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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Koni Yellows

Well yesterday i got the chance to play around and finally install them. (Thanks Excelerate, and no i didnt make a diy)

When coupled to the H&R sport springs the ride is phenomenal. I rides far better than the KYBs i had. The ride is smooth and very compliant, turn in and response is much better and much more responsive. There is less roll and dive and i have reduced axle hop by a good 70%. This all on the softest setting. On the firmest setting the ride is still good, but it does like to let you know of the expansion joints and dips in the road (a little to firm for daily driving). This setting the car is very track orientated. Havent played with mixing and matching settings much but i will as time goes.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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I can't wait to see you kill those twisties at a road racing event. Definately an upgrade, great buy.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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I can't wait to see you kill those twisties at a road racing event. Definately an upgrade, great buy.
This sunday!!! But its supposed to rain
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Does it lower your car any bit or still the same? I think the Illumina's lower your car a bit if i remember right.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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I run mine on the street at 1/3 firmness and it feels great.

I just wish I could get at the rear adjusters without pulling the rear seat.

I love my Konis!

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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Does it lower your car any bit or still the same? I think the Illumina's lower your car a bit if i remember right.
Yes and No. There is a normal height perch and a 20mm lower perch. If you get the Neuspeed SP3 konis there are 5 perch combos.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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I run mine on the street at 1/3 firmness and it feels great.

I just wish I could get at the rear adjusters without pulling the rear seat.

I love my Konis!
I think im going to make a small hole in the rear deck to access it easier with the knob
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This sunday!!! But its supposed to rain


Videos please. Which perch did you set yours to?
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Videos please. Which perch did you set yours to?
I still dont have a camcorder. Ill try.

Stock perch. I will play around with it and see how i like it on the lower one.

Oh i also set the rebound setting 1.5 rotations and the dampening 2f2r
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Sweet! Have fun!
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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lucky.. i wish i could afford konis..

how much did they run you from excelerate?
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I think im going to make a small hole in the rear deck to access it easier with the knob
I've thought about this. I think you can fabricate a little home made plug. Might take some trial and error, but pretty sure you could come up with something no one would notice on casual inspecection.

Also, if you can find them, look for the knob w/line adjustment system that comes with the Megan Coilovers. Gives you, say, 4 - 6 inches of extra reach to the dampening adjuster. Do NOT know if they'd fit the Koni adjuster knobs.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks again Kris and you're welcome.

Originally Posted by Leo Type-S
lucky.. i wish i could afford konis..

how much did they run you from excelerate?
We have pricing on the KONI's on our web store at http://store.excelerateperformance.com

Also if you don't mind waiting for a couple weeks just get the KONI SP3 shocks; they have more perches and a shortened shaft for lowering springs. They are $580 shipped to the cont US
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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i love my koni's. i rode on the lowest setting for about 2 months and found it to be too harsh (225/35/19 tires). it rides much better on the stock perch. I'd like to know if you have the same sentiments fsttyms1
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I havent gotten them on the lowest setting yet. I will probably try today when i install my new sways. I have 18s and H&Rs and dont think it will be to harsh, but i will find out and post back. Superb. When you installed the shocks did you adjust the rebound of the shock before installing them (flipping the shock and compressing it to adjust)?? I have 360/180 deg of turn on mine and the top damp adjust i have 2/1 turns on and it rides great. Full soft its better than stock for smooth.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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NiCE!! Sounds like a good setup!
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Superb. When you installed the shocks did you adjust the rebound of the shock before installing them (flipping the shock and compressing it to adjust)?? I have 360/180 deg of turn on mine and the top damp adjust i have 2/1 turns on and it rides great. Full soft its better than stock for smooth.
I tried to adjust them, but wasnt noticing any difference in the rebound rate. But after I installed them, I realized I didn't turn them enough. for the tops i have the same 2/1 turns and find that to be very comfy
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Initially I had mine on low and it was very harsh and my 225 50 17's scraped I put it in the middle and it was better but a bit harsh and still some scraping, at the higest perch it is a like stock and no scraping.

At 1/3 firmness it is a perfect balance between firm and soft.

I love that I can totally change the setup from high/soft to low/firm.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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bump for Koni Yellows, those are the ultimate badboys.......TRACK SUPERB
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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if i wasnt getting coilovers i would be getting konis
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Damn, I wish I forked over the money for some Koni's instead.

Kris, How'd your track day go?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JCharged
Damn, I wish I forked over the money for some Koni's instead.

Kris, How'd your track day go?
Either on Konis or something with adjustability
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I havent gotten them on the lowest setting yet. I will probably try today when i install my new sways. I have 18s and H&Rs and dont think it will be to harsh, but i will find out and post back. Superb. When you installed the shocks did you adjust the rebound of the shock before installing them (flipping the shock and compressing it to adjust)?? I have 360/180 deg of turn on mine and the top damp adjust i have 2/1 turns on and it rides great. Full soft its better than stock for smooth.
In order to change the rebound, you have to take the strut out every time?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JCharged
Damn, I wish I forked over the money for some Koni's instead.

Kris, How'd your track day go?
Never made it. It was forecast to rain and none of my friends wanted to go
Here is a vid from that day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOd0yw961eA

Follow this link and go to shawano lapping day 2008 and there is 1 clip with my car in it, but some great footage of others.
http://www.paulelertson.com/video_pa..._playlist.html




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In order to change the rebound, you have to take the strut out every time?
Yea, its not something you really need to adjust often, but it would be nice for that adjustment to be external. Damp can be adjusted with a turn of the knob.
http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.cfm
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That vid looks like it would've been a fun session!
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^^^Werd. I had H&R w/Koni adjustable setup on my old Legend. It was an awesome ride. I would've went that route in a heartbeat if I didn't get coilovers.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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I would kill to be able to do something like those videos Kris posted in my car...
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Old May 9, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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How could I have missed this thread?!?!

I love my Koni Yellows. They're not on the 2G TL but rather my 02 Z28. Combined with lowering springs, it rides like stock but handles incredibly well. Many people who ride in the car are surprised by the gentle ride. Nosedive under braking and squat during acceleration is much less exaggerated. The car now corners flat, instead of leaning out of the turns.

According to a vendor on another site, the lower spring perch is recommended only for stock springs, in order to lower the car just a bit without actually getting lowering springs. Not sure how it is on the TL but the vendor lowering it over 1.5" AND using the lower spring perch could result in premature shock failure.

IMO the firmest setting is way too stiff, I guess its an option if you use it on the lower spring perch or you have adjustable coilover sleeves, and your suspension travel is pretty much nonexistent.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Did you ever make the hole? I pulled my seat yesterday to make it firmer and it looked like I would not be able to reach the adjuster and I don't want to make holes for nothing.

I'd really like to be able to adjust without pulling the seat (although I took the opportunity to fully clean/condition/protect the seat with numerous leather products.

I agree, IGTC firmest rattles my fillings & hurts my kidneys.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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I was going to get koni str.t's but found a really good deal on some yellows. When I go to install, I'll probably try to fashion something up to prevent the need to take out the rear seats to adjust the shocks. I'll post an update after I get back from vacation and install.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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I never made the hole due to the knob being to short to reach it, though i am making something to reach it with and attach to the knob.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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I thought so, thanks.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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just got some koni yellows with h&r springs... did you ever try the lower perch setting? which perch did you prefer with the h&r springs?
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AndroidTL
just got some koni yellows with h&r springs... did you ever try the lower perch setting? which perch did you prefer with the h&r springs?
I have the H&R Sport springs installed and awaiting the Koni Yellows! Can't wait to do the install. We be sure to post pics.
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 09:12 AM
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just got some koni yellows with h&r springs... did you ever try the lower perch setting? which perch did you prefer with the h&r springs?
The lower perch is 20mm lower. It didnt really change the ride of the car at all. Any difference can be made up with adjusting the dampening settings.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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curious what setting you have your koni's on for rebound fsttyms1? All this wheel hop talk makes me think a stiffer rebound would help?
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is koni sports with ground control sleeves better or should i get a real coilover setup?
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Old May 14, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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curious what setting you have your koni's on for rebound fsttyms1? All this wheel hop talk makes me think a stiffer rebound would help?
Honestly, i dont remember where im at now. It was somewhere in like 3-4 clicks (shock off car, spring off shock shock inverted and compressed)
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Old May 14, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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is koni sports with ground control sleeves better or should i get a real coilover setup?
What are you going for with stance?
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Old May 15, 2015 | 12:46 AM
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ill be running bmw 7 series wheels 9Jx19 ET15 / 10Jx19 ET15 im thinking of running like a 235 40 in front and 245 40 in the rear? i want the bottom of the fender to line up with the wheel so kinda tucking tire. but would want to do the same on 18s
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