!!! Bigger rims !!!
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!!! Bigger rims !!!
whats good guys---i have a lil problem here--i always wanted a set of 18s-but i was worried about rubbing and shit like that ya know
right now i have 17-7 with a 40 offset--and 235/45/17 tires
( i have pics in my profile in the top album )
my rear fenders are rolled and the tabs are already cut out
i have KYB-GR2 skocks with TEIN springs--so its a 2.1 drop in the front and a 1.7 in the back
I WANT to get a set of 18s---and there 18-8 with a 40 offset and the tires are 225/40/18
MY QUESTION IS---> do you guys think that the 18s will fit good and do ya guys think there will rub at all ???
SORRY IF THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION---but i just dont understand the whole concept of offset and shit ya know
so help me out with yer input
THANKS GUYS---APPRECIATE THE HELP !!!!!
right now i have 17-7 with a 40 offset--and 235/45/17 tires
( i have pics in my profile in the top album )
my rear fenders are rolled and the tabs are already cut out
i have KYB-GR2 skocks with TEIN springs--so its a 2.1 drop in the front and a 1.7 in the back
I WANT to get a set of 18s---and there 18-8 with a 40 offset and the tires are 225/40/18
MY QUESTION IS---> do you guys think that the 18s will fit good and do ya guys think there will rub at all ???
SORRY IF THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION---but i just dont understand the whole concept of offset and shit ya know
so help me out with yer input
THANKS GUYS---APPRECIATE THE HELP !!!!!
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yea but are those people that run 19x8 lowered ??
and how wide are their tires
when im lookin at my car with the 17s wit 45 series tires i can still see theres a gap--so then with the 18s with 40 series tires im guessing that will close up that gap
( if ya dont mind lookin at the pics of my car in my albums ) and let me know what ya think
again thanks guys--much appreciated
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yea i actually sold them to my boy with a 09 honda accord---his car is a 4 door and its a grey charcole color----they look ALOT better on his car---i just didnt like how they looked on my car
sooo fuck it---im gonna get a set of 18s now---and the ones im getting are more silver----i use to have the 06 tl rims on my car b4 i got those----i think im just use to seeing my car with silver rims ya know
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yea but are those people that run 19x8 lowered ??
and how wide are their tires
when im lookin at my car with the 17s wit 45 series tires i can still see theres a gap--so then with the 18s with 40 series tires im guessing that will close up that gap
( if ya dont mind lookin at the pics of my car in my albums ) and let me know what ya think
again thanks guys--much appreciated
and how wide are their tires
when im lookin at my car with the 17s wit 45 series tires i can still see theres a gap--so then with the 18s with 40 series tires im guessing that will close up that gap
( if ya dont mind lookin at the pics of my car in my albums ) and let me know what ya think
again thanks guys--much appreciated
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i dont inderstand !!!!
with 17s and 235 45 17 tires theres still a gap
im getting 18s with 225 40 18
soooo yer saying that i will still have a gap between the tire and fender
if im goin 1 inch bigger with the rim and from a 45 to a 40 series---shouldnt that close up the gap ??
thats what i mean--i dont understand
will you please explain this to me
sorry if this sounds dumb to you guys--appreciate the help
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Stock 205/60/16 overall dia is 25.7
Your 235/45/17 overall dia is 25.4
The 225/40/18 overall dia is 25.1 (which would actually make it smaller with a larger wheel gap)
The first # in A tire is the section width, the 2nd number is the aspect ratio, the 3rd is tire/rim size. Just because you go from a 16 to a 18" rim doesnt mean that the tire overall is going to become 2" larger (well it can, but the goal is to keep the tires overall dia relative to the stock dia)
Section Width
Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.
P225/50R16 91S
The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).
225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"
Sidewall Aspect Ratio
Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.
P225/50R16 91S
The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46
http://www.tirerack.com/about/techcenter.jsp
Your 235/45/17 overall dia is 25.4
The 225/40/18 overall dia is 25.1 (which would actually make it smaller with a larger wheel gap)
The first # in A tire is the section width, the 2nd number is the aspect ratio, the 3rd is tire/rim size. Just because you go from a 16 to a 18" rim doesnt mean that the tire overall is going to become 2" larger (well it can, but the goal is to keep the tires overall dia relative to the stock dia)
Section Width
Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.
P225/50R16 91S
The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).
225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"
Sidewall Aspect Ratio
Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.
P225/50R16 91S
The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46
http://www.tirerack.com/about/techcenter.jsp
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well thanks man---i really appreciate that alot
i just didnt understant the whole concept till now !!
soooo how can i close up that wheel gap then
( from the top of the tire to the fender ) ????
much appreciated alot !!!
i just didnt understant the whole concept till now !!
soooo how can i close up that wheel gap then
( from the top of the tire to the fender ) ????
much appreciated alot !!!
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Lower the car more.
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thanks for the help guys !!!!!
i just ordered my new rims 5 mins ago
18x8 with a 38 offset with 235/40/18
7-10 days and i'll be waiting at the door like a lil kid in a candy store
i just ordered my new rims 5 mins ago
18x8 with a 38 offset with 235/40/18
7-10 days and i'll be waiting at the door like a lil kid in a candy store
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Those probably arent going to fit, Especially with that size tire.
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What's wrong with the tire size?
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yea i fell ya man---im gonna call them today as soon as they open and go back down to a 225-40-18
i totally forgot that the wider the tire is the taller the sidewall is
i honestley was just excited when the guy asked if i wanted 235s for an extra $20
thanks guys--appreciate it alot
i totally forgot that the wider the tire is the taller the sidewall is
i honestley was just excited when the guy asked if i wanted 235s for an extra $20
thanks guys--appreciate it alot
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Ah NO! Thats not the way it really goes. Go up a few posts and read how the tire works. The Wider tire you run, the lower the aspect ratio you need to run to keep the overall tire dia the same. Doing it correctly a 275 tire will have the same side wall height as a 225.
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yea i fell ya man---im gonna call them today as soon as they open and go back down to a 225-40-18
i totally forgot that the wider the tire is the taller the sidewall is
i honestley was just excited when the guy asked if i wanted 235s for an extra $20
thanks guys--appreciate it alot
i totally forgot that the wider the tire is the taller the sidewall is
i honestley was just excited when the guy asked if i wanted 235s for an extra $20
thanks guys--appreciate it alot
The reason i said it MAY not fit is because of your +38 offset with the tire WIDTH. It had nothing to do with the sidewall aspect.
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No. The wider the tire does NOT mean the sidewall is taller. Sure the sidewall can be taller but the whole point of tires is to keep the overall dia the same so that your speedo and abs/tcs continue to function properly and not be off.
The reason i said it MAY not fit is because of your +38 offset with the tire WIDTH. It had nothing to do with the sidewall aspect.
The reason i said it MAY not fit is because of your +38 offset with the tire WIDTH. It had nothing to do with the sidewall aspect.
so HONESTLEY guys---if i get a 225/40/18 with a +38 offset they will definetley fit right ?????
sorry for these dumb questions--you guys seem to understand it ALOT better than me though
!!! THANKS !!!
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According to some you can get away with the +38 but you will have to cut the tabs (search the diy thread) and probably have to roll fenders.
I tries a +38 on my car and they stuck out of the wheel well and no amount of fender rolling would have got them to fit.
This is mine with a 18x8+50 with a 235/40 on it. If i were to move it out 13mm, or just over 1/2 inch it would be sticking out (which the one i tried did by about 1/4+ inch)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0169-1.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0166.jpg)
I tries a +38 on my car and they stuck out of the wheel well and no amount of fender rolling would have got them to fit.
This is mine with a 18x8+50 with a 235/40 on it. If i were to move it out 13mm, or just over 1/2 inch it would be sticking out (which the one i tried did by about 1/4+ inch)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0169-1.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0166.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0168.jpg)
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I will be attempting to get 255s on it in a short period of time though. I will be rolling and stretching to make them fit. Rears shouldnt be a problem with rolled fenders, fronts may take a little more work.
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According to some you can get away with the +38 but you will have to cut the tabs (search the diy thread) and probably have to roll fenders.
I tries a +38 on my car and they stuck out of the wheel well and no amount of fender rolling would have got them to fit.
This is mine with a 18x8+50 with a 235/40 on it. If i were to move it out 13mm, or just over 1/2 inch it would be sticking out (which the one i tried did by about 1/4+ inch)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0169-1.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0166.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0168.jpg)
I tries a +38 on my car and they stuck out of the wheel well and no amount of fender rolling would have got them to fit.
This is mine with a 18x8+50 with a 235/40 on it. If i were to move it out 13mm, or just over 1/2 inch it would be sticking out (which the one i tried did by about 1/4+ inch)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0169-1.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0166.jpg)
![](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii206/fsttyms1/Acura/IMG_0168.jpg)
well i already got my rear tabs cut out and rolled in the rear too
soooo basically what yer saying is that with a +38 offset the rim is gonna stick out pass the fenders a lil bit right ????
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My setup is
19x8 +38 Front
19x9 +38 Rear
If my car is at 2 finger gap the wheels stick out in the rear, with a 1 finger gap the wheel sits flush with the fender. Granted I had fenders rolled and with a slight pull.
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Yes and No. It really depends on the height of your car. Search through the pictures threads for a better understanding. The lower you go the more camber it will cause, so the top of the wheel tuck/fit under the fender while the bottom of wheel will stick out.
My setup is
19x8 +38 Front
19x9 +38 Rear
If my car is at 2 finger gap the wheels stick out in the rear, with a 1 finger gap the wheel sits flush with the fender. Granted I had fenders rolled and with a slight pull.
My setup is
19x8 +38 Front
19x9 +38 Rear
If my car is at 2 finger gap the wheels stick out in the rear, with a 1 finger gap the wheel sits flush with the fender. Granted I had fenders rolled and with a slight pull.
I still get the occasional rubbing of the tire with my setup.
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http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Stock offset is +55
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As taken from the link posted by me earlier in this thread
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Stock offset is +55
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Stock offset is +55
ok sorry----thanks man