jfordin

i would like to transform my automatic TL
in a MAnual TL

i know its possible but how and whats the cost?

justnspace

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how and whats the cost is all up to you.

get some quotes from shops.
unless you're doing this yourself.
junk yards have all the parts you need and the prices are dependent on your area and your willingness to haggle for parts.

there is a lot of info on this site, take the time to read and absorb.
I guarantee you'll have a better understanding if you read through some of the past swaps done on here.
-Justin

jfordin

can you guide me where because the search engine is not helping me

Flipster23

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go to 2nd gen TL DIY thread look at 6 speed swap there are at least 3 or more different threads..

Its all over the place

Flipster23

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https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/6-speed-conversion-591872/

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/new-official-2nd-gen-tl-diy-thread-706083/ (everything u need 2 kno)

justnspace

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flipster beating me to it.

justnspace

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https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/engine-6-speed-swap-your-opinion-please-802715/

heres another.

I'm not even searching, i'm going to the 2nd gen TL section and looking at the performance section.

BELIEVE ME, theres enough info on this website for you to be reading for weeks.

assclown

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nope

jfordin

thanks guys

justnspace

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^ you have to put spaces and or periods in your links because Acurazine doesnt allow linking to other forums.

for example...
Acura World (dot) com

03tLsNBP

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^ off topic but ive always wondered...why is that?

DaveS221

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no free advertisement?

03tLsNBP

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true.

back on topic though, OP needs to search.

01tl4tl

look at the main gen2 thread list -4th line item down
not a diy but a part and cost list and info
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591872

thread prepared by our Master Mod fsttyms1 who is running a CL-S engine and 6 speed in a 00 with over 350kmiles on the car!!!

01tl4tl

no links allowed? humm maybe I use ones that are vendors here or otherwise approved,,never been a problem before,,,rules change?

fsttyms1

No. Many were/are competing forums, and there has been a spat between some of the owners in the past.

fsttyms1

Learn to use it better. Select what area you want to search in IE 2gtl, use "quotation marks" to search better, There are many tricks. The search engine works just fine.

assclown

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hey kris...

friesm2000

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LMFAO, but so true though


as far as OP, you are looking at $3500 plus for the manual swap, mine was in the $4500 range (with a discount on parts too), but i did get the clutchmasters stage 3 clutch though (which in all reality is not that much more then stock, because you would have to buy the stock clutch and flywheel anyways)

jfordin

thanks guys i think im gonna get the auto rebuilt for 1400...cant afford the 4000 but thats a nice mod damn

friesm2000

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including labor to remove and reinstall the transmission? (and all the parts necessary...)


and as far as a nice mod i gained like 40 hp just to the wheels, because the auto was not soaking it up anymore

jfordin

yes the price is 1350$ plus taxes(canadian tax15%)
includes all labor/parts and 1year/unlimited warranty
they only do engine /transmission work japanese cars
the guy says he did alot of tl ,accord, and odissey.
i didnt find any reviews of the place ....http://www.royaljapanesemotors.com/
what do you think guys?? should i go on with this place??

jfordin

they also told me they would install the front engine mount for free just bring them the part when i come in for the rebuilt

jfordin

its almost too goood to be true

friesm2000

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i also forgot to add to swapping to a manual, i did all the labor myself, so you are looking at easily 10+ plus hours to do it, so at least an additional $1000+ for in the $5500 range

a rebuilt transmission from Acura is like $3,000 list (plus labor to remove and reinstall it, be it the dealer or independent shop), so personally i don't think that place is adding in any parts, and that it is the price to pull the transmission and just INSPECT it, nothing more

also i know here, with a rebuilt transmission from acura, you get a 3 year 36000 mile warranty on it (so can they possibly match that?), so kinda hard to beat that

btw: all my prices are in US $
it only like 2-3 minutes additional labor with hand tools, if the cradle is already out for the transmission (i would also get the rear and side one replace too, they will not be far hind [and the rear one is much easier with shit out of the way already)

jfordin

no its clearly a rebuilding of the tranny and they use JDM parts
the place looks ligit ...althought i dont know anyone who got work done in that shop
or that are knowledgeable about JDM ...its strange there is so many tranny rebuiders in my city(Montreal) the price range for a rebuilt is wide 1350-1500-1800-2000-2300-2500-2800-3000 these are all the price a got from diferent places

friesm2000

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alot of times you do get what you pay for though (and remember to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges; does EVERY qoute include a new or rebuilt torque convertor?, or how about at least new seals in each clutch pack [they should be pulling them apart to at least inspect them, and rubber seals like to harden up over time especially from heat, and then don't seal properly (think kinda like your wiper blades, and how they streak after a while, all the streaking would be fluid getting past the seals instead)

and alot of times, it would be better to go to a shop that is more upfront with all the costs, and tries to minimize all unexpected costs upfront (there are times that you cannot help it though)
and there are places that will bait and switch you, they give you a dirt cheap price to get you in the door, then once the car is disassembled, tell you that you need additional parts; which can easily put you into the price range of the more expensive shops, that where true from the start (remember there are some parts that are going to be pretty standard practice to replace, if it is opened up, like seals


and here is another good indication of a shop sometimes (not always though), is the shop itself clean and well lit (cleanliness is god especially when rebuilding transmissions, especially when you consider a speck of dirt could ruin a transmission if it gets in the wrong place; a valve mainly, and causing it to stick part way)


and JDM parts most of those where built here anyways, and the same part anyways (like almost all the JDM J-series V6's where built here in the USA in Anne, Ohio)

jfordin

ok thanks im gonna look into this ,
so ishould ask about -torque converter
i got a friend who says he can get a factory rebuilt tranny for 2000
or so i know i can trust him but im trying to save $$$

friesm2000

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thats normally wholesale price though (at least for here); and personally i was going to go that route if i had stayed automatic (still would have done it myself though)

and i am 99% percent sure that the factory rebuilt includes a new/rebuilt torque convertor too (it likes to collect all the rest of the crap from the transmission, and really the only way to clean it out, is to cut it open, and remove everything out of it to clean separate, put it all back together, and then reweld it shut)(and don't forget there is also a clutch in there, to lock up the torque convetor under cruise conditions for better gas mileage; and what happens if that is also worn , can't even inspect it without cutting open either)

basically only thing you have to add in to that price is the labor to remove and install the transmission now (plus fluid too)

friesm2000

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also as a side note, you should get your car back faster from whoever puts in the transmission for you, cause i know the dealer here actually carries a transmission in stock (kinda actually)
so really you could have your car back in 2 days, first day is pulling it out (and the dealer delivers it as it's being pulled, or if you make an appointment, they could even pre-deliver it to the shop), and transfer parts over (only a couple though, then the second is putting it back in, filling it, then test driving it)(and depending on what time you drop it off, and how long the shop is open, you could even potentually have it back the same day, but not likely though)

jfordin

fuck the dealers they are the worst places to get work done unless you are under warranty

jfordin

dealer charge 4000$ with 1year/20000km warranty
they just swap the tranny with a rebuilt

friesm2000

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the dealer is not required to put it in though, an independent shop is able to put it in, they just gotta order it through the dealer though (unless you supply it though)

jfordin

i called the shop he told me they change the torque converter and all the seals

01tl4tl

go for it- be prepared for additional cost- ask the guy about that - certain parts they might run into needing after inspection that are not in the estimate

Since he does many TL trans he can look up invoices or knows off the top of his head
what the real total is for a deluxe job,,not the band aid job

Do have him replace the `rear main seal on the engine`, remove flywheel and replace seal is 30 minutes labor and good safety precaution--
sucks to have it leak 6 months from now and you have to pay to remove the trans to access a 10 dollar part

just plan on an extra 500

the side motor mount labor is not affected by trans in or out, 30 minutes,
easiest with timing belt job~

the front mount is a few minutes install as said--get a real acura one from one of our sponsoring dealers- see Vendor list next to log out box

while the rear doesnt fail very often- fries makes as good point of access, spend 150 for the part now and drive without concern of future expense

01tl4tl

they have to replace the tq because its clogged with clutch pack material

jfordin

my other option is a friend who offer me a completly rebuild tranny
for 1900 no tax paid cash all labor included and 1 year warranty
he is not a tranny specialist thought...
my budget is f***** tight ...
i dont know if that japanese place is trustable

jfordin

is that a better choice ?