Speed2000

This is vinyl film with brushed aluminum finish. Hoping this will help keep the inside cooler and maybe get some Obama "green technology" money because this will solve global warming

defconskylude

id pass

looks like a mini

audi has chrome mirrors. try it there and see how it looks

id try those aluminum vinyls for interior panels.

coffeefingers

Looks like you got into a car accident and had to replace the roof with a silver one from a junkyard TSX donor. LOL.

Vinyl film the whole car to match...then you would have a...silver car. LOL.

defconskylude

now that would be interesting. the whole entire car being aluminum brushed

roof vinyl costs about like $400. i wasnt sure if you work at a vinyl shop or not.

Speed2000

I have a paint protection film business so it cost me like $70 to do it myself. Have some race cars lined up for it, they are interested in keeping the heat down inside the cars so I figured I'd best practice on my ride first so I know what to charge...$400? I like the sound of that!

defconskylude

ah makes sense. ya man. here in Los Angeles, they charge $400-600 for the roof

if you're a brooooo, then you get good discount brooooooo....if you know what i mean.

HondoGermany

Like the idea from defcon,
the brushed aluminium could look great for the interior.
Maybe its to thick for small decors and the curves in the interior???

MCDavis

OK I have to ask...does that vinyl have heat reflective properties? Or is just straight plastic?
The color of paint, etc has little to no effect on the temperature of a car sitting out in the sun. It's still metal at the end of the day. White or black or red or silver, the car is going to be HOT regardless of exterior color.

saucy

Hey speed, how much for a cut of final that I could use for my front grill? Where is your shop located?

Speed2000

Its pretty reflective. Yesterday on the way home, I had to turn my A/C down...twice, something I don't recall ever doing, and only thought about the film once I started to get cold a third time. The outside temp was 98.

Guess I'll need to find another wagon with tint, throw thermometers in both cars and see it theres a difference. Have to find one with a tinted windshield just to make it fair....

misu

I like it, my car is silver (or blue ) so it won't make a difference but I would be interested in doing it for my black truck.

HeavyDuty

The paint color does have some effect on interior temperature, living in Florida most of my life, I aint kidding.

Go to any car in a parking lot at lunch, touch a black one, then a white one. Until we got our Odyssey, I've cursed myself with a half dozen black cars.

That's also why the original FJ and now the 07 FJ Cruisers came with white roofs.

Honda_boy83

I think you should also do the hood!

Speed2000

Big time, over 30 degrees cooler.

Mr. NC

^^^ Thats insane, guess it works some how.

High polish finish would be dope as fcuk.

saucy

Very interesting Speed, thanks for getting this info for us.

HeavyDuty

Do yall remember the Tackademics Mischief 3000 polished M3?

Mr. NC

^ I remember seeing an MB that was high polish finished and it looked dooooope it was an SL 63 I think in a European car show

KillerG

you know what i wanna see? a tsx wrapped in full 3m matte white vinyl

Speed2000

Better look quick, matte finish film is near impossible to clean.

HeavyDuty

What a F-Tard, Teckademics, not Tackademics.

hornyleprechaun

I could do it.. Have 20% around and 35% front. I also live very close to your shop

HondoGermany

I saw a BMW in matte white, it looks awesome.
But 2000€ for vinyl the hole car is MUCH too expensive for me!

Speed2000

Tried a few interior bits, and since I've already stuffed the bottom of the door, figured that could use some protection. This stuff sticks like mad to smooth surfaces, but not so well where its at now on the textured parts.

hornyleprechaun

Interested what this looks like in person. May have to stop by your business at some point!

I clayed my front bumper this morning and realized how many rock chips it already has..

TeKNiC3

I think that the temperature difference is due the to color variance.

HeavyDuty

Ya think?

MCDavis

I somehow missed this a few weeks back. I think I wasn't clear in my statement. I was speaking towards the interior temperature of the car, and that inside temp not being greatly affected if at all by the exterior color of the car. Sure the surface temp of the exterior metal is likely to be different because dark colors absorb light thus heat. My statement was directed at those car buyers that think a black car is going to be hotter, inside, than a white or light colored car and thus sway their color choice based solely on that affect, which is likely negligible.
Thanks for taking the time to take pics, as this is quite interesting.

HeavyDuty

One way to find out. Take identical new black & white cars, put a thermometer in each, record temps sitting in the same spot at the same time for the same length of time. Do the same with the engine running & same HVAC setting, record that too.

I think that's the reason the old school Toyota FJ's had white roofs, the new school buses the same.

I understand what you're saying, with the a/c on, what's the difference? I agree with that, but lighter cars require less cooling to maintain the same temp.

Speed2000

Exactly...I'm getting in new cars all the time at the dealerships...sometimes you can't even touch the friggin steering wheel its so hot. Sure its still hot inside a light colored car, but there is a big enough difference you can tell just by the seat of your pants.

MCDavis

You make a good point... but both the FJ40 and the buses are uninsulated roofs. Between the headliner, door insulation, and all the other crap in the panels of these vehicles these days the paint color should not make a significant difference in interior temps.

Now, I will say that leather color does contribute. The wife's CBP has parchment leather, and my dark blue truck sports black perforated leather, and my seats are always hotter than hers when parked side by side. Basically, there are too many variables that contribute to heat, but I'll still stand by my thoughts that paint color ALONE should not make a vehicle hotter or colder than the same vehicle in another color.

Good discussion guys...hope your day is going well!

HeavyDuty

Not to beat a dead horse, but during my semi-retirement midlife crisis, I bought one of those dumba$$ FJ's, and it was the TRD SE model, all black, black roof. It had a headliner & it took forever for it to cool off in Florida.

Stewpid truck family sportster & "Canyon Man" below.



A FB with an FJ had a regular one, (hers was a regular one, black with the white roof) and I froze my fata$$ off while driving it. So much so that I took mine to Toyota to check the cooling efficiency. The tech called me in the back, showed me the thermometer in the vents on mine and another regular one next to mine. Identical cooling, 40 degrees below ambient.

Only difference? White roof.

ed_423

is that you HD? haha

HeavyDuty

The fat, bald guy looking like a tard out at the beach?

Yup, yours truly.

cisobe

Ok the nerd in me wants to comment on the color of the car not affecting the temperature in the car comment :P

I'm an architect, and all the liturature i've read on roof design and materials states that roof color and material directly contribute to the heat gain of a roof. Building roof materials have whats called a SRI number (Solar Reflectance Index) which rates the amount of solar radiation is reflected from a material (based on both the material qualities and color).

If I chose a single ply roof membrane (typical commercial construction for flat/low slope roofs) for a given building and had the choice of either a White finish or a Dark black finish (of the same material). The White finish would perform much better in reflecting solar radiation, thus lowering the amount of heat absobed by and conducted through the roof and into the building.

The same concept would be applied to the color of a car. Given the exterior material being the same (steel for the car), the color of the surface would be the only variable that would affect the amount of heat absorbed by the roof.

The amount of insulation in the cars roof does help minimize the amount of heat going through, but as the surface temperature of the car's roof increases, more and more heat from the roof will be transfered into the car's interior.

Mr. NC

^ Deep shit bro

Makes sense tho

T-jay

I heard 3m uv window tint keeps the interior from getting. I think im gonna try it out.

HeavyDuty

The 06 Alti SE-R, the 07 FJ, the 07 Si & the 09 TSX had 15% on the windshield. BIG difference.