spdandpwr

ed_423

nice! but the thing is, it said its for k24z7, our engine is k24z3, would there be any problems ??

KillerG

Hondata is shit.

Weve been asking for sooo long

LC2ner

Why cant this be for the '12 TSX 6MT too...its nearly identical! Here's to hoping it's out soon.

tsxronald

Not impressed by the numbers, our cars need torque. 1st gen tsx got 15-24 tq increase. Not worth it.

KillerG

It's definitely better than nothing, and definitely better than $500

npathak

so is this compatible with ours?

half price. would we have to take it to the dealer and get our keys connected again or is this not necessary with this reflash?

denwhat

tsxronald

No it's not compatible with our ECU.

PyroDave

you can get a C63 reflash too, it'll have the same effect as doing the civic reflash. different ECU. wont work lol

JackRydden224

I believe you would need to send the ECU, immobilizer and your keys in to get the job completed. During this time you would not be able to operate your car. This might be the biggest turn off to some people.

KillerG

I could take the bus for a week for a good reflash. Someone e-mail hondata a link to this thread and tell em theres demand for a reflash!

Mr. NC

Would have seriously considered this lol, woulda been cheaper than my grille or lip LOL buuuut the thought of a useless car....naaaaaaaaaah

spdandpwr

the k24a3 and k24z7 are mechanically identical...I can see a reflash for the tsx as being completely feasible. Regarding gains, consider the fact that this car doesn't have a "real" vtec system like the previous gen tsx...with that, the horsepower and torque increases on a completely stock vehicle are incredible.

VortexBlueTSX

O man, why cant they just be on our side for once....thats not even fair

optimusaccord

I just want the flashpro.

ssjoeboe9

I feel like its never going to happen....

JackRydden224

I hope this gets through for our cars. My car is definitely better after getting it reflashed. Having a more affordable and easier option would be great for all the owners.

ssjoeboe9

How exactly do they reflash an ecu? Is it a program that wipes everything clean and reinstalls or what? Kinda like jailbreaking a phone? I mean how did gosha do it?

spdandpwr

you mail your ecu, they install a new map (think of it like installing a new skin on your phone's os), and then they send it back...car is good as new but with more power!

ssjoeboe9

So what's the deal? How hard is it to make a new map? Why not just ask gosha to purchase a separate flashing device and send one here? How hard is it? Plug and play right?

T-jay

How abiut we all send them an email at the same time every day until the agree to do it or there server crashes?

ssjoeboe9

^ agreed haha. But for real... Ok so gosha obviously has different units to flash these cars, and I'm sure he is not the only one to have a "reflasher" Can it simply be purchased and sent to the US?

spdandpwr

the unit to flash ecu's can be purchased, I'm sure...in fact, hondata makes a unit like that that plugs into your car's obdII port. The problem is that they don't think the market for producing these units is strong enough to warrant the effort...opportunity cost at it's finest, i guess.

T-jay

How about someone does an online petition to hondata, get names or try to get a group buy that would at least cover The r&d cost. Shouldnt be hard for them.

VortexBlueTSX

I know if there was a group buy i would def fork down, for obvious reasons i really want this

spdandpwr

we would probably need at least 20 names in order to get them to look our way

isshinryu30

I would do it

HondoGermany

Oh god, my Azine bros. Put my name on the list, even I could not get my ECU flashed, or will it be available in Europe too? Hope it will went good for you

thunderbt3

LOL, you'll probably need more than 20. Check out this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-126/offical-list-reflash-2007-2008-tsx-mt-674265/

HondoGermany

spdandpwr

^damn, 120+ people...at least they got it, lol

ssjoeboe9

So we all pool up the money to buy one, whoever puts in the most gets it first and as your reflash your ecu you send it to the next person on the list. Perfect! Where do we buy?

ParaSurfer1979

Actually it is real VTEC. The difference in the 1st gen TSX and other models is that the VTEC is only on the intake side. where b4 it was on both came hence why the games aren't as big as b4. but the gains are very good on a stock car. once you do mods like intake/her/ex the gains will be bigger than if you added these parts with the stock ecu. the power curve will also be more broad and smooth as well. someone call Hondata. I'm sure their bogged down with emails.

ceb

You really think that an online petition of 20 or so people is going to cover the R&D costs of this?

Perhaps a better question is "would you trust a ECU remapping where the entire R&D costs were covered by 20 people signing an online petition?"

The TSX market is far different from the Si market. The majority of TSX owners will never mod their cars (or come to a forum) whereas virtually every Si will end up with extensive mods by the time it is put out to pasture.

Any remapping for the TSX will be much more expensive due to the lower volume and it probably won't be as sophisticated.

spdandpwr

^given the similarity in engine design, etc I think that very little would be needed in terms of the actual mapping. I think it's more a function of hacking into the ecu in order to allow for the new tune

ceb

One issue is that the si is manual only and the TSX is predominately automatic. To get an effective re-mapping, you need to take the entire system into consideration.

How different are the transmissions in the two cars (MT of course?)

spdandpwr

^the first four gears and the final drive are exactly the same...only difference is fifth and sixth are slightly shorter in the tsx

sources:
http://www.acura.com/DriveTrain.aspx...modelYear=2012

http://www.9thgencivic.com/forum/9th...omparison.html

ceb

Right, so not only do you need to remap for the slightly different engine but also for the tranny.

It ain't gonna happen with twenty names on a petition.

ssjoeboe9

So whats the deal with hondata saying they would release it on then not do it? They already tested one here in the US. Nothing has gone wrong with it. Whats the hold up?