Wheel fitment specialists make your way to this thread please.
#41
I see no where where he is policing. Just giving out information that is good and safe information. You telling another member to stfu is ridiculous and not called for.
#44
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Edward... its not like we're telling the OP to put like.. 215/35/19's on his 19x8.5.. even tho it'lll be like.. almost perfect..
im telling him to put a 225/35/19 and most 225/35/19 can fit on any 19x8.5.. thats like the smallest/safest width you can go for 19x8.5
Edward... its not like we're telling the OP to put like.. 215/35/19's on his 19x8.5.. even tho it'lll be like.. almost perfect..
im telling him to put a 225/35/19 and most 225/35/19 can fit on any 19x8.5.. thats like the smallest/safest width you can go for 19x8.5
#45
Just wondering. Could insurance companies deny a claim if you were at fault on an accident that involved sliding or skidding etc or bad road conditions with a car with stretched tires. I mean, i know they can deny claims all day, but would having a tire not approved for a particular wheel width give them cause to deny a claim? I heard of them doing that for people with 5% tint all around and having tinted windshields..etc
#50
It's lucky that this forum doesn't automatic lock and/or delete threads that promote tire stretching, other popular wheel & tires forums do.
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#56
this thread is pretty epic...lol
to stretch...or not to stretch...that is the question...
u can get away with driving aggressive with a mild stretch...say 225/40s on 18x8...
slamming ur car does mean u have to drive slow...mayb...but if u know ur roads...u should b able to smash everywhere...it just sux when i comes to smog checks...im in that pickle...too lazy to raise it up
those daytons have a hUUUge sidewall...definitely different than the stretching we r talking bout...
to stretch...or not to stretch...that is the question...
u can get away with driving aggressive with a mild stretch...say 225/40s on 18x8...
slamming ur car does mean u have to drive slow...mayb...but if u know ur roads...u should b able to smash everywhere...it just sux when i comes to smog checks...im in that pickle...too lazy to raise it up
those daytons have a hUUUge sidewall...definitely different than the stretching we r talking bout...
#57
i dont care either way whether or not anyone wants or needs to stretch... but if the tire sidewall stops touching the lip of the rim like it does on that VW^^, it just looks retarded and if the driver doesnt mind... who cares...
#58
Correct, 225/35/19 on a 8.5" wide rim is still within factory's recommedation, whereas on a 9.5" wide rim is not.
Below "Approved Rims" information is taken directly from the various Falken's Sizes and Specifications webpages inside "www.falkentire.com".
Please note the term "APPROVED RIMS" as used by Falken, so anything narrower or wider than the specified rim width range is NON-APPROVED by Falken.
Falken FK452 , (225/35/19), APPROVED RIMS (7.5 - 9.0)
Azenis ST-115,(225/35/19), APPROVED RIMS (7.5 - 9.0)
Below "Approved Rims" information is taken directly from the various Falken's Sizes and Specifications webpages inside "www.falkentire.com".
Please note the term "APPROVED RIMS" as used by Falken, so anything narrower or wider than the specified rim width range is NON-APPROVED by Falken.
Falken FK452 , (225/35/19), APPROVED RIMS (7.5 - 9.0)
Azenis ST-115,(225/35/19), APPROVED RIMS (7.5 - 9.0)
To the O.P. those wheels will be fine if you drop. My 9.5 in the rear sticks out like 3 inches if its at stock height.
#59
What I don't what to see is that unsuspecting novices, who come into the forum looking for advices, and are told that it is OK to mount tires on rim widths which are not approved by tire manufacturers, but without fully aware of the risk involved.
Just keep in mind of the infamous Ford-Explorer/Firestone-tire lawsuit, in which Ford didn't follow Firestone's tire inflation recommendations and deliberately deflated the Firestone tires on all Ford Explorer's in order to compensate for the SUV's high speed instability (caused by suspension design faults). The results were that at high speed, tires came off the rims, SUV's rolled all over the roads, and many precious lives were lost.
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#64
i dont understand the controversy here...
the thread title sais "wheel experts make your way here" so u click it and look inside. and the thread starter asked for help on how to fit his current setup once he lowers. in the pics its obvious that the current fitment looks like rubbish so he needs to take certain actions for a certain look. nowhere in his thread does he ask for for everyones opinions on tire stretching?? and when i think of "wheel experts" i think of the small small hand full of people who have gone through a few sets of wheels at the minimum to know and understand the limits of our cars. if u havnt done that, i dont think he was talking to you. if he wanted a "wheel expert" that told him what he should have bought, or the cookie cutter wheel setup, you should have simply posted a link to tirerack.
all im getting at is none of us (III,jasha,phro,etc) go onto threads where people have posts about there set ups with big meaty tires and super high offsets and try to sway there opinion. i just think its dumb to "call out" the people who know the limits of our car regarding wheels and tires, then slam them when they offer advice. advice that they have spent alot of money and time to gain the knowledge.
also, our TL's are not meant to be driven fast. its a luxury sedan. sell your car and buy an AWD or RWD drive car. people are just as likely to lose control and understeer into a tree as it is likely that their stretched tire will rip apart.
the thread title sais "wheel experts make your way here" so u click it and look inside. and the thread starter asked for help on how to fit his current setup once he lowers. in the pics its obvious that the current fitment looks like rubbish so he needs to take certain actions for a certain look. nowhere in his thread does he ask for for everyones opinions on tire stretching?? and when i think of "wheel experts" i think of the small small hand full of people who have gone through a few sets of wheels at the minimum to know and understand the limits of our cars. if u havnt done that, i dont think he was talking to you. if he wanted a "wheel expert" that told him what he should have bought, or the cookie cutter wheel setup, you should have simply posted a link to tirerack.
all im getting at is none of us (III,jasha,phro,etc) go onto threads where people have posts about there set ups with big meaty tires and super high offsets and try to sway there opinion. i just think its dumb to "call out" the people who know the limits of our car regarding wheels and tires, then slam them when they offer advice. advice that they have spent alot of money and time to gain the knowledge.
also, our TL's are not meant to be driven fast. its a luxury sedan. sell your car and buy an AWD or RWD drive car. people are just as likely to lose control and understeer into a tree as it is likely that their stretched tire will rip apart.
#67
btw, that ripped sidewall is from under-inflation of tires.
going stretch u should run 5psi more than usual. i run 42psi and it doesn't make it "unsafe" as long as you're doing it right.
and running stretch v.s running normal v.s running meaty is all preference. don't go calling a preference stupid; when we start doing that the forum becomes an unwelcoming place (something acurazine is known to NOT be).
anyways u won't be able to run flush or semi poke, with meaty/normal tires, and be slammed. that's the main reason many of us do it. you try to do flush set up without stretching tires and being low then you come back here and tell me how you did it because its impossible without rubbing.
trust me that's why people stretch... other reason is to stiffen sidewalls for drifting.
going stretch u should run 5psi more than usual. i run 42psi and it doesn't make it "unsafe" as long as you're doing it right.
and running stretch v.s running normal v.s running meaty is all preference. don't go calling a preference stupid; when we start doing that the forum becomes an unwelcoming place (something acurazine is known to NOT be).
anyways u won't be able to run flush or semi poke, with meaty/normal tires, and be slammed. that's the main reason many of us do it. you try to do flush set up without stretching tires and being low then you come back here and tell me how you did it because its impossible without rubbing.
trust me that's why people stretch... other reason is to stiffen sidewalls for drifting.
Last edited by LIPPSTUH; 05-30-2009 at 07:29 PM.
#69
more psi on stretched tires
more psi on normal setup
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