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2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid Test Review Car and Driver
  • Highs and Lows

    Highs:

    Quicker and better handling than the nonhybrid, luxurious accommodations.Lows:

    Kid-size 3rd row, numb power steering, fuel economy stuck in the 20s.Specifications

    VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, front- and rear-motors, all-wheel-drive, 6-passenger, 4-door hatchback


    PRICE AS TESTED: $58,975 (base price: $52,935)

    ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve 3.0-liter V-6, 257 hp, 218 lb-ft; 1 permanent-magnet synchronous AC front motor, 47 hp, 109 lb-ft; 2 permanent-magnet synchronous AC rear motors, 36 hp (each), 54 lb-ft (each); combined output, 321 hp, 289 lb-ft; 1.3-kWh lithium-ion battery packTRANSMISSION: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic with manual shifting mode


    DIMENSIONS:
    Wheelbase: 111.0 in
    Length: 196.2 in
    Width: 77.7 in Height: 67.4 in
    Passenger volume: 132 cu ft
    Cargo volume: 15 cu ft
    Curb weight: 4466 lb

    C/D TEST RESULTS:
    Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 15.5 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 32.1 sec
    Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.1 sec
    Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.6 sec
    Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.0 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 14.5 sec @ 97 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 133 mph
    Braking, 70-0 mph: 188 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g
    FUEL ECONOMY:
    EPA combined/city/highway: 27/26/27 mpg
    C/D observed: 22 mpg
    C/D observed 75-mph highway driving: 25 mpg
    C/D observed highway range: 480 mi

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2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid

In this SUV, Sport Hybrid is not a misnomer.

Nearly two decades after the Honda Insight introduced hybrids to America, the technology is still rare among crossovers. That could be because blending crossover and hybrid genes usually begets mediocrity. In exchange for a few more mpg, you get a heavier, lazier family hauler that’s no fun to drive. Credit Acura for upending that paradigm. The MDX Sport Hybrid SH-AWD tested here imbues Acura’s recently facelifted 3-row crossover with hybrid components similar to those from the NSX supercar, and the result is a breakthrough vehicle, one that actually deserves the Sport in its name.


A transversely mounted 3.0-liter V-6 rated at 257 horsepower powers this MDX’s front wheels through a 7-speed dual-clutch automatic. A 47-hp electric motor/generator geared to the transaxle assists by cranking the engine, providing supplemental thrust, and charging the 1.3-kWh lithium-ion battery pack located under the front seats. What Acura calls a Twin Motor Unit (TMU) lives between the rear wheels, kicking in another 72 horsepower on demand. Identical in most respects to the double-motor package that energizes the Acura NSX supercar’s front wheels, the TMU serves as a smart differential. During gentle launches, each motor drives one rear wheel while the engine naps. To augment cornering vigor, 1 motor powers the outside rear wheel while the other slows the inside, a clever version of torque vectoring. During those differential moments, the impeding motor sends electrical current to the battery pack. The lack of a driveshaft between the axles leaves ample room under the floor for a 72-cell battery pack and a power-control unit. The former is cooled by cabin air, the latter by circulating liquid. Thanks to careful packaging, the hybrid’s 15-cube cargo hold matches that of the front-drive, gas-only MDX, and there is only 1 cubic foot less of passenger volume.
This MDX Sport Hybrid tops both the conventional MDX and the Toyota Highlander hybrid in acceleration. It hustles to 60 mph from rest in 5.7 seconds, through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds, and to 100 mph in 15.5 seconds, beating the Highlander by 1.3, 0.9, and 1.7 seconds. The gaps between the hybrid and nonhybrid Acuras are narrower. While the Volvo XC90 T8 plug-in is quicker at low and medium velocities, the MDX hybrid takes the lead beyond 110 mph. (We haven’t recently tested the only other three-row hybrid crossover, the Infiniti QX60.)
Although it carries an additional 244 pounds compared with its nonhybrid sibling, the MDX hybrid stopped from 70 mph in the same 188 feet. While that’s reasonable for a 3-row crossover, it’s 5 feet longer than the Toyota and 12 feet longer than the Volvo. At least this hybrid’s brake pedal remains high and firm until the 3rd or 4th hard stop, when hints of fade intervene.







Cornering is where the MDX hybrid showed the biggest advantage over competitors. No doubt thanks to the electric torque vectoring and the handling-oriented suspension tuning, the MDX hybrid circled our skidpad at 0.87 g versus the Toyota’s 0.77 g, the Volvo’s 0.81 g, and the nonhybrid MDX’s 0.83 g. (The Toyota, the Volvo, and the nonhybrid MDX were inhibited by stability-control-system intervention.) Also to its credit, the Acura hybrid’s body roll and understeer characteristics approach those of a sports sedan. The electronically controlled variable dampers manage wheel and body motion without spoiling ride quality.
Complementing this MDX’s admirable performance stats is its total lack of hybrid antics. The gasoline engine and the electric motors join forces so willingly that the only clue something special is afoot is when the tachometer needle is resting on its 0-rpm peg and you’re moving. With a light touch on the accelerator, you can creep up to about 40 mph on pure electric propulsion. As high as 55 mph, the engine winks off during deceleration to save gas, restarting seamlessly. And during braking, where blending friction and regenerative deceleration challenges many hybrids, there’s no clue that this Acura is anything other than a conventional SUV.


With a starting price of $52,935 for the base Technology package model, the hybrid costs only $1500 more than an equivalent regular MDX with four-wheel drive (and $3500 more than a front-drive model). Aside from the improvements in acceleration and cornering ability, this choice also pencils out in terms of fuel efficiency. The MDX Sport Hybrid earned an EPA city rating of 26 mpg, topping the nonhybrid by 7 mpg, and a highway rating of 27 mpg, a gain of 1 mpg. By the EPA’s calculations, the difference in fuel costs for a year’s worth of driving is $350. That means the hybrid pays for its premium in 4.3 years of ownership (based on national-average fuel costs and 15,000 miles of driving per year).


Exterior acknowledgement of this MDX’s green lean is limited to a discreet hybrid badge on each front fender. Inside, a sporting theme prevails. The throttle, brake, and dead pedal are topped with bright metal plates, there are paddle shifters behind the grippy steering wheel, and the driver is offered a choice of four operating modes. In normal driving, second-gear starts save fuel. In Sport+, the shift schedule is more aggressive and the engine runs continually to fortify response.
Although impressive overall, this crossover misses the mark in a few areas. The electrically assisted power steering is too light and totally lacking in feedback. The front seat bolsters aren’t firm enough to support the driver’s thighs at the high cornering rates possible here. And we long for a summer-tire option (in lieu of the standard all-season rubber) to amplify this hybrid’s handling edge.


The 3rd-row seats are kid space due to their restricted access avenues and low bottom cushions that jack adult knees high in the air. Folding the rear-seat backrests boosts cargo volume from 15 to 38 cubic feet; sacrificing the 2nd row swells the hold to 68 cubic feet, not counting a handy underfloor bin at the extreme rear.
Our Advance package test car cost $58,975—$6040 more than the base Technology package MDX Sport Hybrid. Those prices include equipment that costs extra in competing SUVs. Both editions are equipped with 20-inch wheels and high-performance all-season tires, navigation, 3-zone automated climate control, a sunroof, adaptive cruise control with automatic emergency braking, lane-keeping assist, rain-sensing wipers, remote start, a premium sound system, and an array of traffic monitors. The Advance package adds 2nd-row captain’s chairs, surround-view cameras, parking sensors, perforated and heated leather upholstery, real ash wood trim, USB ports for 3rd-row users, front-seat ventilation, second-row sunshades, and other luxury touches.


What’s most encouraging about the new MDX hybrid is how it borrows technology from a $156,940 supercar to improve the efficiency and overall satisfaction of a mainstream crossover. We can only hope that other makers follow Acura’s fruitful path.

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Review: 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid is a smooth three-row marvel - Chicago Tribune

Review: 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid is a smooth 3-row marvel


Video of the seating configurations and dual-screen cockpit in the Advance package of the 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid, which is one of the smoothest hybrid systems we've tested.

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The last time I remember being impressed with Acura was my dad's Acura Legend in the late '80s. Recently, the ILX felt like a gussied up Honda Civic and the RDX drifted into that great homogenous pool known as the compact crossover. But the 2017 MDX Sport Hybrid earns the esteem — and premium — accorded to Honda's luxury brand.

Though the RDX had its best-selling year in 2016, the MDX led the brand and affirmed Acura's claim as the best-selling luxury three-row crossover, making it the most important car in the lineup. The Sport Hybrid makes the MDX even better.

The MDX was known for having a smooth and quiet ride, and the hybrid seems even more chill. It's the smoothest hybrid we've driven, with no noticeable transition of power from all-electric mode at low speed and light acceleration to hybrid engine and motor power at moderate speed. If it weren't for the power flow monitor on the top screen, it might not be noticed at all.




That seamless refinement comes from the 3-electric-motor system first used in the RLX hybrid sedan and NSX supercar. Acura's 1st hybrid SUV, the MDX uses a motor built into the 7-speed dual clutch transmission to supplement the 3-liter V-6 engine to boost output to the front wheels. Between the rear wheels is a twin-motor unit that acts as a differential to give power to the rear wheels. Total horsepower jumps from 290 in the gas model to 321 horsepower in the AWD hybrid. That rear-mounted position provides better weight balance between the axles for more spirited performance and better control.

It's still a heavy car, coming in at just under 4,500 pounds (the AWD MDX is 4,215). The hybrid element of its name should be emphasized more than the sport. And there's nothing wrong with that. Both front and rear motors recapture energy when coasting to power the batteries, and the rear motor unit is automatically decoupled in certain situations, such as highway cruising, to improve efficiency.

It's all very smart, and like most smart, good things it's only noticeable upon investigation. The 1.3-kWh lithium ion battery pack is mounted under the floor near the center of the car, lowering the center of gravity by an inch while maintaining the same ground clearance as the gas model. It has virtually the same cargo volume as the regular MDX, which is unusual for a hybrid and brilliant for a family vehicle.

We averaged over 27 mpg in our week with the trimmed-out tester, which is a whopping 5 mpg (or 23 percent) more than the gas model. And it costs only $1,500 more than the AWD V-6 engine with the same packages. Averaging 15,000 miles per year with gas at $2.50/gallon, we'd recoup the hybrid upcharge in less than 5 years.

Inside, the MDX Sport Hybrid has exclusive trim in the 2 highest package options. The tester had the most expensive Advance package, with wood accents between the soft black dash and the lower cream-colored parts that match the leather seats. The Advance package includes a 6-seat configuration with the midrow captain's chairs separated by a storage console with cup holder. Buttons and levers make getting and out of the rear seats easy, but this is no place for teens or adults.The low roofline with the third row over the rear axle and its motor components means there is absolutely no headroom. At 5-foot-9 my head was against the roof even in a slouch. Slide the midrow seat back and I'm eating my knees. The regular MDX isn't much roomier. Up in the cockpit, the insistence on using a two-screen display takes away from the otherwise elegant interior finish. 2 screens are double the annoyance. The higher 1 recessed in the dash is for navigation and backup camera, while the lower 1 is a touch screen to control the top or for audio. Combining the 2 small screens into one larger screen like Volvo XC90 would really improve the center stack and overall integration.
Like Honda, Acura's advanced safety technology — known as Acurawatch, with adaptive cruise and other stuff — is better than its convenience technology, such as navigation and voice commands. The redundant steering controls are somewhat limited to the basic instrument cluster display, which is narrow. It's not as sharp as the rest of the car.

These are minor criticisms that could be easily remedied.

The MDX Sport Hybrid gives Acura a definitive edge over its immediate competitors, but also against the higher-priced German makes that are introducing more plug-in hybrids across the board. The balance of refined finishes, a soft highway ride and good fuel economy should help keep MDX on top of the 3-row luxury class and stand out like it once did.

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2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid AWD at a glance

Vehicle type: 3-row hybrid crossover

Base price: $58,000

As tested: $58,000 (excluding $975 delivery)

Mpg: 26 city, 27 highway

Engine: 3-liter V-6 gas engine with 3 electric motors

Transmission: 7-speed dual clutch in AWD

Parting shot: Elegant 3-row gets better with smooth hybrid system.

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I saw a review of the MDX-SH that compared it to 5 or 6 other SUVs, but now I can't find it. Did Google search, but cannot find that review
Anyone else recall it?
It compared all the SUVs by category, i.e., performance, interior, etc
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ok - I found it on page 3 of this thread

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2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid: Real-World Fuel Economy

By Joe Bruzek

June 27, 2017

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CARS.COM — The 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid isn't a hybrid solely focused on maximum miles per gallon, with a sport-injected hybrid system that takes inspiration from the Acura NSX supercar (and for the sake of accuracy, the less-exciting Acura RLX sedan where it debuted). Even so, the MDX Sport Hybrid's fuel economy increases a respectable amount compared with the regular MDX. I hit the streets on a 680-plus-mile road trip to see if the 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid is more sport or more hybrid.

Related: 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid Starts at $52,935

As a bonus, I separately took the MDX Sport Hybrid on the same fuel-economy loop as a 2017 Lexus RX 450h hybrid we tested earlier in the year to measure how the near-identically priced hybrid luxury SUVs compare at the pump. The as-tested MDX Sport Hybrid's price of $58,975 compared closely to the RX 450h's $57,274 price.

The MDX hybrid clicked off 27.8 mpg after driving 368.5 miles from the western suburbs of Chicago to Dayton, Ohio, in nearly traffic-free interstate driving averaging 57 mph. The 27.8 mpg is an average of the 29.3-mpg onboard trip computer readout and the 27.8 mpg fill-up calculation. On the return trip of 315.8 miles, the MDX hybrid returned a near-identical 27.9 mpg, which is right in line with its 27-mpg highway rating.

The electrified MDX Sport Hybrid — with its compact hybrid battery, 2 electric motors driving the back wheels and a 3rd electric motor attached to the new 7-speed dual clutch automatic transmission — is EPA-rated at 26/27/27 mpg city/highway/combined. It's a notable 29 percent increase from a typical MDX with all-wheel drive rated at 18/26/21 mpg (without the optional auto stop-start).

2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid;Cars.com photo by Joe Bruzek

The MDX hybrid's observed fuel economy stacks up well against its own ratings, but what about its chief competitor, the Lexus RX 450h? Cars.com's fuel-economy loop is a 120-mile jaunt across Chicagoland combining bumper-to-bumper traffic with highway cruising and shopping-center suburban sprawl. The RX 450h easily exceeded its EPA ratings on the loop with an impressive 35.7-mpg average. The MDX bettered its EPA ratings as well, returning 29.3 mpg, but came up considerably short compared with the RX. We didn't have the same conditions from test to test, however: 55 degrees for the RX versus 83 degrees for the MDX, and the RX's average speed was 32 mph compared with the MDX's 28 mph.

The RX hybrid is the SUV for those making a practical choice about fuel economy. Buying a luxury car isn't always about practicality, however, and what the numbers don't show is that I found the MDX Sport Hybrid to be a considerably more pleasant SUV to drive. Its adjustable ride-quality firmness, crisp shifts, on-demand power and hybrid system responsiveness are geared toward the driving experience and not simply pegging the gas-mileage indicator.

Keep an eye out for our 2017 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid review for more details on Acura's hybrid SUV's driving experience.


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This review has an interesting part where he says that brands buy their infotainment system during the development stage and are stuck with them for a while, which is why they go out-of-date and newer models (even cheaper ones like the Civic) will get better systems in the meantime:


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Interesting that he said the hybrid MDX is QUIETER than the regular MDX.My 2014 MDX has more road noise and thumps over coarse pavement than I would like.Has anyone driven and compared the two?
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I have only driven the Hybrid, but I can say it is the quietest car I have ever driven. Acoustic windows, but I would think Advance trim in regular MDX has same
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What's the payload capacity on th sport hybrid?
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not sure of capacity, but towing is NOT recommended

found it - ~1500 lbs, same as regular MDX

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/compar...#section-specs

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not sure of capacity, but towing is NOT recommended

found it - ~1500 lbs, same as regular MDX

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/compar...#section-specs
Thanks, I saw that no amount of towing is recommended. But wanted to be sure I don't go over the payload and overrun/heat the hybrid components. I'm just it'll fit six 200 lb adults and a few things in the trunk just fine for example...of course I don't have a family of 6 of 200 lbs or more. That's a no no in my book.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshmax/2018/04/19/road-testing-three-new-suvs-back-to-back-2018-acura-mdx-buick-enclave-and-volvo-xc60/#512d5dee602b

Road-Testing 3 New SUVS Back-To-Back - 2018 Acura MDX, Buick Enclave And Volvo XC60

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Everyone's bananas about SUVs these days; sales which have shot up 20.5% for the first quarter of 2018. We thought we'd get behind the wheel of 3 new ones, beat 'em up and tell you which are worth your time and dollars. The rides are all different from each other in different ways, and we have different huzzahs and raspberries. Read on.

2018 Acura MDX MSRP: $45,195It's America's best-selling 3-Row Luxury SUV with good reason. It's great-looking – our tester was a particularly fetching eggplant purple - and the restyled grille (as of 2017) makes a sharp car even sharper. But what sets it apart for 2018 is its new tech features and updated infotainment system in addition to its library-quiet interior. Its new infotainment system is happily self-explanatory, and it took us almost no time to get the phone synced, the radio station where we wanted it and the climate system adjusted.The new system supports Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity. Five trims are for sale, with stickers coming in around $60,000 for an all-wheel-drive model with Advance and Entertainment packages, while the Sport Hybrid model starts around $59,000. It doesn't come with a diesel engine unlike some similarly outfitted trims.Its V-6, 290 horsepower engine is pleasingly strong, though not as mighty-mighty as others in this class, but its 9-speed automatic transmission is butter-smooth. Our only real gripe is the push-button gearshift which, though we got a succinct explanation from the manufacturer about why it's a good thing, bugged us start to finish. Though it's a full-sized vehicle, it never felt boatish around corners or when parking. We also found the suspension pleasing, particularly when banging into potholes or fording rough roads. Safety-wise, there's a standard system in place called AcuraWatch which delivers the driver a lane-keeping system, emergency braking, road departure mitigation and adaptive cruise control. This'll close the deal if you're looking for a strong, safe, stylish luxury SUV.

2018 Buick Enclave Avenir $43,570Long have the Americans taken it on the chin when car enthusiasts compare their products to their often better-designed rival Europeans. But we found the all-new for 2018 Enclave a suprisingly fun, not-bad-looking and worthy ride over a week's test, even though it has just one engine to choose from, a 302 horsepower, 3.6 litre job with 260 lb-ft of torque. The luxe flavor is well-repped within with ultra-comfy seats, ease of features and a commanding feel of the road when you're behind the wheel, unlike the mushy feel of some vehicles of this sort. A smart black crosshatch mesh arrangement replaces Buick's ancient chrome vertical bars on the vehicle's snout, positioned in the middle of a snappy five-sided grille with new, powerful fog lights topping off the look. We weren't sure about the chrome trim running the length of the vehicle; it reminded us of our '68 Fairlane whose trim over time came loose and flipped and flopped before falling off altogether. Also, someone decided the famous “floating roof” would work here; they are a fad whose time came via Ford's Flex and Mini Cooper, and if the trend faded, we wouldn't complain.But inside? It's glorious, with an ebony and chestnut-festooned cockpit and a near-football field amount of space in the rear; it almost felt like an RV. Yet it avoids the square, minivannish effect that American automakers have suffered from for so long.Your second row has a step-through in the middle and a right seat that flips forward so you can better access the rear, even with a tyke's car seat installed. If the third row isn't needed for passengers, you can slide the second-row captain's chairs forward or backward.One notable $2,300 option is a switchable all-wheel-drive system, using a dash-mounted button to activate the twin-clutch rear differential for power distribution that'll come in handy in inclement weather. Otherwise, front-wheel-drive is the only option on the base model. Best of all? It's stop-start system at red and green lights is smooth as a cat padding across a floor. Indeed, a sound-deadening system's in place to make startup as well as the ride sedate, peaceful and truly earning the “luxury” badge. 0-60 is accomplished in a not-bad 6.4 seconds. All Avenirs get adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, a lane keeping system, a 360-degree camera and 17 sensors. The drive, while uneventful, was nevertheless a total pleasure start to finish; you're not looking for sheer ferocity. But in this case, that's a good thing.

2018 Volvo XC60 $41,500


Volvo continues to enjoy a sterling reputation as one of the safest vehicles on the road in the event of a crash, and the redesigned 2018 XC60's no exception. Its interior space, quietness of cabin and plush appointments are a welcome improvement from the outgoing model, and a week's test was pure Scandinavian pleasure. The XC60 is the mini-me version of Volvo's bigger, more expensive XC90, but we actually prefer the XC60s compact flavor, its ability to get a move on when needed, and feeling as though we're riding in a machine loaded with state-of-the-art tech.But about that tech – the infotainment system, in this case. It's needlessly complicated. Yes, one can learn it and get used to it (we did) but it seems many actions require two or more pre-actions to get where you wish to go or do what you wish to do. We were also a bit startled to discover that, aside from its automatic emergency braking system, its other vital safety features like a blind-spot warning and rear cross-traffic warning are options. Finally, it's a smooth ride when you've got a smooth road, but, oh those bumps and divots; up the spine they go. On the plus side, the handling's far better than the outgoing model and you're well-powered via a 2.0-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder engine producing 250 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. You can opt for a 313-hp version called the T6 as well as a plug-in hybrid trim with a blistering 400 horses. We'd love to test that one out.Another improvement is the roomier rear, allowing you to fit five full-grown adults in the car as opposed to four adults and a gallon of milk. But your main source of pleasure is likely to be the finely appointed interior, which is comparible to any German machine you can name in terms of upscale comfort. Outside of the endless swiping, tapping and occasional head-scratching required to operate the infotainment system, the XC60's a winner.
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Eggplant purple? Where'd he get that color?
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