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This problem has happen to me a lot of times like when it's raining or when it's not but it still come on and stays on for Awhile then it just turns off like it fix it self or something.
It happened to me maybe 3-4 times in the past year during rainy days but I still havent figured out whats happening. It tells me the same thing as you and about 20 mins later they're fine
How old are your TPMS sensors? Could be dying batteries in the sensors. Just replaced two in my daughter's 07 CR-V, althought the TPMS light was constantly light.
Is this while you're driving or at home? Do you have another set of wheels with TPMS in them, or simply another set of TPMS laying around? What does the PSI read when the light is on (i.e., is one of the tires reading 0 PSI, or is one just reading low)?
No it's probably not the batteries... I had the same problem and the dealer replaced all the batteries. It came back like 5 days later same error. It's some kind of interference preventing the car from getting the data from the sensors.
No it's probably not the batteries... I had the same problem and the dealer replaced all the batteries. It came back like 5 days later same error. It's some kind of interference preventing the car from getting the data from the sensors.
Are you still dealing with this issue or did the dealer resolve it?
No it's probably not the batteries... I had the same problem and the dealer replaced all the batteries. It came back like 5 days later same error. It's some kind of interference preventing the car from getting the data from the sensors.
Gee. I wonder how the dealer replaced the batteries....
Are you still dealing with this issue or did the dealer resolve it?
it's still ongoing. randomly happens. I took it in several times but it's just pointless really. It's obviously some design fail with these sensors.
Originally Posted by ceb
Gee. I wonder how the dealer replaced the batteries....
Not sure what you mean? I would guess they unmounted the tire and opened up the tpms to put in new batteries? (or maybe just replaced them?) but what does that have to do with the problem?
1) Batteries are not replaceable. They would need to replace the entire sensor. They would not do that (under warranty that is...) unless they are sure the sensor is defective (or low batt if less than than 5-6 years old).
2) When "check TPMS comes" up, there are associated codes. The dealer (as any other shop or person with the right tool) can read the codes.
2.1) There is actually a "low battery" code. In our car, the system would indicate which sensor has a low battery. You can also trigger each sensor with the toll and get a battery status report.
3) Some phone chargers will generate interference that would... interfere with the TPMS. Solution is to get a different charger, preferably a name brand one. I had luck with an original blackberry charger (no more TPMS error).
Yeah i knew about the phone charger thing.... but i only have ONE charger in my car and it's the official samsung one. I doubt that causes any issues.
Didn't know there were codes though, i will read them next time it comes up... i usually have my obd reader on me.
I think it's something besides the phone charger. I have noticed there is a certain road and when i pass this one traffic light the TPMS failure will USUALLY come up. like 90% of the time.
Also during the winter time (30 degree days) I got the error way more frequently.
it's still ongoing. randomly happens. I took it in several times but it's just pointless really. It's obviously some design fail with these sensors.
Not sure what you mean? I would guess they unmounted the tire and opened up the tpms to put in new batteries? (or maybe just replaced them?) but what does that have to do with the problem?
If the sensors fail at a certain location (mine would sometimes show an error message at the same place on my commute) then it may be an environmental issue. If you are running the OE wheels and sensors (including the OE plastic caps) then have the dealer fix it.
The units are sealed. If a dealer said "I changed the batteries" then the dealer lied.
Yeah i knew about the phone charger thing.... but i only have ONE charger in my car and it's the official samsung one. I doubt that causes any issues.
Didn't know there were codes though, i will read them next time it comes up... i usually have my obd reader on me.
I think it's something besides the phone charger. I have noticed there is a certain road and when i pass this one traffic light the TPMS failure will USUALLY come up. like 90% of the time.
Also during the winter time (30 degree days) I got the error way more frequently.
You need a TPMS tool to read the codes (the OBD tool does not work).
I would suggest to try unplugging the charger fore a couple of days and see if the "check TPMS system" would still come up.
In my case, the error would come up almost on the same road/area. I suspect interference with the charger that is amplified by something else in the area, which would result in the signal being compromised... At the end, the phone charger was the culprit.
Could you ask the dealer for a list of the codes they read?
You need a TPMS tool to read the codes (the OBD tool does not work).
I would suggest to try unplugging the charger fore a couple of days and see if the "check TPMS system" would still come up.
In my case, the error would come up almost on the same road/area. I suspect interference with the charger that is amplified by something else in the area, which would result in the signal being compromised... At the end, the phone charger was the culprit.
Could you ask the dealer for a list of the codes they read?
It was about a year ago so i doubt they have record of the codes they read... maybe it's on the sheet they gave me. I'll have to check.
The TPMS units in the wheels are transmitters. They transmit to a receiver located in the car. Various environmental issues (badly shielded electronic devices, strong transmitters that leak into that frequency and the like) can cause issues.
A few tips for troubleshooting:
Remove all chargers, GPS devices and the like from the car.
Remove any other TPMS sensors from the car (one guy I knew had sensors from an old wheel rolling around his glovebox.
Determine what electronics are in the area of the failure (traffic lights, door openers etc.)
I solved my problem when I changed my commute. Your solution may be just as easy - move to a new house.
Remove all chargers, GPS devices and the like from the car.
Remove any other TPMS sensors from the car (one guy I knew had sensors from an old wheel rolling around his glovebox.
Determine what electronics are in the area of the failure (traffic lights, door openers etc.)
I solved my problem when I changed my commute. Your solution may be just as easy - move to a new house.
I especially like the new house idea as a possible solution -
I had this problem before. It would just come one and off. Took it to the dealer and it ended up being a bad tpms sensor. It's been fine since the replaced it.
Happened to me last weekend, came on twice while driving about 250 miles. Ive read that the batteries tend to start going after about 5 years time, which is just about where I'm at.
Interesting thing about the car charger, I'll see if that has any impact on mine.
Happened to me last weekend, came on twice while driving about 250 miles. Ive read that the batteries tend to start going after about 5 years time, which is just about where I'm at.
Interesting thing about the car charger, I'll see if that has any impact on mine.
Five years is a bit pessimistic. VW and BMW estimate a lifespan of seven to ten years. I would assume that Acura/Honda does the same.
Five years is a bit pessimistic. VW and BMW estimate a lifespan of seven to ten years. I would assume that Acura/Honda does the same.
I would agree and can present the following real word data -
I bought used TPMS sensors for my A-Specs in 2006. They all still work today but don't know how old/used they were when I got them. At the very least they are 8.5-9 years old.
07 ES350 All original sensors still working.
07 CR-V. Replaced two so far.
08 TL-S All original sensors still working
09 Accord - All original sensors still working.
You need to read the codes stored to figure out why the "check TPMS" came on. It could be a lowbat in one of more of the sensors, but also could be caused by "signal interference" (there is a specific code for this). Or a combination of the above, plus other issues.
From personal experience, some poorly shielded USB chargers will interfere with the signal and cause the "check TPMS" to come one.
You need to read the codes stored to figure out why the "check TPMS" came on. It could be a lowbat in one of more of the sensors, but also could be caused by "signal interference" (there is a specific code for this). Or a combination of the above, plus other issues.
From personal experience, some poorly shielded USB chargers will interfere with the signal and cause the "check TPMS" to come one.
I think he can only view these error codes at the Acura dealership. Is there another way to view them?
I think he can only view these error codes at the Acura dealership. Is there another way to view them?
Standard OBD tools cannot read the TPMS codes, but any tire shop can read them with a TPMS tool (I have the Autel TS501 that works). Not required to visit the dealer for this.