hits 70,000 - now you're looking at fully loaded Jeep SRT territory LOL which gets kind of saturated with other options. 70,000 also can get you a nice appointed F-Pace, etc etc
03-24-2016, 07:50 PM
#168
I have air now on the S7 and it's great, but here is where i'm kind of lost in the MDX...
no wifi connection over LTE....or even 3G/4G (depending on carrier)
no car play
engine choice is strange -
no additional ELS upgrade
SOHC still...
at this point if they simply slot it up (it's missing alot of creature comforts and the top of the line model will start inching into better luxury brands.)
If this hits 70,000 - now you're looking at fully loaded Jeep SRT territory LOL which gets kind of saturated with other options. 70,000 also can get you a nice appointed F-Pace, etc etc
no wifi connection over LTE....or even 3G/4G (depending on carrier)
no car play
engine choice is strange -
no additional ELS upgrade
SOHC still...
at this point if they simply slot it up (it's missing alot of creature comforts and the top of the line model will start inching into better luxury brands.)
If this hits 70,000 - now you're looking at fully loaded Jeep SRT territory LOL which gets kind of saturated with other options. 70,000 also can get you a nice appointed F-Pace, etc etc
No, but I totally get what you are saying. A fully loaded mdx hits 68k here, I imagine this hybrid will hit 72k, thats really close to some of the top dog luxury players, though to be honest, they will come much more basic than the mdx.
The mdx has always lagged behind in tech. I would maybe buy a mdx used, but wouldn't spend 72k on a MDX new and my opinion is if you will spend 72k, what is a few extra k really?
Acura doesn't have reliability like they used to either. They are starting to fail in simple things like the noisy rdx shocks and noisy mdx shocks, the 9 speed at, while mostly smooth, still has some moderate teething issues. But at the end of the day, will "probably" outlast the audi or other german of the same class.
I have my eye on the new f-pace, but I really hate that it won't be had with the beautiful jag V8. At least not yet.
03-24-2016, 08:27 PM
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Safety Car
Kbb
03-24-2016, 09:12 PM
#170
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
At first it felt like it didnt flow but the more i see the new grille, the more im liking it. Im thinking how it would look like if the V portion of the grille wasnt too deep.
03-24-2016, 09:27 PM
#171
Azine Jabroni
Agreed. Some of the early press photos looked like they taped the thing over the beak. However, in the video, it looks a lot better, IMHO.
03-25-2016, 12:53 AM
#172
Makes me think, what will the Canadians get with this new gen?
03-25-2016, 06:55 AM
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03-25-2016, 07:28 AM
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Pricing
In this vid, Acura says that the price should stay about the same. Elsewhere, they said expect ~10% premium for the hybrid - so the expected $5-6k:
03-25-2016, 08:22 AM
#175
mrgold35
I would be curious to see a side-by-side performance comparison of the MDX sh-awd -vs- the sh-sh-awd (0-30, 0-60, stopping distance, road handling course, towing, real world mpgs, etc...). I would hate to pay +$5K more for the same or similar performance.
03-25-2016, 12:35 PM
#177
Hahahaha I really like you! You must be canadian to have come up with those ideas. I approve the maple syrup scent and the tim hortons dispenser. I would also like to see an, "I am sorry" light that could light up on the rear bumper when doing something impolite.
03-25-2016, 12:39 PM
#178
I agree as well. You would think that with the mdx being so large, they would want it to make it have at least as much power as the rlx. I feel that with the added weight of the batteries, this model may be just as fast or possibly slower than the standard mdx.
03-25-2016, 12:39 PM
#179
Team Owner
I'm actually really surprised there is no carplay either. Can't have everything though, I guess.
03-25-2016, 12:42 PM
#180
Team Owner
I think it will be slightly faster. It does have a weight bump, but don't underestimate the instant torque of the electric motors. I think the additional 35hp will be enough to move the extra weight in line with the previous loaded MDX, but the instant torque will make it just a tad bit faster. It's the braking that will likely suffer a bit, though.
03-25-2016, 12:48 PM
#181
Here's a tidbit from TOV http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1274493
"The addition of the hybrid system means that the Sport Hybrid MDX is roughly 200lbs heavier than the SH-AWD MDX. We were told that the MDX Sport Hybrid's 0-60 performance is essentially the same as the conventional 3.5L SH-AWD powertrain with 9-speed automatic transmission, but the Sport Hybrid system delivers better performance than the 3.5L powertrain in passing maneuvers. "
"The addition of the hybrid system means that the Sport Hybrid MDX is roughly 200lbs heavier than the SH-AWD MDX. We were told that the MDX Sport Hybrid's 0-60 performance is essentially the same as the conventional 3.5L SH-AWD powertrain with 9-speed automatic transmission, but the Sport Hybrid system delivers better performance than the 3.5L powertrain in passing maneuvers. "
03-25-2016, 03:27 PM
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03-25-2016, 09:51 PM
#185
I think it will be slightly faster. It does have a weight bump, but don't underestimate the instant torque of the electric motors. I think the additional 35hp will be enough to move the extra weight in line with the previous loaded MDX, but the instant torque will make it just a tad bit faster. It's the braking that will likely suffer a bit, though.
Here's a tidbit from TOV Temple of VTEC Rumors and News - Update from New York - 2017 MDX Sport Hybrid information
"The addition of the hybrid system means that the Sport Hybrid MDX is roughly 200lbs heavier than the SH-AWD MDX. We were told that the MDX Sport Hybrid's 0-60 performance is essentially the same as the conventional 3.5L SH-AWD powertrain with 9-speed automatic transmission, but the Sport Hybrid system delivers better performance than the 3.5L powertrain in passing maneuvers. "
"The addition of the hybrid system means that the Sport Hybrid MDX is roughly 200lbs heavier than the SH-AWD MDX. We were told that the MDX Sport Hybrid's 0-60 performance is essentially the same as the conventional 3.5L SH-AWD powertrain with 9-speed automatic transmission, but the Sport Hybrid system delivers better performance than the 3.5L powertrain in passing maneuvers. "
Haha I knew it! Only a Canadian can understand another Canadian like that. Another 100% fellow canadian here, Albertan though!
03-27-2016, 01:07 PM
#186
Azine Jabroni
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03-27-2016, 03:07 PM
#187
Google maps can be downloaded and saved for off cell use so this seems strange and may be temporary. I can't believe how nice and simple to use. There are a lot of useful features but one I like most is the ability to ask by voice questions! How far to... Closest gas station.... Navigate to Costco.... For many businesses you don't need an address, just the name. After having it I don't want another vehicle unless AA and CP are included.
03-28-2016, 12:43 PM
#188
I agree but I may know what's holding this up for some manufacturers. My new GMC Sierra Denali has both-I use Android Auto. On a recent trip I noted that maps moved to satellite when there was no cell phone reception. I had assumed that most of the map would download to the vehicle but not true. GM Onstar may be more advanced since its been around for years so GM might have a leg up.
Google maps can be downloaded and saved for off cell use so this seems strange and may be temporary. I can't believe how nice and simple to use. There are a lot of useful features but one I like most is the ability to ask by voice questions! How far to... Closest gas station.... Navigate to Costco.... For many businesses you don't need an address, just the name. After having it I don't want another vehicle unless AA and CP are included.
Google maps can be downloaded and saved for off cell use so this seems strange and may be temporary. I can't believe how nice and simple to use. There are a lot of useful features but one I like most is the ability to ask by voice questions! How far to... Closest gas station.... Navigate to Costco.... For many businesses you don't need an address, just the name. After having it I don't want another vehicle unless AA and CP are included.
Google maps (as you mentioned) has a download feature for maps so that a cell connection is no longer required, but what are you talking about?
03-28-2016, 12:59 PM
#189
The connection notification bar changes from cell to satellite when you no longer have cell service. I had a dark spot of 50 miles at one point. (Dark=No cell service)
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03-29-2016, 09:25 AM
#192
mrgold35
Can't see why Acura couldn't add a supercharger down the road to the 3.0L sh-sh-awd if the 3.5L was too big for this gen or the next gen MDX. Honda's old 3.0L V-6 were about 195-212lbs of TQ. I imagine with DI the TQ might get bumped up to 220-230lbs of TQ range. Towing might be less than the 3.5L fwd MDX?
03-30-2016, 09:31 PM
#194
are 16s gonna get blown out with the 17 changes?
03-31-2016, 03:01 PM
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03-31-2016, 03:14 PM
#196
Team Owner
lol.. honda putting on a supercharger... that'll be the day.
03-31-2016, 03:15 PM
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04-03-2016, 07:42 AM
#198
Burning Brakes
Glad the US '17 will have folding mirrors and auto high beams. It's about time. Now we need all-speed for the ACC, or at least 20 mph instead of the silly 25 mph. It's just a simple software change.
I don't see the '17 being a big seller. Acura will have to the rush the 4 Gen to market. Customers could care less that the MDX is the all-time sales leader in three row SUVs/crossovers.
I don't see the '17 being a big seller. Acura will have to the rush the 4 Gen to market. Customers could care less that the MDX is the all-time sales leader in three row SUVs/crossovers.
04-03-2016, 01:33 PM
#199
2G TLX-S
^^^^^
If the current 3G MDX is still selling relatively well, there's no need to launch the 4G MDX earlier than the planned 5-year Acura product cycle.
It is the RLX that needs the attention to speed up the full model redesign.
If the current 3G MDX is still selling relatively well, there's no need to launch the 4G MDX earlier than the planned 5-year Acura product cycle.
It is the RLX that needs the attention to speed up the full model redesign.
04-03-2016, 09:36 PM
#200
17 MDX will sell just fine, till the new RX long wheel base gets released.....