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Old 01-01-2008, 02:59 PM
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I think the TL will be shown at the NY auto show.
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Originally Posted by Ikko
I think the TL will be shown at the NY auto show.
I am guessing you will see the TSX at NY and maybe the MMC on the RL (that is if they don't show the RL at Chicago). And the TL will not be shown at an auto show before being on sale, but next LA show will have a big TL display after the introduction.
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Y'all need to back down on cg2006tsx. As stated, he was lurking to learn about the TSX before buying. Not a bad idea; pluses and minuses are discussed here endlessly. I also didn't detect the same a-hole whiffs you guys did, everyone's entitled to buy/lease the car they want for their circumstances. cg2006tsx was simply being candid about his purchase decision. In fact, the only flaming or vitriol I can see is directed AT cg2006tsx. Just my .

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Originally Posted by JeffS
I am guessing you will see the TSX at NY and maybe the MMC on the RL (that is if they don't show the RL at Chicago). And the TL will not be shown at an auto show before being on sale, but next LA show will have a big TL display after the introduction.
I don't agree.
The TSX will be presented in Geneva 2008 as the next gen Honda Accord.
Than, Acura will put on sell the TSX in April or May 2008 after the presentation in New York.
The TL was presented in NY 2003 as concept, and WILL be in the 2008 NY, as concept, presented officially at the end of August and put on sale in October 2008. Don't forget the TL is the MOST important model for Acura.
About the RL, I'm not sure at all that it will be presented this year. What? a mid model? Too late. A new one? Too much!! TSX, TL, RL, and what else?
Old 01-02-2008, 11:50 AM
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TSX should gave been ready for Detroit. The fact that it doesn't look like it will be possibly tells me something. A slight back to the drawing board for a stying tweak maybe?
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Not sure if this has been discussed at all so don't me to bad. But I had my TSX serviced last week and tried to pick my Advisor's brain about the new TSX and TL. He didn't know much as he said Acura is being tight lipped, but he did mention that items for a CSX, supposedly a coupe version of the TSX, are showing up in their service computers.
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Originally Posted by '06 Arctic
Not sure if this has been discussed at all so don't me to bad. But I had my TSX serviced last week and tried to pick my Advisor's brain about the new TSX and TL. He didn't know much as he said Acura is being tight lipped, but he did mention that items for a CSX, supposedly a coupe version of the TSX, are showing up in their service computers.

CSX is an Acura model sold in Canada. Basically a re badged Civic. Like most people who work at dealerships. Sounds like your service advisor knows nothing.
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Originally Posted by dom
CSX is an Acura model sold in Canada. Basically a re badged Civic. Like most people who work at dealerships. Sounds like your service advisor knows nothing.
Not surprising to say the least
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Originally Posted by dom
... Like most people who work at dealerships. Sounds like your service advisor knows nothing.
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I don't agree.
The TSX will be presented in Geneva 2008 as the next gen Honda Accord.
Than, Acura will put on sell the TSX in April or May 2008 after the presentation in New York.
The TL was presented in NY 2003 as concept, and WILL be in the 2008 NY, as concept, presented officially at the end of August and put on sale in October 2008. Don't forget the TL is the MOST important model for Acura.
About the RL, I'm not sure at all that it will be presented this year. What? a mid model? Too late. A new one? Too much!! TSX, TL, RL, and what else?
Yes, I agree with them showing the Accord (TSX for us) at Geneva and was referring to US showings only.

I forgot they showed the TL Concept back in 2003! Dah to me. So then we will see it in NY.

The RL is scheduled for a MMC this spring or summer, when info will be avail is the question.

It is going to be a busy time for Acura!!!!
Old 01-02-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Yes, I agree with them showing the Accord (TSX for us) at Geneva and was referring to US showings only.

I forgot they showed the TL Concept back in 2003! Dah to me. So then we will see it in NY.

The RL is scheduled for a MMC this spring or summer, when info will be avail is the question.

It is going to be a busy time for Acura!!!!
I don't understand how it can be a MMC for the RL. It was introduced in 2005, a year later than the TSX, so if it follows the same 5 year schedule, the MMC should have been 2007, and a FMC for the 2010 model year.
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An MMC on the RL is a total waste of money. And since Honda has already admitted to the RL not meeting their expectations. I doubt they'll change it. They'd be better off waiting to do a total redesign.
Old 01-02-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
An MMC on the RL is a total waste of money. And since Honda has already admitted to the RL not meeting their expectations. I doubt they'll change it. They'd be better off waiting to do a total redesign.
The RL's FMC should be 2010 if we go by the 5 year schedule anyway, right? I agree that they should just wait now, no sense in changing the current one at this point.
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
Y'all need to back down on cg2006tsx. As stated, he was lurking to learn about the TSX before buying. Not a bad idea; pluses and minuses are discussed here endlessly. I also didn't detect the same a-hole whiffs you guys did, everyone's entitled to buy/lease the car they want for their circumstances. cg2006tsx was simply being candid about his purchase decision. In fact, the only flaming or vitriol I can see is directed AT cg2006tsx. Just my .

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Couldn't agree more. Part of the reason I like coming here is the mostly friendly atmosphere, which is more than I can say for a few of the other Honda forums on the net.

It's 2008. I think we're all overdue for a fresh batch of TSX spy shots!

Someone message Chris Doane/Brenda Priddy and tell them to get back to work as soon as those rum-spiked egg nogs wear off!
Old 01-02-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
The RL's FMC should be 2010 if we go by the 5 year schedule anyway, right? I agree that they should just wait now, no sense in changing the current one at this point.
there wasen't a MMC in 2007 for the RL as scheduled. In the RL tread they are talking about an ALL new RL for the 2009 year model.
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Originally Posted by 5thTo2nd
Couldn't agree more. Part of the reason I like coming here is the mostly friendly atmosphere, which is more than I can say for a few of the other Honda forums on the net.

It's 2008. I think we're all overdue for a fresh batch of TSX spy shots!

Someone message Chris Doane/Brenda Priddy and tell them to get back to work as soon as those rum-spiked egg nogs wear off!
Only 2 months till the official presentation in Geneva. Expect for the middle february some good news, specs and photos...
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Originally Posted by krio
there wasen't a MMC in 2007 for the RL as scheduled. In the RL tread they are talking about an ALL new RL for the 2009 year model.
Well that's exactly what I mean....the RL didn't get a MMC, so why do it for the last year or two of the model? Why not just do a FMC in 2010 as planned? Makes more sense to me than doing a MMC at the end of the model's life.
Old 01-03-2008, 01:31 AM
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some news on the web, www.vtec.net.


Unless Acura's planning something in more secrecy than usual, they do not have plans to show anything new at Detroit.


2009 Acura TSX

We've seen some heavily disguised prototypes of the '09 TSX in a number of spy shots, but we don't know a whole lot more about this car than whatever's already been published here. Yet. That will change fairly soon, and the world will know the full details before the end of the 1st quarter (and ahead of the New York Auto Show). We've heard that the 2nd generation TSX will not disappoint current TSX fans, and it sounds like at least the base version will follow a very similar basic formula (FF, 4-cyl), but the rumored up-spec variant has yet to be confirmed.
Old 01-03-2008, 08:48 AM
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Looks like the RL is getting the MMC for 09 after all.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Well that's exactly what I mean....the RL didn't get a MMC, so why do it for the last year or two of the model? Why not just do a FMC in 2010 as planned? Makes more sense to me than doing a MMC at the end of the model's life.
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but you have to applaud Acura for at least trying to do all it can to get people to consider the slow-selling RL. They're apparently addressing a couple common complaints, namely, styling (lack thereof) and rear leg room. Hey, at least they're listening....

There's no doubt that 2007 was a super quiet year for Acura. Maybe they're freshening up the RL so that it doesn't look too dated beside the 09 TSX and TL when they are finally unveiled....would be really bad if you were to walk around the Acura booth at an autoshow and see 2 new sporty sedans beside a dated-looking flagship.
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They probably want to give it that shield like grill to make it match the rest of the line up. It's true that they're in a tough spot because suppose someone walks onto the lot looking at TLs, how is the salesmen supposed to talk them up to the RL with a straight face? Meanwhile people looking for RL class cars probably aren't even bothering to stop at an Acura dealer.
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Any rumblings of the RL getting more than 6 cylinders?
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Originally Posted by rb1
Any rumblings of the RL getting more than 6 cylinders?
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3998


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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Well that's exactly what I mean....the RL didn't get a MMC, so why do it for the last year or two of the model? Why not just do a FMC in 2010 as planned? Makes more sense to me than doing a MMC at the end of the model's life.
The Accord got a pretty big facelift during the last year of its cycle because of stiff competition from Toyota camry (guessing). So I am not surprised if Acura does the same thing to the RL. Hopefully, this won't become a trend.
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The Accord face lift looked realy nice, those tail lights catch my eye a lot. The old tailights have this creept smily face look to them. Reminded me of a fanny pack.
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Originally Posted by 5thTo2nd
... Maybe they're freshening up the RL so that it doesn't look too dated beside the 09 TSX and TL when they are finally unveiled....would be really bad if you were to walk around the Acura booth at an autoshow and see 2 new sporty sedans beside a dated-looking flagship.
That is exactly what they are doing. Rather than drop the RL, they have to update it and try to move up in size. power and stature in an attempt to keep it above the 09 TL until the next generation is here.

I am also guessing the RL will be on a longer than 5 year model run (again) to move its FMC away from the TSX and TL FMCs and bring out the next generation when they introduce Acura to the Japanese market. I would also expect the new NSX around the same time.
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Japan's getting acura?
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Yup, but the launch has been delayed just like the introduction of the new NSX....
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There has to be more information coming out soon because the 04 TSX was introduced in in early 03 so hopefully Acura wont keep us waiting much longer.
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Japan's getting acura?
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
There has to be more information coming out soon because the 04 TSX was introduced in in early 03 so hopefully Acura wont keep us waiting much longer.
I would expect info by the New York Auto Show in March.
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can't wait...
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i don't know how everyone feels about this, but personally, i like it when the auto company doesn't churn out new styling every two years as it (in my view) would tend to lower/depreciate the value of the vehicle quickly, no?
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There will be two trim levels available. Production starts in March for April delivery. More details are on my site.
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Originally Posted by Colin
There will be two trim levels available. Production starts in March for April delivery. More details are on my site.
And what site would that be?
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And what site would that be?
The one in my user profile
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Originally Posted by Colin
There will be two trim levels available. Production starts in March for April delivery. More details are on my site.
I can't wait to see one! I hope they look better then in the spy pics... especially the messy hood and small/unaggressive looking wheels, but those are the only gripes I have right now. They better have LED rear lights...


Do you know if the prices are going to go up significantly? Or will invoice prices remain within $500 of what they are now?
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From Colin's web site

"Standard TSX: The standard model will mirror the feature set on the base RDX. This means that the luxury features that are available on the current base TSX will carry over and be suplimented by "new luxury amenities and audio capabilities that will all contrubute the the new TSXs added appeal"

Technology Package: Again, this will mirror the feature set of the RDX Tech package and will include Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition with new functionality. AcuraLink Satellite Communication system (where XM is available), and a new 10 speaker Acura ELS Premium 10 speaker surround sound system.

There is no word on powertrains at this time and as I noted earlier, the first look at the new body design will come sometime in April. I'll be adding the available colors on Monday so watch this space for an update then."

This is my first post in many a moon. I love that the TSX is going to ELS. I have been loving it since first heard it in the 2004 TL.
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Thanks, Colin, for the great info!

I think this is exciting indeed! I surely hope that there will be more differences between the TSX and the Euro Accord though... but we shall see.

You know, if the RDX 2.3L turbo engine will be available, can you imagine how fast the new TSX will be? The RDX is fast already, and the TSX will be hundreds of pounds lighter with better aerodynamics too... just imagine that!!! :-)
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coupe, just please let there be a coupe.


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