ed_423

damnit, i need something that'd pass emission LOl, cali is super strict..

Richie v6

84 bucks for express mail. The PCD comes with a defouler to keep the CEL from coming on. We actually spent the good amount of time and effort to get this part dialed in. If they have a strict inspection just swap back to stock in like 20 minutes.

Just general reviews, dynos would be awesome.

I am going to the mandrel bending company and slipping the guys a few bucks to make it happen.

Everything that keeps the CEL from coming on is included. Just swap over your o2 sensors and bolt her up.

I sell tons of PCDs to Cali, people have their ways. Unless the inspector really knows the car well. Keeping the secondary cat in place would fool almost anyone. Again you can go back to stock in the time is takes to do a oil change. Actually you can do both at the same time.

SeeYouTwo

I think mine has being missed.....care to provide some info on the above?

benben01

^^ In theory, yes. The primary cat creates more of a restriction being so close the to exhaust manifold.

optimusaccord

Could we get a combo deal with the high flow cat and pcd?

spdandpwr

I had a civic si and I can tell you that removing the cats makes a hugggee difference. I installed a vibrant header with a cat and made decent power, but when I installed the same vibrant header without the cat, I picked up another 8hp...I don't have the dyno sheets anymore, but I did dyno it on the same dyno. And this was on a 2 liter motor with very little tuning (just adjusting the afrs).

HondoGermany

Hahaha, thank you guys.
I´m not pissed about RV6, I was the first who posted a Testpipe , and I never wanted to deal with this.LOL
I´m pissed that I bought the P2R Downpipe, when I saw that poor welded Part, I knew I could do it on my own, because you dont need to change the Flex part, only the 2nd Cat is enough, so I build my own Testpipe. P2R Downpipe cost 254$ at Throwdown performance ( I appreciate to deal with Marc, very much, thanks again), when I see the quality on the Pics from RV6 his PCD, then I must say the quality looks much higher for a little more $. And the part will definetely give more Power than the Downpipe. I wil try to sell my Downpipe and see if I have enough balls to install the PCD with my own Testpipe, in germany the Police can take my car away if I have so big changes at the car.

rezare

Any chance you will release a HFPC for the I4? This would be compatible with p2r downpipe and you could address that existing market I know I'd be highly interested in such an option.

Richie v6

Around $120 for USPS express if I can get the box down to size. Otherwise its $300 for Fedex. Sending it in 2 pieces and welding it down there might be a good option.

I can't really go much lower then this. I made the price extra attractive since its a intro item. Lowering the price would mean I would have to cut quality and thats just not my style.

Please remember the P2R "downpipe" is more like a test pipe. It doesn't come down from the head just replaces the secondary cat.

Just paint the PCD black and keep the secondary cat. I doubt the police will have any idea there was even a cat there. They would have open the hood and look behind the engine and have a good knowledge of the car.

No chance. The P2R "downpipe" is a just a test pipe there really isn't anything special about it. I believe they made it over complicated in order to charge more for it.

I don't see the point of doing a HFPC since there is plenty of room to run a high flow secondary cat. Also a defouler is included to keep any CELs from coming on. The HFPC concept works for the V6s since there is no room to run a cat in the secondary position.

Our PCD is the closest thing to a header you will ever get for this car. It comes directly off the head and connects to the secondary cat. The entire system is modular and you customize it the way you want.

rezare

Understood.

I have another question then, can someone "guesstimate" the impact of precat vs main cat emissions (CO2 especially)? The TSXes have 2 O2 sensors, right? The AFR measurement will not be affected by the PCD/defouler I hope.

Can the PCD + high flow cat pass a CO2/smog test? I was hoping to pass with the precat + p2r downpipe, but I believe the setup to be comparable emission wise with PCD+HFC (at the worst I can fit the original main cat and this will surely pass). Am I wrong?

Also, one other question: the estimated 15HP/10WTQ are with only the PCD? So a HFC/test pipe would further increase the power to the wheels. Is there a great difference between testpipe and HFC power wise?

benben01

Richie, will you be able to ship the PCD next week?

Richie v6

Pretty sure as long as I get the fittings in before mid week.

benben01

Ok Richie, just placed my order I will provide some objective feedback as soon as you can ship it out to me. BTW, I will be cat-less on my set up.

rezare

Can someone estimate please if a 2nd cat (original) only setup will pass sniff test?

Also, I tried to order from the site, but the international options are just US, Canada and Puerto Rico (I think). How can I order in other places, like the European Union?

Thanks.

robpp

iTrader: (2)

sorry for the newbie q:

here is my exhaust. which parts does this replace?

LC2ner

The part with the blue spot up to the manifold and outwards to the next set of bolts.

benben01

Yeah it will.. On my 2000 Accord V6, it had only 1 cat which was about the size of our 2nd cat.

spdandpwr

can we order the testpipe now and buy the pre-cat delete / downpipe later?

Richie v6

Cranking them out.



Yes when ever you like.

spdandpwr

so just to be clear, i can install the test pipe, without buying the pre-cats section now, right? Just wanna be absolutely certain, lol.

LC2ner

Yes--the test pipe fits where your 2nd cat sits. Direct replacement. And a fantastic bang-for-the-buck mod.

LC2ner

Are you guys charging the full price or just a deposit? Looks like you've sold 4--still waiting till you hit 15? Any combo pricing for the PCD and Test Pipe together?

savclaude

im very interested in this

benben01

Is that my PCD pipe being welded?

VortexBlueTSX

Im buying this, as soon as i get out of school in two weeks! Cant wait

optimusaccord

I think I'm going to throw in on one of these this week.

KillerG

This is awful, because I want to buy one, yet have 0 money.

Rich, whats the price jump gonna be like If I dont throw down for one of these initial units? Im strongly considering it, but like you said I would love some more feedback once these hit some Aziners hands

Richie v6

First 4 going out this week.

Richie v6

Haven't figured exact pricing yet but it will be going up.

benben01

Yummy.. The PCDs are purrrrty Guess it's an install weekend for me with the RX8 on jack stands waiting on delivery of coil overs tomorrow and after market headers. Now the PCD for the TSX, the kids can do yard work this weekend

optimusaccord

I am ready to pick one up, but curious about the ceramic coating, it is just for heat retention correct? The pipes are all pieces are made of stainless steel, correct?

live2hit01

pumped! thanks Richie!

KillerG

Ben,

Tell me if I should buy one once you install your unit, thanks;

Sincerely,
KillerG

thunderbt3

The ceramic coating helps keep engine bay temps down and keeps the heat in the exhaust. This helps the 2nd cat work more efficiently if you choose to keep the 2nd cat. All components are made of stainless which means they won't rust. They may still discolor though from the heat. I think the ceramic coating may help in that area to keep things shiny.

rezare

It also improves gas scavenging effect because of increased gas temperature in the exhaust.

optimusaccord

I had coated my down pipe on my turbo charged accord, so I get what it does, I'm just weighing the cost of the coating. I really want to boost the motor, however with no concrete plans, this is the next logical step in the bolt on performance pieces. Just not sure when hondata is going to release the flashpro, though they are advertising the 04-10 tsx as having flashpro available in magazines.

axionindustries

Just read on that Hondata are shipping 09 , 2010 TSX flashpro's next week , same part number as the 07, 08 TSX flashpro.

benben01

^^ Oh Shizzle!!!!

savclaude

damn so jelly

thunderbt3