PACman

The return of the CL would be nice, but wouldn't that be on a TL platform?

rb1

These are the U.S. models. The diesels VW offers in Europe have almost 300 lb-ft of torque in some models.

If not for our crappy diesel fuel, you would see these here.

Wisc Badger

You do realize they will say almost ANYTHING to get you back into their showroom right???

who did you talk to?

They might be right but still... I would take anything they have to say there with a grain of salt.

Ibn Rushd

The only thing remotely that can go against the 1 series is Canada's Acura CSX Type S which can probably go up against the 128i....

But that's really about it for now.

Also the Mercedes B series can go into that range as well, but the B is a hatch, 128 is a coupe and the CSX-S is a sedan...pretty funny though.

That's about it for now, i'm sure an "ELK" from Benz will come out soon enough for it.

zxxxboy

What month is the 2009 TSX coming out?

5thTo2nd

It's always good to have more people posting here who are close to the "action". Thanks for the info, but I hope you're wrong about the 4 cyl turbo with no SH-AWD being the base model. I'd prefer a FWD NA 4 cyl putting out about 220 hp

krio

actually the TSX has already a diesel engine, in the eurpean version Accord:
the 2.2iCDTI with 340 Nm and 140 hp.
One of the best engine in the category.

dinoc

Thanks God the headlights looks good

Found some teaser images and a video with European Accord Tourier :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8o-xU0OZc

dinoc

The source of this is here: http://www2.automarket.ro/img/db/art...?ts=1201084643

They mention that:
- this will be presented at Geneva auto saloon
- that the model is inspired by Acura RL and developed by Honda's luxury division
- they mention about Euro-5 compliant gas and diesel engines
- and they mention about the model will use the SH-AWD , also
- the model will officially be presented on 11 Ferbruary

LuvMyTSX

^^ February 11? Well that's sooner than we thought at least. Hope it's true!

dom

Inspired by the RL?

5thTo2nd

^^^ That's what I thought too.


But those gauges look pretty damn cool.

Nogard13

Those pics seem like they're of the tourer wagon (judging by the roof racks).

BTW, I don't like the gauges.

rex.

Looks nice, I wonder what our version will look like. I like the circular MID in the speedometer.

LuvMyTSX

He said in his post that they are in fact pictures of the Tourer.

dom

Yup, gauges look too busy. The current cars are still one of the best in the business IMO.

JayRoam

cool gauges. can't wait to see more

BulldogHockey

Not a huge fan of the "depth" of those gagues or the aluminum trim on them. I wonder how they will look lit up though. The needles are on an outside track instead of the std center pivot; that might look kind of cool when in motion!

I'm in agreement that the current gen gauges are maybe the best out there right now. Even my father in-law loved them, and he's dead set against anything non-GM much less an import.

Also what's the "Up/Down" on the tach? Is that a shift indicator or something?

CarbonGray Earl

looks more like a design evolution rather than revolution. Size seems similar to current. I like the simplicity of the 2004-05 guages, but I think the ones they showed were pretty cool.

TheDukeZip

Like the gauges a LOT!

5thTo2nd

Agreed. I like the new gauges and the outside track, but not much out there beats the cleanliness and understated styling of the current layout.

I sure hope that up/down has nothing to do with a shift indicator. That'd be pretty tacky.

jlukja

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TMQ

The design looks ... OK. Nothing spectacular, not that anyone would expect from Accord (even though European). The TSX version better spice it up a bit. Re-badging just gets old.

TSX's genes are in the Euro Accord, so I would say just give up hoping it be a performance vehicle.

CCColtsicehockey

I dont like the stupid little cut up in the front of the headlight. current headlights look much nicer in my opinion.

dinoc

Well, the current gauges are different on our Accords than your Acura (yours are nicer) ... so you might have different ones for the new model, also.

In the movie can be noticed , front parking sensors, also .

I hope it will be an automatic DSG like gear box, too

ninjamyst

The tail lights are soooo ugly. Please fix it.

dinoc

Those are Tourer tail lights, you won't see them in Acura.

wackura

That's obviously pics of the Tourer so we don't know what the taillights will look like. Although I compared it to the Tourer concept model revealed last year and these pics are of a newer version. This car also has headlight washers.

I also think those gauges are demo dummies, aside from up/down not making sense, the framing looks opaque leaving no room for readouts and dummy lights.

dinoc

The same pics on a different website :
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080123....-accord-tourer

bluefang08

Yeah i bet the gauges would be different, on the TSX we have the same gauges that came from the Honda Inspire (last generation) which is the USDM accord.

So my guess is it would look something more like:
http://www.honda.co.jp/INSPIRE/fact/interior/?a

Just02

Those aren't bad; they're identical to the USDM Accord. I just hope the TSX uses LED gauge illumination... I love it on my Accord.


The Tourer doesn't look too bad. The Acura version better have some nicer creature comforts... like LED taillights and keyless access. lol :P

Hayduke

I hope the gauges look like the INSPIRE mentioned above, those are very nice. The teaser gauges look a lot like the current MDX, which I didn't like at all.

The beauty of the TSX (imho) is its clean, understated appearance. I find myself regularly impressed as to just how ergonomically perfect the TSX's interior is. Every button is where it should be (sans the sunroof button, what's up with that?!?!), stereo buttons near the stick shifter, the most used buttons closest to the driver. The new US Accord seems to stray from what I found one of Honda's strength, clean, uncluttered, ergonomically stellar interiors. The new Accord has far to many buttons. Hopefully the new TSX maintains the spirit of the current generation.

By the way, if the TSX had the RDX's turbo four (that engine rocks), it would be the perfect car. Can't wait to see the '09!!!

dereksmalls

The video has more visual clues....
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=1

archknight

I am just hoping they are going to truly separate the divisions and give us something exactly like the Sports4 for the TSX. The Tourer is nice looking but it looks more like a refresh than a totally new model which Acura is suppose to be unveiling. Having 2 different cars would actually coincide with the long awaited global launch of Acura which is suppose to happen in 2010.

GTSX-05

iTrader: (1)

whoa, I like those visual clues, I guess it re-assures everyones belief's on the styling.

dom

<--- Not reassured. I don't like what I see at all.

The Sports 4 was amazing. Why they went away from that?

LuvMyTSX

And that's what I was going to say. The next TSX may not even look anything like the Tourer. We may be surprised! that the TSX isn't based on the Accord anymore.

TSXdawg

Are those headlight washers on the front bumper?

LaZyPiGgY

Hmm, I don't know about you guys, but I love the subtle touch that our gauges start at 6 o'clock and end at 3 o'clock, really nice!

archknight

Are you serious LuvMyTSX? Where'd you hear or read that?