doing my research and maybe buying a 2010 TSX...is this the best i'm going to do?
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2010 6MT non-tech
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doing my research and maybe buying a 2010 TSX...is this the best i'm going to do?
6 speed manual, non-tech, $26,000 before TTL, fees. in my state, it works out to $27,894 out the door. it sounds like this is a damn good deal, and also, it's tough to find non-tech manuals.
i haven't had the guy run the numbers on a 6 speed manual w/ tech, but he said it would tach about $2,500 onto the price, which would put me a little under $31,000 out the door.
i had an '05 TSX and sold it for an '07 S2000, but now things have changed yet again and i am looking to get back into a quieter cruiser that's still somewhat fun to drive. it won't be as fun as the S but i am also looking at reliability as a major selling point.
i am cross shopping the TSX with a 2010 accord coupe EX, and a Volkswagen GTI. i'm shying away from the GTI because it has that legendary VW reliability, and the accord is kind of my budget option at this point. i feel kind of dumb "downgrading" to an accord but maybe it's the right choice, financially. it would save me about ~$7,000 if i went that route.
thoughts?
i haven't had the guy run the numbers on a 6 speed manual w/ tech, but he said it would tach about $2,500 onto the price, which would put me a little under $31,000 out the door.
i had an '05 TSX and sold it for an '07 S2000, but now things have changed yet again and i am looking to get back into a quieter cruiser that's still somewhat fun to drive. it won't be as fun as the S but i am also looking at reliability as a major selling point.
i am cross shopping the TSX with a 2010 accord coupe EX, and a Volkswagen GTI. i'm shying away from the GTI because it has that legendary VW reliability, and the accord is kind of my budget option at this point. i feel kind of dumb "downgrading" to an accord but maybe it's the right choice, financially. it would save me about ~$7,000 if i went that route.
thoughts?
#2
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Sounds like a good deal to me, but it depends on your situation. If you need the $7000 bad enough, go for the Accord. It's still a sweet ride. It may not have everything the TSX has, but it's still a great car and $7k is a good chunk of money.
#3
Three Wheelin'
+1^ $7K is a big chunk of change. You still get a nice looking car, with 2 less doors and 1 less gear (Only the V6 model available with 6MT, all other 5MT). Suggest you take both out for a test drive and then decide.
#4
WTH happened to my garage
The Accord is a beautiful car, and as many timeless Honda designs go (a home run every other gen) it will serve you well in your skill set requirements.
#5
Burning Brakes
thats a good price for the tsx!
The MK6 GTI is also another good option, VW has shown increased reliability and the gti along with the jetta, CC, golf/rabbit, tiguan and passat are now consumer report recommended. the downside of the gti is once you add in all the options you are at a sticker price similar to a tsx tech
The MK6 GTI is also another good option, VW has shown increased reliability and the gti along with the jetta, CC, golf/rabbit, tiguan and passat are now consumer report recommended. the downside of the gti is once you add in all the options you are at a sticker price similar to a tsx tech
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#6
thats a good price for the tsx!
The MK6 GTI is also another good option, VW has shown increased reliability and the gti along with the jetta, CC, golf/rabbit, tiguan and passat are now consumer report recommended. the downside of the gti is once you add in all the options you are at a sticker price similar to a tsx tech
The MK6 GTI is also another good option, VW has shown increased reliability and the gti along with the jetta, CC, golf/rabbit, tiguan and passat are now consumer report recommended. the downside of the gti is once you add in all the options you are at a sticker price similar to a tsx tech
The only reason VW quality went up is because it could not get worse and go down.
#7
I think thats a great deal. I got my 09 tsx 6 spd for $31,000 (out the door price). Of course, I got it a few weeks after it came out. I like the Accord, but I just don't like the american made Hondas for some weird reason. Of course, it is reliable, efficient, etc, etc and you can get the Accord 6 Speed with V6 at the same or lower price than the TSX. I personally don't recommend any VW cars for reliablity and maintenance issues.
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thanks for the responses so far. yeah, i think under 28k out the door is a great deal.
yes, a loaded up GTI (similar to a normal TSX) will run mid to upper 20s. i got a decent ~24k OTD price with a DSG + bluetooth, but i too am worried about the little problems that have sprouted up already on the MKVI. i troll over at golfmk6.com and plenty of new owners seem to have the same little problems with their cars. it's one thing to buy used and have some little problems, but with new cars, i would expect it to be just isolated cases and not (seemingly) every car having the problem. to me, that's an actual design flaw and not just normal variance from the norm.
that said, the little MKVI was almost as fun to drive as the S2000. seriously couldn't tell it was FWD, and the torque was really nice (200 HP / 207 lb/ft from ~1800 - 5500 RPM). the car is also about 500 pounds lighter than the TSX.
that said, there are a lot of pinging engines, blown speakers, valet keys opening the trunk, and other small problems with the 2nd gen TSX. have all of those been fixed for 2010?
yes, a loaded up GTI (similar to a normal TSX) will run mid to upper 20s. i got a decent ~24k OTD price with a DSG + bluetooth, but i too am worried about the little problems that have sprouted up already on the MKVI. i troll over at golfmk6.com and plenty of new owners seem to have the same little problems with their cars. it's one thing to buy used and have some little problems, but with new cars, i would expect it to be just isolated cases and not (seemingly) every car having the problem. to me, that's an actual design flaw and not just normal variance from the norm.
that said, the little MKVI was almost as fun to drive as the S2000. seriously couldn't tell it was FWD, and the torque was really nice (200 HP / 207 lb/ft from ~1800 - 5500 RPM). the car is also about 500 pounds lighter than the TSX.
that said, there are a lot of pinging engines, blown speakers, valet keys opening the trunk, and other small problems with the 2nd gen TSX. have all of those been fixed for 2010?
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thanks for the responses so far. yeah, i think under 28k out the door is a great deal.
yes, a loaded up GTI (similar to a normal TSX) will run mid to upper 20s. i got a decent ~24k OTD price with a DSG + bluetooth, but i too am worried about the little problems that have sprouted up already on the MKVI. i troll over at golfmk6.com and plenty of new owners seem to have the same little problems with their cars. it's one thing to buy used and have some little problems, but with new cars, i would expect it to be just isolated cases and not (seemingly) every car having the problem. to me, that's an actual design flaw and not just normal variance from the norm.
that said, the little MKVI was almost as fun to drive as the S2000. seriously couldn't tell it was FWD, and the torque was really nice (200 HP / 207 lb/ft from ~1800 - 5500 RPM). the car is also about 500 pounds lighter than the TSX.
that said, there are a lot of pinging engines, blown speakers, valet keys opening the trunk, and other small problems with the 2nd gen TSX. have all of those been fixed for 2010?
yes, a loaded up GTI (similar to a normal TSX) will run mid to upper 20s. i got a decent ~24k OTD price with a DSG + bluetooth, but i too am worried about the little problems that have sprouted up already on the MKVI. i troll over at golfmk6.com and plenty of new owners seem to have the same little problems with their cars. it's one thing to buy used and have some little problems, but with new cars, i would expect it to be just isolated cases and not (seemingly) every car having the problem. to me, that's an actual design flaw and not just normal variance from the norm.
that said, the little MKVI was almost as fun to drive as the S2000. seriously couldn't tell it was FWD, and the torque was really nice (200 HP / 207 lb/ft from ~1800 - 5500 RPM). the car is also about 500 pounds lighter than the TSX.
that said, there are a lot of pinging engines, blown speakers, valet keys opening the trunk, and other small problems with the 2nd gen TSX. have all of those been fixed for 2010?
#10
2010 6MT non-tech
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well, i pulled the trigger this evening at rosenthal acura in gaithersburg, MD. the transaction was flawless, the salesman was knowledgeable, helpful, and honest, and the finance woman wasn't too pushy with any of the extras. 5 out of 5 across the board. i highly recommend them vs. some other dealers around the DC area. for me, it was worth the ~25-30 mile drive up to maryland tonight, instead of the ~3 mile drive to one of the competing dealers.
totally worth it, the car seems great, they matched my other offer for my S2000, and i am happy.
totally worth it, the car seems great, they matched my other offer for my S2000, and i am happy.
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Three Wheelin'
Congrats. Please post some pics when you have a moment.
What colour did you end up getting?
My aunt lives in Arlington, VA, so I have been to the DC/MD/VA area a number of times.
What colour did you end up getting?
My aunt lives in Arlington, VA, so I have been to the DC/MD/VA area a number of times.
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Congrats.
I had the same decision to make. I was coming from a 1998 Accord sedan. If I was single or didn't have kids, I would've opted for the v6 Accord coupe in the electric blue (hot looking for sure). I needed a sedan and went with the i4 TSX. Less power but only an issue when I have the entire family in it (and to be honest, still has more power than my i4 98 Accord). Love the car in every way.
I had the same decision to make. I was coming from a 1998 Accord sedan. If I was single or didn't have kids, I would've opted for the v6 Accord coupe in the electric blue (hot looking for sure). I needed a sedan and went with the i4 TSX. Less power but only an issue when I have the entire family in it (and to be honest, still has more power than my i4 98 Accord). Love the car in every way.
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Congrats.
I had the same decision to make. I was coming from a 1998 Accord sedan. If I was single or didn't have kids, I would've opted for the v6 Accord coupe in the electric blue (hot looking for sure). I needed a sedan and went with the i4 TSX. Less power but only an issue when I have the entire family in it (and to be honest, still has more power than my i4 98 Accord). Love the car in every way.
I had the same decision to make. I was coming from a 1998 Accord sedan. If I was single or didn't have kids, I would've opted for the v6 Accord coupe in the electric blue (hot looking for sure). I needed a sedan and went with the i4 TSX. Less power but only an issue when I have the entire family in it (and to be honest, still has more power than my i4 98 Accord). Love the car in every way.
honestly, the I4 engine is sweet with the manual gearbox. i wouldn't even consider the V6. sure, there's extra weight, but the main reason is that i honestly don't want 260 HP (probably more like 220-230 WHP) at the front wheels. the automatic 4-cyl seemed a bit sluggish (as most autos do) but the 6 speed is really responsive, and i have found myself north of 5,000 RPM a handful of times already. plus, i am a honda man at heart, so i'm used to having to be in the right gear at the right time for the right response and acceleration. it keeps me awake.
only 12 miles on the odometer when i took delivery, so i need to be gentle with the break-in and vary the engine speeds, etc.
it feels a bit more powerful than my '05 was, although it also feels a little heavier and more towards the TL's weight. however, it stays pretty composed on switchbacks, and it feels sure-footed.
i love the floating needle gauges, the iPod interface (i had like 70 burned CDs in my S2000, which by the way, doesn't even have a traditional glovebox), how it handles bumps, and the shifting action is just as i remember (crisp, but not as tight as the S). it's going to take me a little while to get used timing my shift technique properly. i also paired my phone with the bluetooth and it is very clear.
things i don't like (but knew going in): making the switch from RWD to FWD, and the whole convertible part.
now, time to get some tints all the way around.
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Hello, for comparison, I just bought a new 2010 4cyl TSX w/ tech. Exactly 32k, they included premium steering wheel, all weather floor mats, splash guards and no destination charge.
I traded down from a big SUV, so I am still adapting to the change. But I really enjoy the car so far, it reminds me a little of my 2003 WRX, but much more luxurious.
I traded down from a big SUV, so I am still adapting to the change. But I really enjoy the car so far, it reminds me a little of my 2003 WRX, but much more luxurious.
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Congrats! I bought my TSX at Rosenthal also. My experience there was pretty great also...I had negotiated everything beforehand, so the transaction was very straightforward when I got there.
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the biggest tell is that other car salesmen still had my phone # so they have called me over the past week or so, and when i tell them that i'm no longer in the market for a new car, most of them just hang up. they don't ask what i bought, why i bought from where, or congratulate me. it kind of cements the fact that 98% of car salesmen are just a-holes.
that said, one guy from Pohanka actually asked me all of those questions, congratulated me, and said if i needed any service done that they were closer and that i should take it to them. maybe he was genuinely nice, or maybe he was still acting in a self-serving manner, but either way, it was WAY classier than some of the other salesmen.
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