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Old 07-20-2009, 08:25 PM
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Eibach Drop settled in, need advice

front = 2 finger gap
rear = 1 finger gap!

Front is perfect, rear seems too low. Should I stagger the tires (less diameter) to balance or is there a better way of lifting the rear an inch?

Or does it look fine?


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looks weird like that.. like u got 3 dead bodies dumped in ur trunk saggin it down in the back lol.. who installed them?
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yea that dont look right
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Which Eibach drop? just springs or springs and dampers or???

how long have they been on?

and what did u have before this? (just curious)
Old 07-21-2009, 02:47 AM
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eibach pro kit: 4041.140
no dampers

before that I had OEM springs and the tire gap was 4-fingers all around. looked even. the Eibachs have been on for three weeks.

my honda tech installed them. but he said they didn't seat well, he had to force them. anyone else have this trouble?

the trunk is empty.
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he shouldnt have had to force any thing.
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sounds like ur honda tech put them on backwards if he had to force them..
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....that looks waaaaay off....i have the same drop and it should look like this...
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thanks for all the help guys. new pix.

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REAR (is it suppose to be *that* compressed at a stand-still?):

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Originally Posted by ZEUS'O3TL
....that looks waaaaay off....i have the same drop... [snip]
thanks for the comparative shot. I took one to match your angle and mine looks better at that angle. but you can still see a larger gap up front.

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I measured the ride-height from the side lip and it's even ride-height all around. I thought the Eibach's lowered the front more... strange.

The fronts are definitely on the front. perhaps they take longer to settle than the rears?
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my looks just like that because my struts are blown in the back
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Originally Posted by RalphiieP
my looks just like that because my struts are blown in the back
my honda tech just told me I might need new struts to fix the rear spring compression.
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blown rear struts....

but i dont have 2 finger gap up front with my eibachs either...
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Originally Posted by RalphiieP
my looks just like that because my struts are blown in the back
let me kno when u get em ill put em in for u...
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
blown rear struts....

but i dont have 2 finger gap up front with my eibachs either...
Will the rear struts cause that crazy spring compression?

I wonder what's causing the 2-finger gap up front? When I look at the closeups I posted, it looks like the fronts are too stiff and the backs are too soft.

factory differences? defective fronts?

the ride is actually pretty smooth. and I'm going to be very upset if I buy new struts only to still sag in the back.
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yeah ur rear springs look waaaaaaaaaay to compressed....i looked at mine on my lunch and are no where near that compressed
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I can get the OEM struts pretty cheap, is the handling in an aftermarket strut really worth the money?
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Originally Posted by ndub
I can get the OEM struts pretty cheap, is the handling in an aftermarket strut really worth the money?
yes they are worth it becuz their made to handle the lower spring rate...the OEM ones will blow out eventually once again so you might as well spend the extra money now
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thanks. that's all I needed to hear.
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would it be wise to purchase "adjustable" shocks? I noticed at that price I'm approaching Coilover-status.
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You should be fine with some Koni's or Tokico blues.
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I have the same concern. I was thinking of putting back the original OEM bushings instead of the Eibach bushing that came with the kit. However and more importantly, are any of you hearing a slapping sound from the rear shocks when going over sharp crack, bumps on the road? Going over speed bumps sound fine, but dealing with small sharp crack (2 inches deep) on the road create a slapping sound. The suspension has been torqued twice and while sitting flat on the ground. My car has 28,000 miles and I think is a little early for shocks, plus while riding on the OEM spring I did not have an issue. Any thoughts? I really want to fix the car this coming weekend

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Looks normal. I've seen it on a lot of Accords.
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Originally Posted by cwcruzer
I have the same concern. I was thinking of putting back the original OEM bushings instead of the Eibach bushing that came with the kit. However and more importantly, are any of you hearing a slapping sound from the rear shocks when going over sharp crack, bumps on the road? Going over speed bumps sound fine, but dealing with small sharp crack (2 inches deep) on the road create a slapping sound. The suspension has been torqued twice and while sitting flat on the ground. My car has 28,000 miles and I think is a little early for shocks, plus while riding on the OEM spring I did not have an issue. Any thoughts? I really want to fix the car this coming weekend
I dont hear any slapping noises. Are your rears as compressed as in my photo?

sounds like Eibach's are inconsistent.
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Koni springs are the best way to go if you want to spend a little more money. (The koni yellow has 2 and the koni neuspeed sp3 has 5 or 7) They have different perches for the springs to sit on to adjust height. Once lowered you really should get rid of the OEM shocks, especially if you have more than 50k on them.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Koni springs are the best way to go if you want to spend a little more money. (The koni yellow has 2 and the koni neuspeed sp3 has 5 or 7) They have different perches for the springs to sit on to adjust height. Once lowered you really should get rid of the OEM shocks, especially if you have more than 50k on them.
says on koni website that the alternate perch (yellows) will drop the car 20mm.

dumb question, but say I get the koni yellows and keep my eibach prokit, I could--in theory--drop only the front 20mm to match the sagging back*?

(* If the back still sag after the Koni Yellows are put on.)
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seems like $150 per Koni Yellow (x4) is pretty standard. anyone know of any deals?
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Originally Posted by ndub
sounds like Eibach's are inconsistent.
EIbachs are in no way inconsistent.....it has to do with the installer/OEM shocks....not calling anyone out at all...but i have been on my Eibachs for a year now and even thru snow and havent had a problem at all...
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Originally Posted by ndub
says on koni website that the alternate perch (yellows) will drop the car 20mm.

dumb question, but say I get the koni yellows and keep my eibach prokit, I could--in theory--drop only the front 20mm to match the sagging back*?

(* If the back still sag after the Koni Yellows are put on.)
Yes you could do that. Contact our vendor Excelerate. He can give you a good deal on them, or the better SP3

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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Yes you could do that. Contact our vendor Excelerate. He can give you a good deal on them, or the better SP3
thanks fsttyms1.
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Called Eibach tech support and got some good info. The spring come with a clear sleeve intended to avoid contact between the coils. As we (Eibach and I) come to find out, mine were shipped with the sleeve starting at the 3rd coil. The sleeve is supposed to start at the second coil in order to be silent during compression. I slid the sleeve by hand starting at the second coil and Magic! the sound is now gone. Regarding the rear height, I was able to bring the rear end up a 1/4 inch to give it a more balance look by using the original stop and cutting it a 1/2 inch longer than the one provided in the kit.
I will post pictures soon.
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good to hear you stopped that sound!

I've seen the light and my new strategy is to lower the front instead of lift the back. even with the springs compressed, my back never rubs.
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Guys,
After installing the Eibach Pro Spring kit the tires toe and camber really looked off, not to mention the immediate loss of gas mileage and funny handling (dogging look/going a little sideways). Installed the Ingalls kit and had the car aligned afterwards. The car now feels and looks back to original, but lowered. See the after pics at my gallery.

https://acurazine.com/forums/members/cwcruzer-215437-albums-after-ingalls-toe-camber-kit-installation-3737/
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Why would you replace the springs but not the struts/shocks?
Struts/shocks go bad all 4 of mine were blown..
why pay to do the job twice?
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all drop springs i have seen lowers the rear more than the front to create a perfectly balanced vehicle 50/50 distribution or as close to it as possible. That looks is actually the way to make the vehicle handle best.
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This is why I go with full coilovers, if I dnt like the ride height I can change it
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Originally Posted by UNDEFINEDTL
all drop springs i have seen lowers the rear more than the front to create a perfectly balanced vehicle 50/50 distribution or as close to it as possible. That looks is actually the way to make the vehicle handle best.
Ride height has absolutely NOTHING to do with weight distribution..

The reason it looks tht way is because the rear fenderwells are not cut as high as the front


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