** Dyno Results ** 2003 TL-S: i/h/e - pics and vid
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** Dyno Results ** 2003 TL-S: i/h/e - pics and vid
well i finally went to get it based. made what i expected from seeing mulitple graphs on here. enjoy.
-aem cai
-xs headers
-tanabe hm catback
227.11/195.34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNV_qWv1WQ
definetly louder than in person, i was recording indoors.
-aem cai
-xs headers
-tanabe hm catback
227.11/195.34
![](http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7223/tlsdynotj5.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNV_qWv1WQ
definetly louder than in person, i was recording indoors.
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i've never looked at a dyno report before and never had one done, but if im reading that right, then it says you've got ~227 HP?
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
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Originally Posted by datzdaboi
Nice #s. Install ur pulley and spacers and put up another dyno.
Originally Posted by Gamezilla
i've never looked at a dyno report before and never had one done, but if im reading that right, then it says you've got ~227 HP?
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
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Originally Posted by Gamezilla
i've never looked at a dyno report before and never had one done, but if im reading that right, then it says you've got ~227 HP?
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
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Originally Posted by Gamezilla
i've never looked at a dyno report before and never had one done, but if im reading that right, then it says you've got ~227 HP?
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
With all the mods you have on your car, I was figuring you would be close to 300 HP, since the Type S has 260 HP + Intake/Headers/Exhaust, that should almost add up to 300HP
so could somebody please explain what im missing here
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
thats 227WHP, 227 HP at the wheel. HP is different from WHP.
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
correct me if im wrong, but a TL-P has about 190WHP
You need to figure in an almost 25% loss due to drivetrain on the automatic.
227 whp is not too shabby, btw.
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nice dyno, I have the same mods with different brands. I have the pullies and spacers also. I dynoed at 239whp and 201 f/lbs. You will be happy with the new mods!
ps:what gear did you dyno in?
ps:what gear did you dyno in?
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260HP is flywheel HP rating from the factory.
all HP ratings from the factory from any manufacturer is just that flywheel.
whp or hp to the wheels under load are what the engine really makes minus all other variables ie drivetrain loss, etc.
do u know what a stock TL S makes on that dyno?
edit: noticed ur in cali so this was on 91 cali piss correct?
of course dynos are just a tool to get a baseline for each modification. real world results would come from running the 1/4 mi and seeing what ur trap speed is.
all HP ratings from the factory from any manufacturer is just that flywheel.
whp or hp to the wheels under load are what the engine really makes minus all other variables ie drivetrain loss, etc.
do u know what a stock TL S makes on that dyno?
edit: noticed ur in cali so this was on 91 cali piss correct?
of course dynos are just a tool to get a baseline for each modification. real world results would come from running the 1/4 mi and seeing what ur trap speed is.
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Originally Posted by type-s09
nice dyno, I have the same mods with different brands. I have the pullies and spacers also. I dynoed at 239whp and 201 f/lbs. You will be happy with the new mods!
ps:what gear did you dyno in?
ps:what gear did you dyno in?
Originally Posted by stick
260HP is flywheel HP rating from the factory.
all HP ratings from the factory from any manufacturer is just that flywheel.
whp or hp to the wheels under load are what the engine really makes minus all other variables ie drivetrain loss, etc.
do u know what a stock TL S makes on that dyno?
edit: noticed ur in cali so this was on 91 cali piss correct?
of course dynos are just a tool to get a baseline for each modification. real world results would come from running the 1/4 mi and seeing what ur trap speed is.
all HP ratings from the factory from any manufacturer is just that flywheel.
whp or hp to the wheels under load are what the engine really makes minus all other variables ie drivetrain loss, etc.
do u know what a stock TL S makes on that dyno?
edit: noticed ur in cali so this was on 91 cali piss correct?
of course dynos are just a tool to get a baseline for each modification. real world results would come from running the 1/4 mi and seeing what ur trap speed is.
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Does anyone have a baseline graph for comparison?
The top end power has definitely improved and the torque powerband is pretty flat even before VTEC, but what about the low end, the throttle response must be good but was power sacrificed?
Also the power starts to drop off several hundred RPM before the 6900 RPM redline (though not any different from the stock 260HP @ 6100 RPM). I wonder if this is because the engine is not getting enough air in this area?
Anyway, great stats and your TL sounds like a monster!
Record us a video of you blasting thru a tunnel next time!
The top end power has definitely improved and the torque powerband is pretty flat even before VTEC, but what about the low end, the throttle response must be good but was power sacrificed?
Also the power starts to drop off several hundred RPM before the 6900 RPM redline (though not any different from the stock 260HP @ 6100 RPM). I wonder if this is because the engine is not getting enough air in this area?
Anyway, great stats and your TL sounds like a monster!
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Record us a video of you blasting thru a tunnel next time!
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Originally Posted by Black-Balled
Sorry- what were the BS #s?!?
Thanks for sharing the graph! Good read.
Thanks for sharing the graph! Good read.
Originally Posted by mr.motoring
Does anyone have a baseline graph for comparison?
The top end power has definitely improved and the torque powerband is pretty flat even before VTEC, but what about the low end, the throttle response must be good but was power sacrificed?
Also the power starts to drop off several hundred RPM before the 6900 RPM redline (though not any different from the stock 260HP @ 6100 RPM). I wonder if this is because the engine is not getting enough air in this area?
Anyway, great stats and your TL sounds like a monster!
Record us a video of you blasting thru a tunnel next time!
The top end power has definitely improved and the torque powerband is pretty flat even before VTEC, but what about the low end, the throttle response must be good but was power sacrificed?
Also the power starts to drop off several hundred RPM before the 6900 RPM redline (though not any different from the stock 260HP @ 6100 RPM). I wonder if this is because the engine is not getting enough air in this area?
Anyway, great stats and your TL sounds like a monster!
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Record us a video of you blasting thru a tunnel next time!
i was also amazed at how flat the torque curve was. and smoothing was on zero... if i smoothed it out, it would look like a straight line.
one thing i noticed. the hp/tq lines crossed at about 5200... i always thought, whereever they cross, thats the optimal vtec crossover. if you draw an imaginary line from before vtec to where it is @5200... looks like the line would be straight. it wouldnt have the dip and instant jump when vtec engages.
and about it flattening out after 6k, i noticed that too. i wanted to try a run without the filter, see if it was choking the motor, but the car was all strapped down and i didnt wanna bother them with all that. but then again, maybe it just peaked out and was slowly dropping back down.
btw, just for the hell of it. i put the j32 up against my ex-accord. weight and gearing make a big difference. you can see the huge variance in power... but before the tl got the intake/exhaust, it lost to the accord on the freeway.
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i have a question for all you out there with more knowledge than myself.
i noticed that right after 6k, the power levels off... it doesnt peak and drop like all the other graphs ive seen. not to mention, mine levels off a little before 6 1/4... most of the peaks ive seen are being hit around 6.5. could the fact that im using a cleaned, yet used filter be hurting my highend?
im considering a couple things. gimme your input on which i should get.
1. new filter
2. new filter/velocity stack
3. test pipe & o2 terminator
4. smsp obd1 highflow cat & weld bung after cat/relocate sensor
something is choking the motor, cause the band is not supposed to flatten out like that. i definetly dont want to spend bigbucks on a obd2 highflow cat... so im unsure of what to do.
i noticed that right after 6k, the power levels off... it doesnt peak and drop like all the other graphs ive seen. not to mention, mine levels off a little before 6 1/4... most of the peaks ive seen are being hit around 6.5. could the fact that im using a cleaned, yet used filter be hurting my highend?
im considering a couple things. gimme your input on which i should get.
1. new filter
2. new filter/velocity stack
3. test pipe & o2 terminator
4. smsp obd1 highflow cat & weld bung after cat/relocate sensor
something is choking the motor, cause the band is not supposed to flatten out like that. i definetly dont want to spend bigbucks on a obd2 highflow cat... so im unsure of what to do.
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You need to know what the af is also. I highly doubt the filter or any thing is choking the motor. Most likey its the ecu. Reset it before hand. Also like i said deed to find out the AF is to see what teh ecu is kinda doing. This is where a vafc or Emanage would be nice now to tune it. Also make sure that your 2nd stage actuator is working
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
You need to know what the af is also. I highly doubt the filter or any thing is choking the motor. Most likey its the ecu. Reset it before hand. Also like i said deed to find out the AF is to see what teh ecu is kinda doing. This is where a vafc or Emanage would be nice now to tune it. Also make sure that your 2nd stage actuator is working
and about the vafc, ive read on here... and i believe that you might have said as well, that the vafc is useless. people have actually lost power from trying to tune with it.
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that's pretty nice. my '99 made 194 and that's with i/h/p and vafc but it was done in a very hot and humid day in s.FL so 227 sounds very realistic and i bet that thing is fast!
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Where did you get your car dyno'ed? and how much is it for each run? BTW very nice numbers, im hoping to be where your at after my header/exhaust install...
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i ran the car at dnr in hayward. and no, i never ran it stock. i didnt want to spend money on dynoing a stock motor. i wasnt going to do baseruns after the mods either, but i figured, just to check to see if im at where i should be. anything in the 220's is good, so im happy.
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Im about ready to see where im at before I put on a AFC NEO for my final mod. Will probably end up going to DNR too. As of right now I have XS Power Headers, AEM CAI, Magnaflow Hi-flow cat and a custom axleback exhaust with the stock b-pipe. Im hoping for around 230 but I think the stock b-pipe is holding me back, we'll see. This is on my 01 CL-S btw.
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Originally Posted by gc86
Im about ready to see where im at before I put on a AFC NEO for my final mod. Will probably end up going to DNR too. As of right now I have XS Power Headers, AEM CAI, Magnaflow Hi-flow cat and a custom axleback exhaust with the stock b-pipe. Im hoping for around 230 but I think the stock b-pipe is holding me back, we'll see. This is on my 01 CL-S btw.
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