Staggered Wheels & Tire Rotations
03-20-2012, 02:59 PM
#1
Staggered Wheels & Tire Rotations
Now i know with staggered wheels, you can't do a tire rotation front to back... only side to side...
im getting rims with 48mm offset front 32mm offset back... so that they are flush... they will only be on in the warmer seasons, as my stock rims and tires will go back for the colder seasons (though the car is my daily driver).... should i worry about the quicker wear of the tires because i cant rotate them front to back?
hows the wear especially in the front (FWD) for everyone with staggered wheels. Let me know. Just afraid of shelling out money alot quicker for tires in the future.
im getting rims with 48mm offset front 32mm offset back... so that they are flush... they will only be on in the warmer seasons, as my stock rims and tires will go back for the colder seasons (though the car is my daily driver).... should i worry about the quicker wear of the tires because i cant rotate them front to back?
hows the wear especially in the front (FWD) for everyone with staggered wheels. Let me know. Just afraid of shelling out money alot quicker for tires in the future.
Last edited by GameOver69; 03-20-2012 at 03:02 PM.
03-20-2012, 03:12 PM
#2
Burning Brakes
If you get directional tires, you can't rotate side to side either. From my experience running a staggered set, depending on how you drive and with a good alignment, the non-drive tires don't wear that much at all, but it's going to vary on a case by case basis.
03-20-2012, 03:45 PM
#4
to be on the safe side i just changed my order to 48mm all around... tires are to expensive to be replacing more often than needed.
how bad will the difference look from front to back.. i know the diff is 16mm... but how noticeable is it?
how bad will the difference look from front to back.. i know the diff is 16mm... but how noticeable is it?
03-20-2012, 04:05 PM
#5
Burning Brakes
Get some good 15mm spacers with extended studs in the rear then. H&R, Eibach, Ichiba, etc.
03-20-2012, 04:05 PM
#6
SeeYou2Crew #2
you can always get a 15mm spacer in the back 
then everytime you rotate tires you can just keep the spacer in the back, then your back and front will be flush while staying nonstagered!
then everytime you rotate tires you can just keep the spacer in the back, then your back and front will be flush while staying nonstagered!
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03-20-2012, 04:14 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
03-20-2012, 04:17 PM
#10
i did, im sorry i wasnt more specific. i guess i was asking for specific links...
i have looked online and can only find 04-08 tsx spacers... especially from the brands you listed in post 5... other than that i see universal spacers..
if anyone can help me out id appreciate it. Trying to get everything done so i can have it all installed sometime next week!
i have looked online and can only find 04-08 tsx spacers... especially from the brands you listed in post 5... other than that i see universal spacers..
if anyone can help me out id appreciate it. Trying to get everything done so i can have it all installed sometime next week!
Last edited by GameOver69; 03-20-2012 at 04:27 PM.
03-20-2012, 05:00 PM
#11
Three Wheelin'
here are some ichiba spacer
http://www.ichibausa.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1757
i dont know why it says bolt pattern 5x120 tho
http://www.ichibausa.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1757
i dont know why it says bolt pattern 5x120 tho
Last edited by tobwac; 03-20-2012 at 05:07 PM.
03-20-2012, 05:53 PM
#13
Pro
Good thinking! 15mm spacers will do the job to sit you flush.
Id run Ichibas. ran them on my STi wl no issues. But any of those name brand listed above will work with extended studs.
Id run Ichibas. ran them on my STi wl no issues. But any of those name brand listed above will work with extended studs.
03-20-2012, 07:38 PM
#14
03-20-2012, 07:42 PM
#15
here are some ichiba spacer
http://www.ichibausa.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1757
i dont know why it says bolt pattern 5x120 tho
http://www.ichibausa.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1757
i dont know why it says bolt pattern 5x120 tho
03-20-2012, 08:07 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
All spacers are universal in a way, you just need spacers that match the TSX's specs.
Hub bore 64.1
Bolt pattern 5 x 114.3
Thread 12 x 1.5
Looks like only H&R and Ichiba have 15 mm spacers with the correct specs. Ichiba V1 are just spacers that fit over your stock studs, and if you are going to use 15 mm spacers, it is highly recommended that you replace the stock studs with longer studs (these are usually included with the spacers) so that there are enough threads to secure your lugs. V2s are "plug n play" spacers that have built in studs, so you don't have to replace your existing studs, you bolt the spacer onto your hub and it has its own studs you then secure your wheels onto.
Diagrams are here:
http://www.ichibausa.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=37
H&R 15 mm spacers, as far as I know, only come with the extended stud option, not built in.
Hub bore 64.1
Bolt pattern 5 x 114.3
Thread 12 x 1.5
Looks like only H&R and Ichiba have 15 mm spacers with the correct specs. Ichiba V1 are just spacers that fit over your stock studs, and if you are going to use 15 mm spacers, it is highly recommended that you replace the stock studs with longer studs (these are usually included with the spacers) so that there are enough threads to secure your lugs. V2s are "plug n play" spacers that have built in studs, so you don't have to replace your existing studs, you bolt the spacer onto your hub and it has its own studs you then secure your wheels onto.
Diagrams are here:
http://www.ichibausa.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=37
H&R 15 mm spacers, as far as I know, only come with the extended stud option, not built in.
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03-20-2012, 08:10 PM
#17
Pro
Thats for our bolt pattern.
V1 are the spacers and extended studs,
V2 are wl the Studs pressed into the spacer already.
Id rather pay an extra $20 per pair than have to go through the trouble of installing extended studs
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03-20-2012, 10:07 PM
#18
Thanks for the answers guys... helps a lot. Just a few more questions before I purchase the one set I need.
The link that Moaar posted shows the proper specs that puppet listed but yet the site states its for the 1st Gen tax. Will there be any issues with our 2nd Gen?
Also the pricing for the spacers.. are they usually what they go for?
Thanks!
The link that Moaar posted shows the proper specs that puppet listed but yet the site states its for the 1st Gen tax. Will there be any issues with our 2nd Gen?
Also the pricing for the spacers.. are they usually what they go for?
Thanks!
Last edited by GameOver69; 03-20-2012 at 10:10 PM.
03-24-2012, 08:25 AM
#21
Hard to say. Adding spacers can always amplify a pre-existing issue and pushing the wheels out theoretically adds stress to suspension components. On the other hand, I think you are only planning on using these in the rear so you should be OK.
I would, however, caution against rotating staggered wheels (even with the same tire size) as the handling dynamics will change with every rotation.
If you decide to get other spacers than the ones you linked to, always make sure that they are hubcentric.
I would, however, caution against rotating staggered wheels (even with the same tire size) as the handling dynamics will change with every rotation.
If you decide to get other spacers than the ones you linked to, always make sure that they are hubcentric.
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03-24-2012, 08:47 AM
#22
Hard to say. Adding spacers can always amplify a pre-existing issue and pushing the wheels out theoretically adds stress to suspension components. On the other hand, I think you are only planning on using these in the rear so you should be OK.
I would, however, caution against rotating staggered wheels (even with the same tire size) as the handling dynamics will change with every rotation.
If you decide to get other spacers than the ones you linked to, always make sure that they are hubcentric.
I would, however, caution against rotating staggered wheels (even with the same tire size) as the handling dynamics will change with every rotation.
If you decide to get other spacers than the ones you linked to, always make sure that they are hubcentric.
i would like to purchase soon as my new rims should be ready next week, and would like to be prepared.
03-24-2012, 10:43 AM
#23
Whenever you use spacers or hubcentric rings, it is very important that you insure that the wheels are torqued properly and in the right sequence to prevent any balancing issues.
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