Euro Sports Suspension
 

Finally installed the sports suspension today. Quite happy with the result.


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Package weighs about 50lbs
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Showa is the Honda supplier (famous for bikes dampers)
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Front drop 0.8"
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Rear drop 1.1"
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Another rear shot
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Final- will take better photos next week once I install new 19" wheels and tyres

Very nice, how's the ride? Did you install them yourself?

Acura of Langley installed them for me, neither have time nor patience to do it. The techs were quite excited to install them as they have only installed aspec suspension on TL's.

Just a short 10 km ride home, very happy with it as the rear no longer bounce around.:thumbsup:

Where did you buy it?

Lings UK US$1000 including s/h, duties and taxes to Canada.

hows the camber?

Not bad, LR is -3.0 RR is -2.6 (spec-1.5 to-0.5), the front are OK.

Let us know if your handling (especially turns) is improved with this suspension.

Very cool kit, I like that it's assembled and cake to install without losing a thumb or breaking one's elbow with a Mickey Mouse spring compressor. $1000.00 is kinda expensive, compared to Koni's at like $600 (when they're available) and Eibachs at ~$300 *but* I've installed the sports setup and it's a killer compromise for stock vs aftermarket. I totally dig them. =)

Thanks, after installing both Jackson Racing and Eibach on my 90 Si, swear never again. :annoyed:

Yes, I liked the sports setup also, drove over 100km to and from work today, ride is a lot firmer but not harsh. Pushed it to 85mph on highway and did a number of quick lane change, car remain compose. The turns are much sharper too, so I am one happy camper. :thumbsup:

Thanks for this info. I had my alignment done today and my LR was -2.7 RR -2.5 which is obviously out of spec, but I wasn't sure if that was bad or not.

Looks great. I wish that is was available here in the U.S. I don`t think that they sold that set up on many of the other cars in the past. Maybe that is why they don`t offer it anymore.

what's the item number on lings? thanks =) are these the same?

http://www.honda.co.jp/ACCESS/accord...ports-sus.html

For 6MT part # 08W60-TL3-600A
For 5AT part # 08W60-TL3-600B

I think the Japanese website ones are the same as Europe, although mine is all black and the Japanese is red and white. They both state 20mm drop.

I just ordered a set of these from Lings for my 2010. They confirmation I received did not say anything about delivery time, how long did it take for you to get yours order? Also do you have any idea how long it took your local dealer to nstall them? Thanks

You will receive an email tomorrow informing you of shipping cost. The default charge for overseas is GBP 40. Depending on your address, it cost upto GBP 200 or US$300. After you confirm and pay for the additional shipping charge, then they will ship by UPS (4 days). The whole process took 9 days for me.

Took dealer 2 hours for installation.

That is a big delivery charge, wonder if some cost can be taken out for slower delivery? Are you still happy with the setup, any surprises?

Did you ever put on the 19" wheels, like to see the pics?

Unfortunately, they don't use surface mail (by sea). The box is over 50lbs. My cost to Canada was GBP 145 or US$240. That's why I mentioned above the total cost being around $1000.

Absolutely loving the setup, the car is much more stable especially around corners.

My 19" wheel photos are posted on the photogragh gallery https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-photograph-gallery-144/cbp-w-rage-wheels-741358/

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Guess a truck wouldn't do to well crossing the Atlantic. I'm in CA so my cost should be similar to yours, but have not received the shipping message yet. Your wheels/car looks great! I'm thinking about going with the Acura accessorie 18" ebony wheels but the price is killing me! Yours look similar to that, what brand, size / offset are they?

Hey just got to your photos and your wheel info. I like your plan, there are a lot of cool accessories in the EU & Japan for the TSX / Accord, cost and lead time are such a pain. Again it looks GREAT!

Since these are OEM parts is warranty still fully in place with this suspension?

Yes, that's one of the reason I chose this setup and like HD said above it offer the best compromise between stock and aftermarket setup.

Are you on the lowest drop settings or can you go lower? & which gives more a drop, these or tein ss? I like how the warranty is still on with these

looks good!

Unlike Tein SS, they are not adjustable. The drop is between 0.8" to 1.0".

As for warranty, it's Honda parts that is in use for European Accord as standard equipment. My Acura dealer has no problem installing them and they won't void my warranty because they are OEM.

In the US we have a law that prevents dealers and car makers from voiding warranty due to installation of aftermarket or non stock parts. Check out the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act US Code Title 15 Chapter 50 section 2302". I actually got this information from Acura customer service because a local dealer had told me that even these Honda parts would void the suspension warranty... we got him straightened out :-) By the way my Euro Suspension Kit is due to arrive Oct 16.

This is very true, knowledge is power. The regional warranty manager (whatever the title is) can and will give push back to varying degrees hoping you'll go away due to a popular misconception about aftermarket parts voiding a warranty in total.

To take it a step further, I have personally witnessed cases of known issues (rear diff in an S2000 for instance) being denied warranty claim on account of the presence of timeslips being left in the glovebox. Duh. :whyme:

Same might go for dyno charts being left in the car or posted online.

I know of another example where a legitimate warranty claim on an engine was denied because the person's track time on a 'SCCA style' autocross club was posted on their site. :what:

So...arm yourself with info, but do your due dilligence to reduce the likelihood of being denied. You may be in the right, but it could end up costing you more than the repair in attorney's fees to be declared right.

he's over reacting. if the car is not slammed your toe wasn't thrown that much out of wack. You're not going to ruin it driving it to and from work etc. Just dont' drive it like a bat out of hell untill it is alligned.

It'd be better to have the alignment sooner, but not end of the world kinda stuff. Do you have aftermarket wheels (or diifferent wheels) going on? If so, put your stockies on for the week, then take the others with you and install them at the alignment shop.

A more drastic drop could cause issues and quickly, too. If you don't have other wheels, then have the alignment dude do a rotation when you have the alignment done. That way any accelerated wear from toe-out on the fronts as a result of the lowering will then be on the rear and will work itself out.

He doesn't want to do an alignment and have you pissed because the alignment can be perfect, but with drastic wear on the tires, it will bump steer or just generally pull & drive like crap.

[quote=HeavyDuty;11433459]It'd be better to have the alignment sooner, but not end of the world kinda stuff. Do you have aftermarket wheels (or diifferent wheels) going on? If so, put your stockies on for the week, then take the others with you and install them at the alignment shop.

Sold my stock wheels; so will tread lightly on my new stuff till alignment. The guy I'm installing with has done this a few times and says we can set the alignment pretty close today. Your advise about rotating tires is good, I plan to do it.

I'll probably get flogged for this, but even doing an alignment with a tape measure after a spring install can get it close and is better than nothing. =)

I am going to resurect this thread......

Does anybody have a side shot of this setup with the same size tires all around. I want to get an idea of the drop. It looks like in these pictures that the rear was lowered more than the front. Is this the case?

Yes, the rear is lower than the front with the Euro suspension. You will notice the same with the stock suspension setup. I am fine with that as you should have more room for suspension travel in the front for steering as well as weight transfer under braking.

You can go with Tein H tech, then you will have a 1.57" front drop and 1.38" in the rear which balance things out. Here's a couple photo from Tein site:
http://www.tein.com/tech_info/img/ab902.jpg
http://www.tein.com/tech_info/img/ab903.jpg

do you have pics of the side profile of the sports suspension.

This is the closest side shot I've got. Otherwise, I will take somemore on the weekend.

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How do you like the feel of the Showa dampers? Does it ride smooth?

I thoroughly enjoy the Showa dampers. Compare to the stock dual mode dampers (which is also Showa), it's less bouncy.

You feel more of the bumps on the road, but it's definitely not harsh. It certainly improved the ride and handling even with the stock 17" with Michelins. With the 19" and grippy Yokohama's, I can do quick lane change even in the century speed mark with confidences.

Very nice set up you have.