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Wanna lower my car with springs for now till im able to afford coilovers. Is this a good buy for my 03 tl? this is the link below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Acura-...705b0f&vxp=mtr

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I believe the brand name is iKon autoparts.

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this is another sketchy option.anybody know these brands and their quality?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-RED-Acura-99-04-TL-01-03-CL-Adjustable-Lowering-Coilover-Coil-Springs-Kit/290765868985?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17721%26meid%3D1564986775540514614%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8208%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D290570690813%26

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trying to figure out what brand of lowering springs for my 03 tl are the cheapest to buy but the most durable and reliable. xyz tuning and iKon autoshop have been products ive been looking at on ebay. Not sure if theyre generic parts or the real deal. ANYBODY HELP?

randomthought

As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Save up and go for a set of coilovers if you can, otherwise H&R or Eibach would be a good choice. Should also look into a set of shocks as well since you will be pulling them out anyways. Do it right the first time.

Check out the black market and sponsored group buys section for some deals as well.

jjashaa

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don't go cheap

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Thanks guys. Coilovers was an option in mind after a while though so i can get the high quality ones. maybe some teins or eibach. Problem is i spoke to a hook up i have within the acura dealership and he told me coilovers put mor strain on my axles and other things that the lowering springs didnt. Anybody know xyz tuning? i looked into it and saw its made in taiwan along with d2. Their price is fairly cheap. Not worth the buy?

HairyMonkey019

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The guy at the dealer sounds dumb and misinformed you. It's not what you use to lower the car that stresses out parts, it's how low you go that does.

The lower you go= the more stress it is on parts.

3.2TLc

Dealers normally advice against any sort of suspension modification involving lowering. It supposedly upsets the engineered geometry and places undue stress on other associated components. Sorta makes some sense as HairyMonkey019 previously stated.

The entire steering and suspension is affected more significantly the lower ya go to the road. Changes all the manufacturer's setpoints and may adversely affect the ride quality. Gravitational pull and an altered central apex.

Needless to say, doing any of this on a 10 year old car with worn parts......something has gotta give if the modifications are done in a half-fast manner. Listen to the pros on here who know their stuff for the best overall results when modding.

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damn...thats a really good argument. so then i shouldnt waste money and efforts on decent springs for the time being until i get me some good coilovers? dnt wanna look like a ricer with the boot lip spoiler and a roofline spoiler at stock height :/

Excelerate

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TEIN has a high quality lowering spring that is reasonably priced.

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/tein/b-10103.aspx

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Any other input from members is still more than welcomed. want to get the best bargain i can for good or decent quality lowering springs.

Skirmich

I would go with Springs + Adjustable Struts =
H&R Springs + TOKICO ILUMINAS or KYB AGX its the way to go..
*coughIgotThem^cough*

The H&R perhaps isn't LOW AS SHIT! but it doesn't need any new parts like Adjustable camber kit or else.. Its drop on, bolt on no questions asked.. Install them get alignment and your good to go.. Drive around and adjust your struts because it will ride like crap on the Stock settings of the strut.. At least the ILUMINAS did...

The adjustability of the Aftermarket struts will offset the overall stiffness of the new springs! Also adjustable Struts are made to be lowered so they will last longer than ANY OEM strut.

Lower? Well Lower than 2" with any OEM like strut will make you a sad panda! And perhaps will need a camber kit so isn't that "Bolt-on"..

I would not ride Lower springs with any OEM/OEM Like Strut, EVER...

Hope that helps!

3.2TLc

Yeah, if you're on a tight budget....consider used better brand parts. Check out the Black Market for some good deals !!!

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THIS IS GOLD! thanks guys. this is the kinda wisdom and insight i need on the subject. I honestly dont wanna slam my car either tho. i just wanna give it a mean look, so id say droppin it about 1.5-2.5 inches. and for the tight budget factor...indeed i need some good deals. THANKS ^_^

randomthought

As stated, go for used parts if you want to save some money. I have tein SS coilovers that were bought used for 540. I have yet to buy any camber kits as well, since I didn't slam my car, just a moderate drop. Lasted me years so far.

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Thts badass. im hoping for lowering springs for right now. im just wondering if just geting the springs is all i need. i have stock shocks and struts and all.

HairyMonkey019

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you put lowering springs on old shocks, they will wear out faster and WILL need replacing. Might as well save for coilovers than to half ass it then go all out. Don't buy springs for a temporary drop just cuz you wanna be with the in crowd.

Skirmich

^ Coilovers have 1 big CON to consider..
What happens when it dies?

Springs + Adjustable Struts have its advantages instead of getting 1 used coil over or try to rebuild it (If possible) when they get shot, You only get an adjustable Strut again for example! and if they get mixed right (Spring + Strut) they will outperform a CHEAP COILOVER..

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So in general, how much are the adjustable struts in combo with decent springs?

Skirmich

^^ As much as a Cheap Coil-over (Aka FF1) with no adjustable Damping...
But I would not get FF1 EVER.. That thing is hard on the ride as a cheap B* on a BJ...

Springs = 200-250 bucks
Adjustable Struts = 500 bucks x 4...

= 750 bucks +/-

If you can get used Springs that would make it cheaper..
Adjustable shocks ARE EXPENSIVE nothing you can do about it :/

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holy shit dude, u werent kidding o.o thts expensive as balls! :/ what if i buy the springs and then down the line get the adjustable struts? how long do i have more or less with a reliable brand spring without anything breaking?

Skirmich

To be cheaper get Tokico Blues or Koni Yellows (both support lowering springs)..

HairyMonkey019

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Ff2 s are cheaper than that. I'm pretty sure used teins are closer to thatprice

Skirmich

^^ Where :S ?? Found a dealer selling them at 850 bucks with no Shipping..

EBay got them at 850 + 400 shipping !!

jjashaa

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in the end... its worth the extra money..

went from a $900 coilover to a $1500 coilover on my car and man.. the difference is noticeable.

usmcordie

Hey All,

I have a 1996 Acura TL 3.2 that the previous owner slammed so low that it is problematic and I am having issues with the front end and dragging. I am trying to get this car back to its stock stance so if any of you have a resource for OEM springs (new/used) I would appreciate your advise.

jjashaa

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^ what you want to do is head over to the 1st generation side

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tl-1996-1998-101/

usmcordie

Thanks for the guidance JJASHAA... I am all over trying to get some height back on this slammed Gen 1 before my girlfriend has to do another winter in this car....

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usmcordie, u can go to rockauto.com and get all oem parts for your car. and for the rest of u guys.. damn. im done my fair amount of research as well on these coilovers and springs n the cheapest i found teins was for like 180 new. but theyre for the accord :/ i understand y car aficionados take so much pride in their cars...it take hard work thats why. :o and so..whjat is the cheapest used teins u guys have seen out there? and tokico blue or koni yellows..? how effective are they?

Skirmich

About the Tokico Blue I can tell you is a little bit firmer vs KYB OEM Style specially if you are already riding the TL-p which has a softer spring but same OEM strut as the TL-S.. When you make the switch you will lose shit tons of ride and I mean it..

TL-p vs TL-S was already noticeable by the stiffer springs and Roll bars.. When you ADD Teins (Which by default are a little bit stiffer than TL-S springs) and Tokico Yellows you will get 100% Racing Suspension = RIDE HARD AS HELL but at least not bouncy like civics..

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so by riding hard as hell, you mean a good thing or will it feel like im free-fallin in a tank n stuff? ._.

bonknhead

I can't speak for the transition from the TL-P stock suspension to an aftermarket suspension, but I can tell you that going from H&R Sport springs and Tokico HPs (aka "blues") from my stock TL-S suspension was a great transition. It's a more controlled ride and is NOT HARSH at all (not like falling in a tank, LOL). It's firm and tight. I don't notice how nice and controlled the ride was until I rent a car/SUV/etc., when traveling. I really miss my TL-S then.

BTW, I bought my Tokico Blues from Excelerate four years ago, for just over $300 shipped. They're probably a bit more expensive nowadays and if you're not going lllooowww, I think they'll suffice for most lowering springs.

Skirmich

Have you seen those super low ass Civics that bounce with every road curve? Well not like that..

Its Sporty like but the TL-p has such a soft suspension (Great for Long Drives) that you will notice how hard it gets (Transition from Soft to half-hard suspension).. Us TL-S owners just feel a little bit "Tighter" since there is less suspension travel when lowered.. Damping feels the same regardless (Comparing OEM type Adjustment in them).. Its all about Spring Rates.

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woah :"D i gotta learn more about cars dude. I love the subject and i do what i can on my own. and lol bonknhead. ik u like that metaphor. But anywho, bottom line is that i shouldnt get tein springs and use my stock struts no matter how good they could be, i should just wait till i can afford the whole deal and go all out?

Skirmich

I would install them all at once.. But that's me do what's best for you!

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yea, i feels u. im just so psyched on modding my car. not to jumbo fried rice levels either tho.

Skirmich

Reminds me of my very First brake job on the TL..









I waited almost 2 months to gather everything (Minus the Legend Calipers they came later on)..

Its so satisfying to install everything in 1 go so you can have everything brand new and notice all the improvements.. Hence I only do upgrades like that in a single run now..

HairyMonkey019

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Do what Skirmich does and wait until you have the funds to get what you want. It makes it easier to do since you just do everything in one shot rather than going back and forth.

Remember not all coilovers are the same, and you get what you pay for. If you want to just lower your car with height adjustability I would go with Tein coilovers since many members have said they are soft.

But if you want to slam I say function form... but that's because idk other ones that would take you as low. That's pretty much why I went with those, plus they're cheap :P and are located extremely close to me, so I brought my coilovers directly to them for warranty.

You're gonna have to search around to see what you would like.