Balky Manual Transmission
#1
Balky Manual Transmission
My 2010 TSX has almost 118k miles, and the 6MT is the best manual transmission I've owned, by far. But over the past few weeks, shifting has become very difficult at times, especially going into first, second, and reverse. Initially, it seemed shift quality was improving after warmup, but today it remained balky after driving for awhile in relatively warm temperatures, and it seems to be getting worse. (It also seems like I have to depress the clutch further to shift than before, but I'm less sure about that.)
Could this just require new transmission fluid, or is this more likely to be something more serious -- and expensive? I was hoping to keep the TSX through the summer to teach my daughters how to drive manuals (one has some manual experience), and then replace it with something that has MT and modern safety tech like a GTI or Accord Sport. I was hoping to avoid dumping money into the TSX before replacing it, but looks like that might not work.
Could this just require new transmission fluid, or is this more likely to be something more serious -- and expensive? I was hoping to keep the TSX through the summer to teach my daughters how to drive manuals (one has some manual experience), and then replace it with something that has MT and modern safety tech like a GTI or Accord Sport. I was hoping to avoid dumping money into the TSX before replacing it, but looks like that might not work.
#2
Frequently, difficulty in shifting into gear results from dragging clutch. If shifting into high gear and then to low gear eases problem, a dragging clutch is indicated.
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My 2010 TSX has almost 118k miles, and the 6MT is the best manual transmission I've owned, by far. But over the past few weeks, shifting has become very difficult at times, especially going into first, second, and reverse. Initially, it seemed shift quality was improving after warmup, but today it remained balky after driving for awhile in relatively warm temperatures, and it seems to be getting worse. (It also seems like I have to depress the clutch further to shift than before, but I'm less sure about that.)
Could this just require new transmission fluid, or is this more likely to be something more serious -- and expensive? I was hoping to keep the TSX through the summer to teach my daughters how to drive manuals (one has some manual experience), and then replace it with something that has MT and modern safety tech like a GTI or Accord Sport. I was hoping to avoid dumping money into the TSX before replacing it, but looks like that might not work.
Could this just require new transmission fluid, or is this more likely to be something more serious -- and expensive? I was hoping to keep the TSX through the summer to teach my daughters how to drive manuals (one has some manual experience), and then replace it with something that has MT and modern safety tech like a GTI or Accord Sport. I was hoping to avoid dumping money into the TSX before replacing it, but looks like that might not work.
#4
Thanks guys. That's what I was afraid of. I'll get it checked out.
#5
When was the last time you changed your clutch fluid? And your MT fluid? Acura does not have a service schedule for the clutch fluid (really?), but since it's brake fluid, it should be changed at least every three years. Before giving up on this rare MT TSX, it's worth a deeper diagnosis. Check out:
https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/Bad-Clutch-Symptoms
Some folks have had luck using GM Syncromesh clutch fluid vs the Acura brand.
https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/Bad-Clutch-Symptoms
Some folks have had luck using GM Syncromesh clutch fluid vs the Acura brand.
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Nedmundo (03-26-2019)
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Well, the clutch was shot, and the flywheel needed replacement too. Ouch. On another forum, I've seen that many Honda enthusiasts like Amsoil Synchromesh manual transmission fluid, so I had my shop used that. With this, the shifter feel is heavenly, probably the best it's ever been. The clutch is pretty heavy, but it has been for a long time.
Before the repair, things were really getting bad. I had a band rehearsal way out of town on Monday night, and at first shifting was okay, but after about half an hour it was almost impossible to shift into any gear. I barely made it to rehearsal, and was afraid I'd be calling AAA for a tow home. Afterwards, it again started off okay, but things declined and it was nearly impossible to shift by the time I got home. One of my bandmates said bad clutches get worse as they heat up, which probably explains it.
Before the repair, things were really getting bad. I had a band rehearsal way out of town on Monday night, and at first shifting was okay, but after about half an hour it was almost impossible to shift into any gear. I barely made it to rehearsal, and was afraid I'd be calling AAA for a tow home. Afterwards, it again started off okay, but things declined and it was nearly impossible to shift by the time I got home. One of my bandmates said bad clutches get worse as they heat up, which probably explains it.
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#8
Just had my clutch/flywheel replaced 2 weeks ago at 165k (replaced with OEM). I knew it was on it's way out for months (even adjusted the clutch pedal twice during it's life to buy more drive-ability time), but procrastinated until it left me stranded... Symptoms were (numerous): Clutch pedal engaging lower (adjustment helped), clutch pedal requiring more force/stiffer than 'normal' (didn't really notice till I got the new clutch, felt much lighter), chattery engagement, cold weather throwout bearing whine, fast shift lockout.
Everything back to feeling smooth/normal now, just bought a new slave cylinder and removed the delay valve, will install that in a few weeks.
Everything back to feeling smooth/normal now, just bought a new slave cylinder and removed the delay valve, will install that in a few weeks.
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