Turbo TL Stage 2
09-27-2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Aegean 03
That pull was 4th gear, 26psi on 116 octane. I have yet to crack open the motor, it's bone stock and I mean down to the original 1993.5 headgasket 
Yes, that was with the 67dbb w/ a .68 A/R hot side (even quicker spool)
As for traction, even though you're not going to be running alot of boost, I can guarantee that 8-10psi would be enough to cause some violent wheel hop. What type of suspension setup are you going to go with?
Yes, that was with the 67dbb w/ a .68 A/R hot side (even quicker spool)As for traction, even though you're not going to be running alot of boost, I can guarantee that 8-10psi would be enough to cause some violent wheel hop. What type of suspension setup are you going to go with?
No, clue. Currently only have apexi coilovers. Haven't decided what coilovers Im changed too, sways, etc yet....got a few months to decide still. I might try a dual damper setup for motor but I don't know yet. I might not even look into that stuff until I break in the motor, which will probably take a couple months especially since I never drove the car prior to this either. lol
09-27-2006, 03:51 PM
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Wow, logan...I feel honored...for your first post you posted on my thread! 
Glad to see you on the forums.
Glad to see you on the forums.
I forgot to ask you, Have you come up with a solution for the stock head gasket? I am not completely aware of approximately how much pressure it can take before failure. Any leads?
09-27-2006, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LOGONZOJLS
I've been lurking around quite a bit, This was definetly worth posting about though!
I forgot to ask you, Have you come up with a solution for the stock head gasket? I am not completely aware of approximately how much pressure it can take before failure. Any leads?
I forgot to ask you, Have you come up with a solution for the stock head gasket? I am not completely aware of approximately how much pressure it can take before failure. Any leads?
09-27-2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
I actually talked to Jim about that at the shop when I was there on yesterday. We are supposed to discuss it again when I go back to the shop in a couple weeks or so.
09-27-2006, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Aegean 03
I may have missed it, but what compression are the pistons that you're using? I'm hoping you lowered it a bit by going forced induction. In regards to the head gaskets, at 8-10psi, I'd imagine you'd be fine if you use ARP head studs.
Forgot to mention, got custom head studs by arp. I'm running more then 8-10psi. 8-10psi will be for daily driving. I might go as high as 20psi, who knows. I could run 8-10psi on the stock block. Stock compression is 9.8:1 compression, my new setup will be 9.0:1.
09-27-2006, 07:27 PM
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Nice, Yea I talked to cometic about the J-series engines to see if they had anything available. They told me they had nothing for any of the engines, but if I could gather about 50-70 people to buy 1 set each at $150.00-$170.00 They could start producing. Seeing how that will probably not be possible, I am curious to see what Jim is going to pursue. hopefully he can find something, you'll have everything else bulletproof, Hate to see the headgasket the weak-link at high boost.
09-28-2006, 12:24 PM
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Simply amazing, your a 2nd Gen TL king to all of us. I must see this thing when its done. What shop are you having this done at? I MAY get a supercharger this summer, if I can find a 98-02 V6 accord one.
09-28-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PiZauL
Simply amazing, your a 2nd Gen TL king to all of us. I must see this thing when its done. What shop are you having this done at? I MAY get a supercharger this summer, if I can find a 98-02 V6 accord one.
Justice Racing Engines in Frederick Maryland is building the motor and Tempest Racing in Waldorf is redoing the turbo setup again for me.
09-28-2006, 06:57 PM
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GOOD LUCK with your Turbo Project Bro. Cant wait to c the final Scene. Once you done, i would definately need help from you in putting a turbo in my car because thats comming soon in my project too 
09-28-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lostkhan
GOOD LUCK with your Turbo Project Bro. Cant wait to c the final Scene. Once you done, i would definately need help from you in putting a turbo in my car because thats comming soon in my project too
the turbo project is almost a year old now(damn, time goes quickly). Just basically redoing everything.
09-30-2006, 01:40 PM
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Have you addressed what your going to do for a clutch? I dont think the stock clutch will come close to being able to handle half the power your talking about.
09-30-2006, 01:40 PM
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Wheel hop is also going to have to be addressed. I have it bad with mine if not launched right. (time for suspension mods i guess)
09-30-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Have you addressed what your going to do for a clutch? I dont think the stock clutch will come close to being able to handle half the power your talking about.
waiting on Competetion clutches to have their setup. That's why I'm not rush. Don't want to have to do two different installs. I got an email from them at the beginning of the month regarding it. Hopefully their cluch and PP will be out in the next month or so.
09-30-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Wheel hop is also going to have to be addressed. I have it bad with mine if not launched right. (time for suspension mods i guess)
yeah one day... lol once the motor/trans is in the car, I will look at it.
10-01-2006, 10:02 AM
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Everytime I talk to you or read your threads im just amazed...there is so much time, planning and MONEY! going into this project. My research is moving a lot slower than yours but I obviously I dont have the same funds as you.lol. Can't wait to see more pics for inspiration
10-01-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Meek32v6
Everytime I talk to you or read your threads im just amazed...there is so much time, planning and MONEY! going into this project. My research is moving a lot slower than yours but I obviously I dont have the same funds as you.lol. Can't wait to see more pics for inspiration
I think its much time, "stupidity" and money. lol
10-09-2006, 09:09 PM
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Nice to see someone serious on here, you only live once and you'll enjoy the speed. Hang loose on the clutch/PP, it's coming eventually.
Your head gasket is what it is. It's actually a 3 layered gasket that is pretty stout for a stock gasket. I'd speculate that it should hold upwards to 25ish pounds of boost. At that level though, it would have to be checked quite often if not changed. Doubt we'll ever see that as this motor is able to make a lot of power at lower boost. Head studs are a must though, and it seems you have them, so do I and serge has them as well, from arp. Just remember, at the level your going to be at, a lot of maint' is required.
Looks good, keep us all posted.
The supra vid was nasty. Those motors are just the best platform to boost right from the factory. It does sound a lot different from the v6 honda. He had mentioned what the v6 might sound like under boost. Here is a sample of a 3.2 at 10psi. Thanks goes to mclarenf3387 for keeping these posted.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
Your head gasket is what it is. It's actually a 3 layered gasket that is pretty stout for a stock gasket. I'd speculate that it should hold upwards to 25ish pounds of boost. At that level though, it would have to be checked quite often if not changed. Doubt we'll ever see that as this motor is able to make a lot of power at lower boost. Head studs are a must though, and it seems you have them, so do I and serge has them as well, from arp. Just remember, at the level your going to be at, a lot of maint' is required.
Looks good, keep us all posted.
The supra vid was nasty. Those motors are just the best platform to boost right from the factory. It does sound a lot different from the v6 honda. He had mentioned what the v6 might sound like under boost. Here is a sample of a 3.2 at 10psi. Thanks goes to mclarenf3387 for keeping these posted.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
10-09-2006, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
Nice to see someone serious on here, you only live once and you'll enjoy the speed. Hang loose on the clutch/PP, it's coming eventually.
Your head gasket is what it is. It's actually a 3 layered gasket that is pretty stout for a stock gasket. I'd speculate that it should hold upwards to 25ish pounds of boost. At that level though, it would have to be checked quite often if not changed. Doubt we'll ever see that as this motor is able to make a lot of power at lower boost. Head studs are a must though, and it seems you have them, so do I and serge has them as well, from arp. Just remember, at the level your going to be at, a lot of maint' is required.
Looks good, keep us all posted.
The supra vid was nasty. Those motors are just the best platform to boost right from the factory. It does sound a lot different from the v6 honda. He had mentioned what the v6 might sound like under boost. Here is a sample of a 3.2 at 10psi. Thanks goes to mclarenf3387 for keeping these posted.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
Your head gasket is what it is. It's actually a 3 layered gasket that is pretty stout for a stock gasket. I'd speculate that it should hold upwards to 25ish pounds of boost. At that level though, it would have to be checked quite often if not changed. Doubt we'll ever see that as this motor is able to make a lot of power at lower boost. Head studs are a must though, and it seems you have them, so do I and serge has them as well, from arp. Just remember, at the level your going to be at, a lot of maint' is required.
Looks good, keep us all posted.
The supra vid was nasty. Those motors are just the best platform to boost right from the factory. It does sound a lot different from the v6 honda. He had mentioned what the v6 might sound like under boost. Here is a sample of a 3.2 at 10psi. Thanks goes to mclarenf3387 for keeping these posted.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
yep, I'm waiting on the clutch/pp. No point of installing the stock clutch and then removing it when it can go in with the new motor. Patience is good.
10-20-2006, 07:56 AM
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hey Serge, not trying to hijack the topic but how is your Dr. Evil tranny holding up lately? what mileage are you up to?
hey blk2001tlon19s, have you considered going with a dual scroll design or would the expense and work not be worth the performance benefits?
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hey blk2001tlon19s, have you considered going with a dual scroll design or would the expense and work not be worth the performance benefits?
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10-20-2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverTypS
hey Serge, not trying to hijack the topic but how is your Dr. Evil tranny holding up lately? what mileage are you up to?
hey blk2001tlon19s, have you considered going with a dual scroll design or would the expense and work not be worth the performance benefits?
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hey blk2001tlon19s, have you considered going with a dual scroll design or would the expense and work not be worth the performance benefits?
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dual scroll design of what? Sorry, I'm not following. lol
10-24-2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
dual scroll design of what? Sorry, I'm not following. lol
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10-25-2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverTypS
well mazda had dual scroll turbos in the Rx7s much like acura is using in the RDX. it has two differently architectured exhaust intake paths to maximize high vs. low rpm spooling and eliminate lag. maybe dual scroll isn't the correct term but i was pretty sure it was.
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Oh, I think I understand what you are trying to explain. I had never known about it before. Maybe I'll go some research on the internet later to be understand it but yes, I have never looked into it at all.
10-25-2006, 11:42 AM
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The supra vid was nasty. Those motors are just the best platform to boost right from the factory. It does sound a lot different from the v6 honda. He had mentioned what the v6 might sound like under boost. Here is a sample of a 3.2 at 10psi. Thanks goes to mclarenf3387 for keeping these posted.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01680.mpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mclaren...s/Mov01681.mpg
10-25-2006, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverTypS
well mazda had dual scroll turbos in the Rx7s much like acura is using in the RDX. it has two differently architectured exhaust intake paths to maximize high vs. low rpm spooling and eliminate lag. maybe dual scroll isn't the correct term but i was pretty sure it was.
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10-25-2006, 04:17 PM
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hey Serge, not trying to hijack the topic but how is your Dr. Evil tranny holding up lately? what mileage are you up to?
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10-25-2006, 07:34 PM
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30K mi and running strong, that is include D3 <-> D4 shifts when needed on my 4AT plus LSD helps from the light or making turns
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(sorry for derailing the thread again, this is just a big concern for most of us and we haven't heard anything from the guys who got the dr. evils in the group buy)
10-27-2006, 12:04 AM
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1) Didn't see the purpose
2) Didn't see the purpose
3) Didn't see the purpose
All I see myself gaining is torque and I can make more power by running a higher boost level. Secondly, I got a good deal on the j32a2 crank/rods/block, etc from 02av6 the beginning of this year. It was an offer I couldn't pass up. Is that 3.5 swap the extra money opposed to me just using the parts I already had? To me, the answer is no. Also I try to do something different and Tom(thinjim) is already building a j35 motor and didn't want to follow in his footsteps.
2) Didn't see the purpose
3) Didn't see the purpose
All I see myself gaining is torque and I can make more power by running a higher boost level. Secondly, I got a good deal on the j32a2 crank/rods/block, etc from 02av6 the beginning of this year. It was an offer I couldn't pass up. Is that 3.5 swap the extra money opposed to me just using the parts I already had? To me, the answer is no. Also I try to do something different and Tom(thinjim) is already building a j35 motor and didn't want to follow in his footsteps.
11-23-2006, 01:17 AM
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I am totally surprised. Amazed. Baffled. This is so crazy. I never even thought people even do this to TL's. But thumbs up to you. Good luck with your Sh*t!!! Please give updates
03-01-2007, 01:02 AM
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man your car.... its ...its unheard of, its holy.
do you have any better pics or videos of your car online or anything i can entertain myself with for a month. amazing man!!!
do you have any better pics or videos of your car online or anything i can entertain myself with for a month. amazing man!!!
03-03-2007, 09:20 AM
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yeah I noticed he hasnt been on the forums...hope all is well
03-20-2007, 04:34 AM
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wow!! i finally met someone with nearly the same vision as i. to bad i dont browse the forums to much. probily would have been able those get crower rods for cheaper, along with je pistons, etc. loooong list. will be keeping track and will make the same attempt during the summer. Best of luck to you. Best of luck to your wallet.
DAMN.