ESank

Anybody know if this has been done? Or is there a chance the tranny from a 3rd gen will bolt up to the 3.2? Just trying to brainstorm this whole tranny issue before mine blows up for the 3rd time. I have no desire to go 6 speed, looks like waayyyy to much work/money. I'm wondering about the motor mount locations and such. Any ideas?

TheMegalodon

Well I do believe some guys have swapped the 3.5L engine in, but I may be mixing up my thoughts. I think guys use parts from the odessey. The best swap that we can do is a 3.5L w/6spd

3.5L swap thread

ESank

Doesn't anyone else have an idea about this? Will the '04 tranny bolt up to the '01 engine since both are 3.2 litre? This seems like such an obvious answer to this plague we have with our trannies. And even better, drop the '04 engine and tranny into a 2nd generation TL and get an additional 45 horses and a tranny that won't fail in 10,000 miles and can actually handle the additional horsepower! I just can't understand why people are paying anywhere from $2-4000 to replace a tranny that is proven to be just as faulty as the one that was replaced! It reminds me of the saying, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." I found (with very little effort) an engine and tranny from an '04 for $2400 OBO. I have recently seen guys on this forum willing to drop $500 for miniscule hp gains and (a whopping) 7 lbs of torque, when we could drop in a '04 tl engine and gain 45 hp and 22 lb-ft of torque for about $1700. This is 10 times the hp and 3 times the torque for 3 times the $.

I know I cannot be the 1st to ask this question, so if anyone else has wondered this and has any good research or perspective, please add your comments. I am VERY interested in hearing you guys thoughts.

Silva-type-s

iTrader: (3)

I dont think they swapped. they used 3.5 internals. i.e crank & pistons.

ESank

Yeah, it looks like they used the 3.5 block and their 3.2 heads/intakes. Also looked like they were doing it with the intent of spraying nos. I have no desire to spray nos, just want a tranny that doesn't implode every 2 years and maybe stick 45 extra horses under the hood in the process. I don't really care about the 6spd conversion, I like my auto....when it works.

Thanks for the link to the 3.5 swap, Megalodon.

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

From what I know...it's only been a build up to 3.5

Never...transplanting a 3rd Gen engine into an 2nd Gen.

This has been discussed many times on the 2nd Gen CL forum.

AznWay

iTrader: (8)

Only thing I can tell you is... you will never know until someone try it.
Since the 04+ 6-speed tranny can bolt up onto 3.2 engine with no problem. I was wondering why don't more AZ member replace there bad Auto tranny for 04+ instead of get same old 99-03.

Now If you install 04+ engine an tranny I think only problem you will run into is rewiring an ECU issue.

TheMegalodon

I think the reason why a 3rd gen tranny swap isn't done is because it's not only about the tranny, but all of the interior pieces and what not. You're still going to need all that from a 2nd gen CL because that interior is identical to the TL.

JCharged

iTrader: (5)

Contact http://www.importperformancetrans.com/

fsttyms1

Why would you need any interior stuff for the auto trans? We arent talking about the 6 speed.

Yes the auto trans will bolt up. I dont know if it will work though. Im sure it can be made to. Getting the motor to may be more difficult. You will have to get rid of the drive by wire throttle body and use the cable one from your own car. If some one gets me the motor ill try

AznWay

iTrader: (8)

We need get someone in 3Gen TL to volunteers there car. So Kris can find out if this can be done

fsttyms1

Someone just needs to donate me the motor, ill do the rest.

fobstylez

iTrader: (3)

someone give it to him. I would love a 3gen motor/tranny swap, especially if its a new type s!

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

Sure...just tell me the address and I'll send one over right away!

JCharged

iTrader: (5)

Xquisit's TLP will be using the newer block for his build.

I don't see why we can't swap the newer motors into our cars with a little minor work. The heads may need work, and as Kris said the DBW system's gotta go. I'll look more into this as well.

fobstylez

iTrader: (3)

I really dont know too much about motor work but is he going to be running custom mounts? how is he going to get the block on there? If Xquisit is using a newer block then I dont see how this cant be done with some custom mounts and wiring right?

TheMegalodon

I was totally not thinking when I wrote my post...haha

ESank

Now we're talking!! So, I'm totally a noob with this type of thing...what would keep this from working? Electrical, such as wiring harness? ECU?

Anyone know if the motor mounts are the same b/w the 2 gens? If they are the same and it wasn't a big deal to change the DBW, would you also need to swap the ECU from a 3rd gen?



....................(dreaming about a Type S 3rd gen engine and tranny).....................:r olleyes:

ESank

Also, why would the heads need work? (Other than for performance upgrades....!)

fsttyms1

I wouldnt see why our mounts wouldnt work. I cant see them really changing the casting in the block for a different mount.

phee

iTrader: (5)

heads will work too. everything falls into place. only thing that im worried abotu is clearance due to the casted header pipes.

our ecu's may not add enough fuel so we may have a lean condition.

kdawg8526

iTrader: (3)

does the 07 type s engine bolt right on into a 2nd gen ?

fsttyms1

I think there would be plenty of room. ECU should compensate. There shouldnt be that much more fuel needed. If it can compensate for a turbo or 75 shot, the little difference in motor size shouldnt be a issue.

adamlee05

clearance with the cast header design is an easy fix IF it doesn't already fit fine. Slimfans are 2inch thinner than ours

bigjussin

i was told the gen3 trannies will not bolt up....can anyone confirm?

Aspec_03tl-s

hey i've got a big question for everyone here... I've seen ppl talking online about a 3.5l block with 3.2 heads from a DOHC nsx. I'm bored with my 260hp i want over 300 maybe even 350 but i want it NA and very reliable what are my best options and are the above mentioned swaps possible???