Euronoob

Hey guys,

I'm starting to look into buying an exhaust system now as I don't like the sound of our cars with the muffler connected and with the muffler disconnected, it rattles when I go over bumps which is quite annoying and embarrassing.

Anyways, a Fujitsubo Legalis R exhaust system will cost me $1,900 (installed) and I've been quoted:

Hi Steven,

A custom exhaust system will cost around the $2000 - $2200 dollar mark. The thing with japanese exhaust system, they are pretty small. You dont get much gains compared to an custom exhaust system. With a custom exhaust, you'll get better flow with the high flow cat. Fugitsubo system doesnt come with any CAT converter (you use your stock ones)

Yes i can make another CAI for you to fit nicely in the engine bay

Cheers,
Benny

I would've thought a custom exhaust system would've costed less but if the gains etc are better, I wouldn't mind paying a few extra hundred dollars.

So my point is, what is better? Is it worth it? I don't mind a drone in the car.. I don't like a silent modified car..

Thank you,
Steven

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

Steven, do you have the six cylinder or the I4?

Euronoob

Oh sorry, I4.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

sadly, the I4 wont gain like the six cylinder would with an exhaust.

you need to find out what diameter exhaust piping stock uses.
if you upgrade this diameter to something larger, you'll gain. Making sure there is no restrictions.


an exhaust shop who specializes in Honda's can do this for you.
BUTT, its all going to be experimentation.

the exhaust shop can fab up something for you, but since its a one off design, they're going to have to play around to make it sound to your liking.

if you dont like it, they can re-work the piping....adding to the cost.

Euronoob

Ohhh I see. Damn, that's some sad news :S

I'm pretty sure the stock diamater is 2.25? The guy said he'd do a 3" I think.. But isn't 2.25 the max a N/A car should go? Or am I thinking of the wrong thing.

KillerG

Get a custom straight pipe made, removes 2nd cat, cost = low

Order set of 2 mufflers, borla, magna, whatever you can get, and just have them welded in,

new exhaust sound on the cheap

Doing a full setup would cost way too much, as it is the exhaust isnt that restrictive so we wont any gains, and doing an axleback would be pointless too i bet (???)

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

killer is pretty spot on.

Euronoob

Oooooo... So... if I just went to an exhaust shop, tell them "custom straight pipe made, removes 2nd cat, cost = low?!" that'll be all good?

Euronoob

And I'd go find myself the 2 mufflers and get them to weld it on at the same time..

ed_423

ttk has a custom catback

Mr. NC

"Steven"

If you do not have an exhaust like this by the end of your endeavor you have failed as a human being

Euronoob

Holy crap, it's like blades coming out the back.. LOL.

This is what the guy said again:

Stevan,

Yes i will be supply all parts. I will be using 3inch high flow CAT, one resonator, 3inch piping until it diverts onto the back section with 2 MagnaFlow Stainless Steel Mufflers.

The CAT converter is there for emission. For better performance, a high flow CAT will give it better flow

Let me know how you go with your research

Regards
Benny

But yeah, I think I'm going to go with Killer's suggestion. Is ttk5 still running a single exhaust?

Mr. NC

Bosozoku style is love hate...I love it lol

Lets get some big ass HKS DRAGGERS or 5'Zigen Fireballs on that badboy euronoob!

KillerG

That sounds like a really expensive way to accomplish the same thing, hes right, a HFPC will give you the same effect as no cat, slightly better emissions, but much much more expensive than just replacing it with a steel pipe. I understand where the guy is coming from though, as this is his business. His goal is to set you up right and make a buck, your goal is to set yourself up right and save a buck. In the end, if you decide to skip on the HFPC, you will save some money, but fuck the environment.

Ask yourself how much you care about polar bears. I have, and I cant say I honestly give two fucks about polar bears.


3 inch piping wont do jack shit for you, and infact, could even harm your performance because the increased pipe size may lead to reduced backpressure (do i know this for a fact? no. debatable? yes)

The biggest change to sound will be a set of new mufflers, the removal of 2nd cat will add some minor grumble but otherwise its just icing on the cake, you could seriously skip out on everything but the mufflers and be alright

Go check out t-jays sound clips and check out benbens straight pipe

tsxykid105

on my 05 i have a set of apexi mufflers the i put in place of stock. they were about 350-400 for both and 50 to have them welded in. i kept the stock piping but traded the cat for a t1r test pipe since the 05 cat is restrictive. if would you i would fine a nice set of mufflers that you like the sound of and just get those. it deff wouldnt run you 1000-2500 dollars. my friend has an 09 and put a set of magnaflow mufflers on it and it has a nice deep growl not rice at all.

KillerG

http://www.borla.com/products/produc...?cat=2&type=44

check out WAILTAIL!

Mr. NC

^ Duals would not fit the TSX bumper cutouts surely?

tsxykid105

ick duals. theres a guy with a blue tsx that has the tl-s duals and i dont like them. theres a guy that posted like 2-3 weeks ago from jersey that has a white tsx that just got magnaflows on. id look for his post since he has a vid of how they sound.

KillerG

the wailtail, not the duals, and i dont think duals will look good on our bumper beacause to fit they would need to be uber small duals and look puny

t-jay is the man with the sound, and he has some nice vids up for us in his progress thread

magnas work great, im just suggesting borlas incase u wanna switch it up

VortexBlueTSX

I kinda like those wailtails, i might be doing that in the near future

tsxykid105

i think he had these which keep the back looking almost stock since the tips are alomst alike and i like these to.
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=9549

KillerG

amazon has the borlas

http://www.amazon.com/Borla-40061-Bo...526105-0474034

and advance auto has the magnas

HeavyDuty

Whale tails?

/dick mode off.

J/K fellas.

ed_423

Euronoob

Not sure whether or not to go wailtail or .. the other ones.

14832:
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=9549

14827:
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/d...rtnumber=14827

14829:
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/d...rtnumber=14829

Sort of leaning towards the 27/29 more than the 32...

And also, Advance Auto would be the 'best' place to buy some MagnaFlow's? They're quite expensive to buy over here if I go through an exhaust shop..

Edit: damn, Advance Auto doesn't ship overseas.

KillerG

14829 is nicest, if you get a magnaflow, it will sound identical to T-jays setup, if you go borla, we have no idea what crazy shit ull end up with

Euronoob

LOLL, true Killer... I guess I gotta start being stingy when I go out now to save money...

Edit: That doesn't look long does it?.. The tip I mean, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Magnaflow...5f9b26467#shId

KillerG

a good muff shop should be able to make it fit i guess, though idk to be honest

tsxykid105

i like the 29 to and borla tend to be more on the raspy side if your worried about the tips not going out enough a muffler shop just has to weld an 1' or 2' on to it which isnt a big deal but either way itll sound nice and look good to.

09TSXTech

^ I went through similar thought process on the exhaust. Both Fujitsubo Legalis R and Mugen or even CTE will set me back closed to $2K installed. The amount of hp gain would be minimal without a supercharger/turbo system.

Your cold air intake should have given you some nice sound, my CTE Icebox is perfect for my daily use. Just look for a pair of performance muffler like the Magnaflow 14829 or Borla ones, they will give you better sound without costing you a fortune ($500 installed).

Or you can follow my example, install a pair Magnaflow tip on a perfectly fine stock exhaust system (welded to muffler) $150 installed.

HeavyDuty

Damn, that looks nice, Tech! Fills out the bumper opening, high & tight so as not to attract too much attention.

Dig it!

tsxykid105

i like your tsx but i prefer the tsx and acura emblems off it looks more balanced but i should be banned for this but i just starred at you car for like 5min and the sight of a camry popped up anyone else see a camry look kinda?

09TSXTech

^ What year is your TSX, 05/06?

I left the Acura emblem and TSX on because I think it looks better that way, besides, why pay 30k+ for a car and then remove all the badges. Took the ACURA off because the A emblem already indicate it's an Acura.

As far as Camry or most other sedan for that matter, they look alike because designers follow the same form to achieve aerodynamic efficiency, in that regard, I think the TSX is much better looking than the USDM Accord, it's all in the execution.

npathak

Or you can follow my example, install a pair Magnaflow tip on a perfectly fine stock exhaust system (welded to muffler) $150 installed.



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So you just got Magnaflow tips and got it welded to the muffler for $150?
How much were they and from where did u get them?
Did you get different sound with the tips?

tsxykid105

my tsx is an 05 and i deff agree on you with on the tsx looking better than the accord. but im also alot younger than you and am into that flush sleek look. i just got a thought b/c on my way home tonight i was behind one. i love my tsxy though. and tips wont make you car sound different since its jsut the shiny piece you replace and there wont be any gains at all except for looks

09TSXTech

The tip is 4" in diameter and 7.5" in length, it fill out the void on the rear bumper. It doesn't change the sound much, my CTE Icebox generate all the sound I need.

As tsxkid105 mentioned above, I am quite a bit older and spend a lot of time on the road. The constant droning noise of a performance muffler grows tiresome quickly (done that with my Civic Si back in the 90's). With a family as well as clients to shuttle back and forth, the setup I have suits me just fine.

The 2G TSX has a very efficient exhaust system which is why none of the aftermarket exhaust manage to have any performance gain over it.

T-jay

Add 2 magnaflows to the stock exhaust and call it a day. You get a low deep hum with no drone. I added an intake so the motor sounds ballsy. Say no to borla they have baffled mufflers so they vibrate and rasp.

Stock on the left magnaflow right.

Check my build thread for videos. Gonna do another video when I buy/install cat delete downpipe.

Throwdown

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I've seen quite a few 2.25" to 2.5", but not to 3" yet on the platform. Actually on the sister platform Accord (same car & chassis) there are a few V6 systems out with larger piping to 2.5". Not sure on what gains you may or may not see with 3"

tsxykid105

t-jay i your car was the first to come to mind when i saw this thread. i was amazed at what you did to the tsx in so little time. and for the above ^ poster 2.5 is about the max and N/A i4 should run. if your not turbo when you dont need back pressure at all then 3 and above is best but when you start going to 3 an up on a n/a i4 then you have built up gases in the exhaust because it cant excape and gets trapped and you need a little back pressure but not having any you start to lose power becuase thens theres no exhaust to feed back.

VortexBlueTSX

So T-Jay I might have to copy you....hahaha