dan lazer

whats good guys---i have a lil problem here--i always wanted a set of 18s-but i was worried about rubbing and shit like that ya know

right now i have 17-7 with a 40 offset--and 235/45/17 tires
( i have pics in my profile in the top album )

my rear fenders are rolled and the tabs are already cut out

i have KYB-GR2 skocks with TEIN springs--so its a 2.1 drop in the front and a 1.7 in the back

I WANT to get a set of 18s---and there 18-8 with a 40 offset and the tires are 225/40/18

MY QUESTION IS---> do you guys think that the 18s will fit good and do ya guys think there will rub at all ???

SORRY IF THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION---but i just dont understand the whole concept of offset and shit ya know

so help me out with yer input

THANKS GUYS---APPRECIATE THE HELP !!!!!

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

you should be fine.

Rockstar21

iTrader: (1)

people run 19x8 with no rubbing...

18x8 et40 will be fine

dan lazer

yea but are those people that run 19x8 lowered ??
and how wide are their tires

when im lookin at my car with the 17s wit 45 series tires i can still see theres a gap--so then with the 18s with 40 series tires im guessing that will close up that gap
( if ya dont mind lookin at the pics of my car in my albums ) and let me know what ya think

again thanks guys--much appreciated

03tlCHARCOL

iTrader: (3)

Like everyone else said you should be fine. I run 19x9 +38 in the rears 225/35 tires. Fender rolled/tab cut.

dan lazer

ok cool----thanks guys !!!

i just didnt wanna buy em and have them rubbing like a bitch ya know--but thanks again

Rockstar21

iTrader: (1)

of course thats lowered.

running 19's at stock height would be

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

i was semi-slammed.

kidduce

iTrader: (1)

These guys know what theyre talking bout. You should be ok man especially if you already rolled and cut.

dan lazer

ok----what about the front ??

again sorry if these are dumb questions---just wanna make sure ya know

thats what this site is for

skilzz

you will be good

saw your 17s on craigslist

dan lazer

yea i actually sold them to my boy with a 09 honda accord---his car is a 4 door and its a grey charcole color----they look ALOT better on his car---i just didnt like how they looked on my car

sooo fuck it---im gonna get a set of 18s now---and the ones im getting are more silver----i use to have the 06 tl rims on my car b4 i got those----i think im just use to seeing my car with silver rims ya know

fsttyms1

you do know that the overall dia of the tire isnt going to change nor is the wheel gap.

dan lazer

i dont inderstand !!!!

with 17s and 235 45 17 tires theres still a gap
im getting 18s with 225 40 18

soooo yer saying that i will still have a gap between the tire and fender

if im goin 1 inch bigger with the rim and from a 45 to a 40 series---shouldnt that close up the gap ??

thats what i mean--i dont understand

will you please explain this to me

sorry if this sounds dumb to you guys--appreciate the help

fsttyms1

Stock 205/60/16 overall dia is 25.7

Your 235/45/17 overall dia is 25.4

The 225/40/18 overall dia is 25.1 (which would actually make it smaller with a larger wheel gap)

The first # in A tire is the section width, the 2nd number is the aspect ratio, the 3rd is tire/rim size. Just because you go from a 16 to a 18" rim doesnt mean that the tire overall is going to become 2" larger (well it can, but the goal is to keep the tires overall dia relative to the stock dia)

Section Width

Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.

P225/50R16 91S

The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).

225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46

http://www.tirerack.com/about/techcenter.jsp

dan lazer

well thanks man---i really appreciate that alot

i just didnt understant the whole concept till now !!

soooo how can i close up that wheel gap then
( from the top of the tire to the fender ) ????

much appreciated alot !!!

fsttyms1

Lower the car more.

03tLsNBP

iTrader: (9)

sand bags in trunk and engine bay

dan lazer

thanks for the help guys !!!!!

i just ordered my new rims 5 mins ago

18x8 with a 38 offset with 235/40/18

7-10 days and i'll be waiting at the door like a lil kid in a candy store

fsttyms1

Those probably arent going to fit, Especially with that size tire.

Aman

What's wrong with the tire size?

dan lazer

why wont they fit with that size tire---whats wrong with it ???? EVERYONE in this trend thinks they will fit

skilzz

i dont see the need for 235s. the wider the tire the taller the sidewall(even tho its still 40 series)

dan lazer

yea i fell ya man---im gonna call them today as soon as they open and go back down to a 225-40-18

i totally forgot that the wider the tire is the taller the sidewall is

i honestley was just excited when the guy asked if i wanted 235s for an extra $20

thanks guys--appreciate it alot

V_Langs_3.2TL

good luck bro but yeah if yo want to reduce wheel gap, you have to lower your ride more.

there's no way around that =/

fsttyms1

he is running a + 38 offset

fsttyms1

Ah NO! Thats not the way it really goes. Go up a few posts and read how the tire works. The Wider tire you run, the lower the aspect ratio you need to run to keep the overall tire dia the same. Doing it correctly a 275 tire will have the same side wall height as a 225.

fsttyms1

No. The wider the tire does NOT mean the sidewall is taller. Sure the sidewall can be taller but the whole point of tires is to keep the overall dia the same so that your speedo and abs/tcs continue to function properly and not be off.

The reason i said it MAY not fit is because of your +38 offset with the tire WIDTH. It had nothing to do with the sidewall aspect.

dan lazer

so HONESTLEY guys---if i get a 225/40/18 with a +38 offset they will definetley fit right ?????

sorry for these dumb questions--you guys seem to understand it ALOT better than me though

!!! THANKS !!!

dan lazer

what offset wud you guys suggest i NEED or should run for a set of 18s with 225/40/18 ???

THANKS

fsttyms1

According to some you can get away with the +38 but you will have to cut the tabs (search the diy thread) and probably have to roll fenders.

I tries a +38 on my car and they stuck out of the wheel well and no amount of fender rolling would have got them to fit.

This is mine with a 18x8+50 with a 235/40 on it. If i were to move it out 13mm, or just over 1/2 inch it would be sticking out (which the one i tried did by about 1/4+ inch)

fsttyms1

I will be attempting to get 255s on it in a short period of time though. I will be rolling and stretching to make them fit. Rears shouldnt be a problem with rolled fenders, fronts may take a little more work.

Rockstar21

iTrader: (1)

he may need to run a bit of camber but he can get them to fit without serious issues.

dan lazer

well i already got my rear tabs cut out and rolled in the rear too

soooo basically what yer saying is that with a +38 offset the rim is gonna stick out pass the fenders a lil bit right ????

03tlCHARCOL

iTrader: (3)

Yes and No. It really depends on the height of your car. Search through the pictures threads for a better understanding. The lower you go the more camber it will cause, so the top of the wheel tuck/fit under the fender while the bottom of wheel will stick out.

My setup is
19x8 +38 Front
19x9 +38 Rear

If my car is at 2 finger gap the wheels stick out in the rear, with a 1 finger gap the wheel sits flush with the fender. Granted I had fenders rolled and with a slight pull.

dan lazer

^^ wow ok cool ---thanks man

appreciate it !!!!!

fsttyms1

I would have needed more than a slight pull to get the +38 to clear the front. Even with a 0 finger gap it wouldnt have cleared the fender (we tried) Like i have said before there has to be a fender difference between the 99-01 and the 02-03. To get the +38 to have fit on my car would have required a lot of work (and probably repainting of the fender)
I still get the occasional rubbing of the tire with my setup.

dan lazer

now with offset ???

what does it mean when its +38 ---and why is a higher offset better

fsttyms1

As taken from the link posted by me earlier in this thread

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

Stock offset is +55

dan lazer

ok sorry----thanks man