Paul2007

I have a TL SHAWD coming at the end of my lease contract (October 2012). I am very interested by the TSX Tech V6. Any of you know what is to be expected in 2013?

PyroDave

it will be exactly the same as the 2012 99% chance, and may also be the last MY produced sadly

jrubicon

Exactly the reason why i got a TSX, . I want a car (and hoping) that wont be replaced by a newer model. I was about to get a Mercedes C Coupe that just came out 2012, and there's already a redesign for 2014 coming out in 2013, That turned me off with MB, sold it for me for TSX. Although these 2 cars and apples and oranges.

Acura_Dude

Same for the SE? I was hoping they'd do something right like throw the tech pkg on the SE. Not a big deal. Just thought they'd go out with a bang since MY2013 is the last for the TSX.

PyroDave

i mean i hope so aswell, but there are no reports of it happening, and the manual ILX which comes with the same engine as the TSX also has no tech option, so it doesn't bode well

Professor

Yeah, when I got my 2011 in April, the 2013 was supposed to be the last until a major overall. I think the worst aspects get pieced to the 2014 ILX and the best to the 2014 TLX.

ESHBG

But one little bright spot I see is that you can get PART of the Tech package on the ILX now and can at least get the back up camera. Honestly, the Navi I could live without (and going even further, I don't think I will buy an Acura/Honda/in car Navi again if I can avoid it) and the ELS is not really a deal breaker for me, especially when you consider the ILX "base" stereo doesn't sound like it will be all that bad.

But yeah, Acura confuses the hell out of me anymore with their choice of packages and direction these days.

Acura_Dude

Exactly.

This makes sense.

anton1974

seem to me like the 2.4 MT tsx and ilx overlap quite a bit. Since it's such a small percentage of people that buy the stickshift, my guess that they both will not be offered in the 2013 model year. The 2013 accord MT would be another flavor of the same. I just can't see Honda offering all three.

aLittleFavour

As with what I've seen Honda do they generally change one or two small things on the exterior in it's last year of the current generation... look for a change in the fogs again and most likely taillights...

Interior wise I'm betting the base TSX at least gets a similar screen as the ILX (without nav) or possibly even a color screen as I read starting in 2013 over 94% of Honda's will have a rear view camera standard. http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ho...arview-cameras

And I'd assume there will be push to start standard on the TSX in 2013 as well.

Acura_Dude

IDK maybe honda will. Lately Honda has been doing some off the wall things that doesn't make any since.

Hope the TSX does go out with a bang IF they do decide to ax it. Kinda wishing they wasn't going to kill it off. If they do the 5G TL better be a hit like the 3G was. The 4G...

mrstak

iTrader: (1)

i am highly skeptical that they would change the screen AND incorporate push button start on the TSX. i don't know where you read that or if you're just throwing ideas out but those are pretty unrealistic imo.

Technik330

Does anyone know when we could expect to learn a little more about the '13 MY TSX?

I spent a little bit of time searching on Google, there wasn't much worth noting.

Rocket_man

The new US Accord goes on sale this fall. They will use the same platform for the new TLX. It should also have the new Earth Dreams engine. So look for clues in the new Accord.

aLittleFavour

From what I've seen and or read the ILX comes with Push-button start, keyless entry, a rear view camera and an upgraded display (compared to the current digital text display the TSX has)

If the car is about $4,000 less than the TSX why wouldn't the TSX come standard with these features?

Not to mention EVERY Acura at this point has push to start besides the TSX and as I've posted in my previous post Honda adding standard rear view camera to 94% of their vehicles.


I'm willing to put money you'll see all these features in the 2013 TSX.

Acura_Dude

So does that mean they'll change the exterior of the current TSX a little bit for MY2013? Earthe Dreams may put Honda back on top.

AcuraDocNY

where did you guys hear that they are making a 2013 TSX? The salesman at the dealer by me said he thinks the 12 could be the last. I looked all over the internet but can't find anything on 2013 TSX.

pearldrummer

Isnt the 2013 Accord going to be a "world Accord" hence no Euro Accord/TSX? Wouldnt that render the 2013 TSX and Accord the same vehicle?

World 2013 Accord EX-L sedan V6 6MT please

Technik330

Bump, for more discussion!

Rocket_man

Here's the problem.. The TSX is based on the JDM/Euro accord platform, the TL is based on the USD Accord platform. So technically the TSX can go as long as the JDM/Euro platform is in production. But the TL has to change when the US Accord changes. AND.. if Acura is going to combine the TL and TSX (which may now be up for debate) then that will force a change when the US Accord changes. Which is the end of this year.

So it will be an interesting summer/fall!

Personally I'm hoping this happens in 2013 because I want a new car! I really don't want to buy the first year of production but my car will be 7 years old by then.

Rocket_man

I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to this yet. However there is a desire to move TSX production to the US to save on costs. With the exception of the RL (and they import so few of those it hardly matters) that would put all US Acura production in the US (or maybe North America).

I don't think they would make the Accord and TSX/TLS look the same even though they are based on the same platform. The TL and Accord are based on the same platofmr today and they don't look much alike. Likewise the Civic, ILX, and RDX are all based on the same platform.

ceb

At this point every bit of this discussion is made up personal opinion. Nobody has "heard" anything because there isn't anything to "hear."

PyroDave

i heard that ceb is a meany beany fo feeny!!!

Acura_Dude

Yeah that's the reason I asked. If the the JDM/Euro platform has another year left, then we may see the TSX again for 2013. The USDM TL current cycle still has one more year left, assuming if it follows the same 5 yr cylce as the 3G TL. I'm expecting 2014 to be the year for the new TLX. But im still confused as to why Acura came out with the Special Edition for the TSX this year. SE models usually mark the end of the current generation. Honda's all over the board and they're very hush-hush about their plans with these vehicles.

SSFTSX

That was last year update from Honda Australlia. In EU every one is buying diesel so there was capacity issue with diesel.
At this point there is no diesel in USDM accord. and wont make sense to shift Euro Accord production to US and import diesel engine from Japan. what will Japanese factories do?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/100987/2...-half-of-2011/
Mr Higgins said the European market took priority in terms of diesel production and at the moment the vehicle was selling at close to capacity. He said another issue was putting a business case together that ensured the diesel would be both profitable for Honda Australia and affordable for customers.

Rocket_man

The 8th Gen Accord was a 2008 model, going out in 2013.

The 4th Gen TL was a 2009 model, going out in 2014(?).

So one possible path is that the TL waits a year after the 9th Gen Accord, giving the TSX one more year as a JDM/Euro Accord and then they combine. So then the TLX is a 2014 model year. Unfortunately that makes me wait another year :-(

Acura_Dude

A year can be a long time when you're ready to buy. So the way I see it, the TSX may have another year under its belt. Pure speculation/guessing on my part. I remember reading somewhere on this part of the forum that Honda's trying to go to 6 yr cycles.

Rocket_man

My 1G TSX is 6 years old and just turned 40,000 miles. It has been the most solid car I've ever owned. I don't need a new car, I just want a new car. But it is hard to justify a new car when this one has been so solid. So I can wait, but I won't be happy about it! I just hope the wait is worth it.

Acura_Dude

That's the only thing about Hondas. They last so long. 40K miles, your TSX is still new. It's just the new car itch. But if the TLX is a homerun and you go to test drive one, your conscious is goin to chase and eat at you like a shark till you give in and trade in the tsx. You get sucked in!

ESHBG

True, and with all of the silly issues I have had with my '09, I am leery of buying a first year model again now. Plus, Honda/Acura has this annoying habit of making each year a little better and adding things the previous year did not have.

Acura_Dude

I say add it all during the mmc instead of a little each year. Gives the consumer the wrong idea in a way.

ESHBG

Exactly!

kretrop

That's an easy answer, and covered in a bunch of the reviews I've read. There's an SE this year because it's Acura's 25th anniversary, and it's a way to "celebrate" that.

From Motor Trend's review:

opboarding

I am sure glad they randomly wedged how much it weighed into that sentence! I wouldnt want people to be mislead into thinking that this car is a super light sports car.

I heard that next year they are going to come out with a VIP limo edition.

BIG-T

hey so I'm new to all this and i'd really appreciate some help pleaseI live in Toronto and I'm in the market for a 2010+ TSX. I went to a dealer the other day and got a quote for 35990 for a 2012 tech package and I wanted to know if i could get a better deal then that if i tried harder? I've also considered the 2010-2011 ones and Im getting prices that range around 29-33K for a tech package. Can anyone tell me what price range i should be aiming for when I'm out there talking to salesman? Thanks a bunch guys

Acura_Dude

Ahhhhh that makes even more since! I totally forgot about Acura's 25th Anniversary. I used to go to the website and read the stories from owners. Some were the original owners, plenty of families owned nothing but acuras, and many were also repeat owners. I hope to see the SE return again for 2013, but with tech pkg also. That'll end the current generation with a bang.

Rocket_man

From Jeff at TOV... for the 2013 Accord, unless you get the V6 you will get the CVT.. EVEN THE SPORT version. What the heck is a SPORT CVT???? I sure hope that Honda's CVT is better than the other manufacturers attempts. Given this is their first CVT I'm cautious. Also no Navi on the Sport model.

The other thought is that since this list is coming out now, it may indicate an earlier than Sept 12 release of the '13 Accord.

"As we've heard for quite some time, the 2013 Accord will come in the following flavors:

4-cylinder - 6MT or CVT
6-cylinder - 6AT or 6MT

Also, there are new "Sport" (and "Touring") trim levels listed for the sedan. This is just a shot in the dark but perhaps Honda took note of the runaway success of the 2012 Camry's sporty SE trim level.

We've heard that the Accords should be arriving in the September timeframe, but for order sheets to be coming out in early May makes us wonder if the onsale date won't move up a little bit. "

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1062301

mrstak

iTrader: (1)

if the SE returns with tech i'm gonna have to shoot a bitch

kretrop

While it would be nice, I still think it's just wishful thinking. Personally, I think Honda will limit the TSX even further, assuming there is one for 2013, in an effort to push buyers into either the ILX or the TL, which would effectively begin the phasing out of the TSX. I'd honestly be surprised if the manual is even offered on a 2013 TSX (again, assuming there is one).

I really think you're going to see Honda/Acura make moves to push more people to the ILX, since that car needs to be a success for them, and they've stated relatively lofty sales goals for it. "You want a manual in a $30K Acura? You have to get the ILX". "You want the latest tech goodies in a $30K or less Acura? You have to get the ILX".

The TSX presents too much competition, price-wise, to their ILX goals for it to stick around. That's how I see it, anyway, and my dealer seems to agree.

This is why I got one now; I'm not placing any bets on its continued existence, even for another model year

Acura_Dude

Ahhh i hope it's not just wishful thinking, but then again we're talkin about Honda here, and they do have great expectations on the ILX. I say give the TSX one more year and load it up, well the SE of course. More wishful thinking on my part.