t3hhcaptain

Since there are virtually no posts on the st suspensions sway bar... here goes:

I installed the ST Suspensions 19mm sway bar yesterday. I immediately went out to test the product and from what I can tell it is a nice moderate upgrade. I imagine the larger adjustable progress bar is a bigger upgrade. The reason I didn't want to go with it is because I wasn't looking for anything adjustable and did not want to do a mod that was irreversible.

The most noticeable improvement with the 19mm bar is the car feels better planted when coming in hot to a turn.

Installation was a breeze... I ordered the bar from Heeltoe and it came with the bar, Teflon taped bushings, brackets, four nuts and four washers. The instructions from ST Suspensions state to reuse the original mounting brackets so at first I was confused why it came with new brackets, but after trying the factory brackets on they were a bit loose around the bushing so I used the included ones. The most challenging part of installing it was soaking the endlinks with enough PBlaster to get the nut off without having to drill them out. I also took the rear of the exhaust off the hangers to make getting the sway bar out easier.

Overall if you're looking for a "sport package" or oem+ kind of upgrade and don't want to enlarge the mounting holes, I'll give a thumbs up to the st suspensions bar.

BROlando

Cool. How big is the stock bar? I'm assuming both bars are solid in terms of actual construction? Or is one hollow?

t3hhcaptain

I believe the stock bar is 17mm. I'm not sure if one is hollow or not, but the suspension techniques bar is solid cold formed powder coated steel.

MrHeeltoe

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Nice review! You might consider reviewing the item on the Heeltoe site as well.

justnspace

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Solid 17mm on the 2nd gen TSX

t3hhcaptain

Torn bushing
So the passenger side bushing has torn already. The driver side bushing has no obvious signs of tearing. I've got an open ticket with Heeltoe auto about a warranty claim. They requested pictures and I submitted them yesterday.

We will see how the warranty process goes and if the new bushing tears as well.

Sheefo2k

Another item on my to do list. Please, keep us posted on the torn bushing problem.

t3hhcaptain

Suspension techniques is sending me a replacement bushing. Will update when it is in and if it tears again.

justnspace

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good thing it isnt a bracket to the subframe tear.

rubber bushings will fail over time, anyway.

t3hhcaptain

This failed a little early at less than a month, but definitely good it isn't bracket to subframe lol.

justnspace

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Good guy, Suspension Techniques sending you replacement!

BROlando

Someone else had problems with ST swaybar bushings.

I'd probably want an OEM bushing for a 19mm bar. But...which Honda had a 19mm bar...

t3hhcaptain

I remember reading another thread about the bushings, too.

OEM bushings would be great but, yeah, I don't know if anything had them. It definitely wasn't the S2000.

BROlando

Heck no. S2000 swaybars are SIZEABLE, bruv.

notalk

That was me. https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...advice-957902/

ST sent me the new brackets/hardware (thanks to this thread or I'd never have known) and the clunk is gone. Interesting in that the original bushing which fell apart was all rubber, but the other original bushing was the new teflon-lined bushing. They sent me one old and one new with my bar. Then, they sent two new as replacements, but not the new hardware. (My clunk was the new bushing in the old bracket; not quite a perfect fit.)

Anyway, I think the CL's had 19mm rear bars and possibly another earlier Acura. I searched going back through when I thought the solution was an OEM rubber 19mm bushing. Hoping the teflon-lined bushings hold up. If mine fail, I'll probably go to a poly just for strength/longevity if no other reason.

Sheefo2k

Glad to see this taken care.
Can any vendor confirm if new ST swaybar come with the correct hardware? Bushings and corresponding brackets?

t3hhcaptain

When I ordered from Heeltoe it came with the correct hardware.

Sheefo2k

I am now confused, if yours came with the correct hardware, how come the bushings failed?

justnspace

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rubber can fail; more of a QC (quality control) problem.
however, ST took care of it's customer and sent a new, presumably, better quailty rubber bushing

t3hhcaptain

Defective part? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What justnspace said.

justnspace

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it's not likely they make the rubber bushings themselves and would have to outsource a rubber bushing manufacture. with rubber, there are many different compounds and mixtures to create what you see as a bushing. like concrete, if the mixture isnt right, you will get a bad product

but it was simple to revise. as seen by the fast communication between customer and ST

Sheefo2k

I am back on track. You regained my faith in Suspension Technique ST. I am planning on buying the sway bar and the coilovers over winter for an early summer install.

Itr0059

I install a oem Acura tl awd 20mm rsb on mine

Itr0059

Hard to beat the price tag !

justnspace

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i wonder if the 25.4mm TLX RSB would bolt up

Itr0059

Maybe but it would be off balance
without doing front also and a possibility to shred the mounting point anything over 20/22mm


Ur talking about a family sedan after all ;Cu2 are not a sports cars!

justnspace

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i agree with it being off balanced, with it being more rear biased...lift off oversteer!! YAY!!

but i disagree with your 2nd statement...the TLX is not a sports car either...and it came stock with 25.4mm bars!
i'm also rocking 24mm progressive bar on my TL.
and I did not rip subframe mounting points either.
and the CU2 is based loosely off the TL

Itr0059

TLX and TL are engineer with bigger swaybar to begin with; not the Cu2 . Best exemple is the old TypeR vs regular Integra ; guys were ripping subframe left and right ! Personnaly i wouldn't risk it ! But i see your point also ....😁

Jaheri_cbp

I have had the progress 22mm bar on my car for more than 3 years, tracked it, hooned the living piss out of it, put about 100k miles on it, and bushings and subframe are still ok, finally just ordered new progress bushings and moog greasables and really just as a preventative cuz miles and slightly loose feel, still no squeaks and rattles from the rear though.