Type s swap
What's up ladies and gents , I'm kind of sort of new to this Forum and was wondering if you guys can help me out. With that being said I want to know exactly what I need to swap in a 2nd gen tl-s engine and trans into my base model . I'm sure plenty of ppl have asked this before just can't find the answers .. thanks
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You'll need the engine, ECU, multiple harnesses & time.
For the money it'll cost, buy a Type S |
That's true .. I was looking into it because in my area there alot of crashed type s's for a little over 1k
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If you need a shop to do it, it will be too expensive to be worth it.
If you have the time and interest, you can do it for the cost of buying a wrecked Type S. It's not bad at all, I did it with little to no experience. You just need to be motivated (and have tools). |
Technically you dont need anything special to get the motor to run. It is a direct bolt in, and will run with your stock ecu. To take full advantage of the Type-s motor though you will need to change/add/repin some of the harnesses and get the type-s ecu
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We swapped a Type S engine in our Base 02 TL last year. The only thing extra i needed was a RPM switch to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You don't need the Harness or the Ecu really. But if you plan on running the Type S ECU then you will need the harness.I noticed the harness had plugs for the 2nd Throttle body that the Type S uses for VSA and to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You can throw the 2nd TB out and use a Rpm switch for the butterfly's like i did and your set.
Otherwise the base engine ECU will run the Type S engine just fine. Our TL has been running like this for over a year with no issues. The power difference of the Type S cams is noticeable even on the Base ECU. It just doesn't rev higher than the Base ECU which really isn't that big of a deal knowing the engine can rev higher. And oddly it gets better MPG's like that than my 03 Type-S( I have the base with the type S engine and a real 03 Type S) If you need anymore details Feel free to Pm me. |
Originally Posted by 04mojogt
(Post 15779568)
We swapped a Type S engine in our Base 02 TL last year. The only thing extra i needed was a RPM switch to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You don't need the Harness or the Ecu really. But if you plan on running the Type S ECU then you will need the harness.I noticed the harness had plugs for the 2nd Throttle body that the Type S uses for VSA and to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You can throw the 2nd TB out and use a Rpm switch for the butterfly's like i did and your set.
Otherwise the base engine ECU will run the Type S engine just fine. Our TL has been running like this for over a year with no issues. The power difference of the Type S cams is noticeable even on the Base ECU. It just doesn't rev higher than the Base ECU which really isn't that big of a deal knowing the engine can rev higher. And oddly it gets better MPG's like that than my 03 Type-S( I have the base with the type S engine and a real 03 Type S) If you need anymore details Feel free to Pm me. |
Also without the TCS throttle body, doesn't the ECU throw codes and go to limp home due to a lack of the throttle body?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
(Post 15782242)
How did you get the RPM switch to work properly? Activating it is easy, but The 2nd stage TB needs the polarity to be reversed to deactivate once activated.
Originally Posted by prove_it
(Post 15782453)
Also without the TCS throttle body, doesn't the ECU throw codes and go to limp home due to a lack of the throttle body?
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2002 acura tl type s
I am curious to know if I buy a JDM Acura TL Type S engine from Japan and throw it into my Type S here will it work just dropping in or do I need to modify anything???
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Originally Posted by 04mojogt
(Post 15779568)
We swapped a Type S engine in our Base 02 TL last year. The only thing extra i needed was a RPM switch to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You don't need the Harness or the Ecu really. But if you plan on running the Type S ECU then you will need the harness.I noticed the harness had plugs for the 2nd Throttle body that the Type S uses for VSA and to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You can throw the 2nd TB out and use a Rpm switch for the butterfly's like i did and your set.
Otherwise the base engine ECU will run the Type S engine just fine. Our TL has been running like this for over a year with no issues. The power difference of the Type S cams is noticeable even on the Base ECU. It just doesn't rev higher than the Base ECU which really isn't that big of a deal knowing the engine can rev higher. And oddly it gets better MPG's like that than my 03 Type-S( I have the base with the type S engine and a real 03 Type S) If you need anymore details Feel free to Pm me. |
Originally Posted by JayCoLeo
(Post 16083682)
Is this possible with the 99 TL being that it has the 4-Spd Auto and not the 5?
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Originally Posted by 04mojogt
(Post 15779568)
We swapped a Type S engine in our Base 02 TL last year. The only thing extra i needed was a RPM switch to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You don't need the Harness or the Ecu really. But if you plan on running the Type S ECU then you will need the harness.I noticed the harness had plugs for the 2nd Throttle body that the Type S uses for VSA and to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You can throw the 2nd TB out and use a Rpm switch for the butterfly's like i did and your set.
Otherwise the base engine ECU will run the Type S engine just fine. Our TL has been running like this for over a year with no issues. The power difference of the Type S cams is noticeable even on the Base ECU. It just doesn't rev higher than the Base ECU which really isn't that big of a deal knowing the engine can rev higher. And oddly it gets better MPG's like that than my 03 Type-S( I have the base with the type S engine and a real 03 Type S) If you need anymore details Feel free to Pm me. |
Originally Posted by C.Austin88
(Post 16380386)
I apologize for digging up an old post but I was told if I were to run the cls ecu in my base model I would need to reprogram my key to that ecu can you confirm this or clarify for me.
I have a Type S Harness if you need one. |
Originally Posted by 04mojogt
(Post 16380614)
Yes that would be right. If you somehow could get a hold of the keys to the Doner car i think that would eliminate that i think not sure. Our TL is still kicking with the Type S engine on the Base Ecu with no issues to date.
I have a Type S Harness if you need one. |
Originally Posted by C.Austin88
(Post 16380795)
10-4...I have a couple Cl-s models in a junkyard where i am so grabbing the harness will be no issue however the keys might be a challenge. Now as far as the harness goes will I be looking into grabbing the harness from behind the dash/firewall as well as engine harness?
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Can I just take the heads have em port an polished for an extra couple hp??
Originally Posted by 04mojogt
(Post 15779568)
We swapped a Type S engine in our Base 02 TL last year. The only thing extra i needed was a RPM switch to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You don't need the Harness or the Ecu really. But if you plan on running the Type S ECU then you will need the harness.I noticed the harness had plugs for the 2nd Throttle body that the Type S uses for VSA and to control the butterfly's in the manifold. You can throw the 2nd TB out and use a Rpm switch for the butterfly's like i did and your set.
Otherwise the base engine ECU will run the Type S engine just fine. Our TL has been running like this for over a year with no issues. The power difference of the Type S cams is noticeable even on the Base ECU. It just doesn't rev higher than the Base ECU which really isn't that big of a deal knowing the engine can rev higher. And oddly it gets better MPG's like that than my 03 Type-S( I have the base with the type S engine and a real 03 Type S) If you need anymore details Feel free to Pm me. |
Sure
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I have 02 Base CL coupe, I had the whole auto transmission issues and all. Even though I swapped a 06 TL auto trans into it currently, a dear friend helped me acquire a Type-S motor and 6 speed manual trans. I know of the whole clutch assembly to add and the braided line that will control the slave cylinder. Can't also forget the shifter assembly and routing the trans cables to the tranny. Otherwise I believe that the installation process was very easy since I took out the swap from a previous auto accord coupe.
I do have the Type-S engine harness and Type-S ECU, but what will be connection for the clutch safety switch? Also In question about the VIn being encoded into the ecu, like when I go in for a auto inspection and the computer is reading a different vin on the ecu from the chassis of the car ? I'm still doing the swap, But if these questions can be answered the I will be installing this swap much faster than my K swap project. and beside the CL 01-03 CL coupes are still sexy till this day. Younger Acura owners are still loving the boldness of this coupe since it stands out like the current euro competitive coupes. |
Originally Posted by Ahmed Nomaw
(Post 16555912)
I do have the Type-S engine harness and Type-S ECU, but what will be connection for the clutch safety switch?
Originally Posted by Ahmed Nomaw
(Post 16555912)
Also In question about the VIn being encoded into the ecu, like when I go in for a auto inspection and the computer is reading a different vin on the ecu from the chassis of the car ?
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Ok , I will get the type s dash harness to simplify the process. thank you for being soo supportive
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