fsttyms1

Yea and our taxes will increase with them as well Our govt has no control over the oil prices other than the measly tax they put on it.

fsttyms1

Between the 3 vehicles its close to 100k a year

03aspec

one of the many reasons i drive a TL is because i want too save money on gas. so no, i would never sell my car because of the price of gas. im averaging about 350-370 kms on one 50 liter tank, i dunno about you guys but i think thats pretty damn good. filled up yesterday with supreme for $1.37 a liter.

01tl4tl

hey meth- wtf are you smokin man
They will raise our salaries? to keep up with rising everything??
Got any openings at your company????
- because most biz are struggling to keep up with rising electricity cost- and insurance-work comp insurance- health coverage, and big box stores driving the small places into the ground with the buying power and govt cooperation

Thanks to the stupid ethanol gas program- corn prices are up big time and causing Mexico to not have tortillas for their own people!- it cost to much to make them- america thinks they can make gas from this stuff- except it takes lots of guess what- fossil fuel to make. doh! scammed again
In the mangled words of dub:
fooled me once shame on you
fooled me twice.. ummmm.... cant get fooled again~

FireNation23

gas is gas man we all have to pay for it. My 2001 TL is pretty reasonable and I live in jersey (one the of cheapest states for gas). Its 4-23-08 and gas just hit the highest I've ever seen here ($3.60) for premium. I get about 350 miles easily on a full tank maybe push it to 400. Only thing I wouldnt do is get a truck or suv.

guyenacurazine

it is actually:

fooled me once, shame on you
fooled me twice, shame on me.

Edward'TLS

Yeah, with the recession slowing creeping in, it is more likely to fight to keep the job than to expect a pay raise.

rob-2

recession... ha you guys are truly smoking the good stuff.

Slow to flat growth is not a recession. People getting all excited and acting like it's a recession will cause the very thing they fear.

As for the cost of living/energy, it's called inflation and is what happens when our dollar is at a record low. Our foolish spending/lending practices have come home to roost.

Oil is largely up here because of our weak dollar, demand is up yes, but not at the rate the dollar is falling.

We haven't hit a recession, don't believe what you're reading and seeing on our stupid media. They sell fear for a living.

FuriousSam

I love my baby far too much to switch to anything else. And I also fill up once every two weeks since my job is only 15 miles away.

02TLSU

word! its going to be a while before hybrids are worth their price unless you are an environmentalist or something..

carlos9827

iTrader: (2)

I would NEVER give up my car. No matter what the price of gas was. Think of this this way, you are going to have to buy gas regardless, unless you want to ride a bike everywhere, I really don't want to be driving around in a Prius or Civic Hybrid. Don't get me wrong, those are great cars, but I love my 05 TL.

heavyjdaman

at almost age 17, its a struggle for me to pay for gas, but no way will i give up my 02 tl. i go to school full time and dont have time for even part time jobs. my solution? I do car washes for people who live on my street on weekends. on a good weekend i make about $70. on average i'll make about $40, which almost covers the $50-$55 i shell out on (right now, not for long) $4.04 premium gas. i find a way to make it through, because i love my baby to much!

mmmmmbarb

iTrader: (1)

yeah gas is hurting... i found an alternate means of transportation...specialized hardrock! But i still keep the tl in the driveway for emergencies.

TL1999

never will gave it up for the reason of high gas cost....

Tommy99TL

I won't give up on my TL either regardless of what gas price cost is. Remember in Europe, they already has this experience with $5 (us)/gallon since 20 years ago. We're just barely started. I know the US economic hurt everyone of us, but trading my TL to get a new car with better MPG is not worth of saving $$$ (at least in my case).
So, what I'm going to do beside keeping the TL?
1: Open a Discover card (The one with 5% off on every gallon I fill) or similar CC with gas saving program.
2: Driving more careful to avoid those stupid tickets.
3: Instead of trading my TL and spending $400/month for a new car (Like 2008 Accord Hybrid ), I took out $400 off my paid check toward the saving. During this time, should my TL need some $$$ for service/repair, I will withdraw it and use it.
The amount in saving will grow up as long as I keep my TL. Sure my TL will loss the value as it's getting older but on the other hand, The "year" of my future new car will gain (ex: 2010 instead of 2008)
This is just my thought to share with all of you.

Never Summer

I don't pay for gas, my dad does. He is in the oil business, I could care less how much it costs.

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

^wtf help us out with some oil/ gas. i wish my dad gave me money for gas

Willie3.5

I will never save the TL, never. We might as well get use to it.

02type-s

I won't sell my TL b/c of gas prices. I love it too much. I might buy an Integra or a Civic to DD tho.

guyenacurazine

I am damn sure that those dirty ppl at white house are causing all the recession by intent so divert publics opinion from iraq war.

EL19

iTrader: (4)

i would never sell my TL for gas....im just gona buy a bike(motorcycle) and enjoy filling up with 6 gallons once a week lol...during the winter ill b short tho & rainy days, but thats what the car is for

ChucksCL-S

Also know that for years the oil companies have asked for more refineries to be built and for permits to drill, all DENIED by the EPA. So other countries get our dollars and the feel good solution ethanol (made from corn) just drives up food prices. So here we are: high food AND fuel prices.

JeffNY

I am lucky I need to drive a lot less than I did two years ago, but in 2007 I drove about 12,160 miles. A lot less than in years past. But fuel cost for the car was still about $2200. In Jan. '07 I was paying about $2.67/gal. In Dec. '07 $3.22/gal. But gas continues to increase WAY beyond that now (funny, never any waiting lines, the price just goes up & up).

I have cancelled my plans to buy an '09 TL, which I was really looking forward to. Why have a $35,000 car that has to sit in the garage because you can't afford gas. My long ago paid for '99 TL can do that just as well.

I am now keeping an eye on Honda CR-Z developments, that might be my next car, not sure yet.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CR-Z

But maybe it's really becoming cost effective to convert your TL to electric like this guy did: http://www.bzzzzt.net/

The key are the batteries. But there are batteries coming soon that will solve this, like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eestor

humm $8 bucks worth of electricity or $60 bucks worth of gas, which do you prefer? ....even self power with solar cells (Honda makes them you know) or wind generator http://www.platek.com/wind/verticals.html

And just think, an internal combustion engine (and tranmission) has thousands of parts. An electric motor a hand full. And no exhaust system, no EGR valve or water pump or timing belt or spark plugs or air filter or oil changes or radiator fluid to worry about.

Hey Big Oil man, time to stick that gas nozzle up your greedy a$$ and pull the lever!!! hahahah

JeffNY

The other thing to keep in mind is that most of us (unless we can write off the expence as a business expence) buy gasoline with after-tax dollars. So to buy $3000.00 worth of gasoline you have to "earn" about $5000.00.....gee, over 5 years thats $25,000 you have to earn just to put gas in your car. That's almost the cost of a TL itself!

mrproul

that is why i havent sold my integra yet it is a great DD. good luck finding one in decent shape. i beat my integra to shit but am slowly returning to stock just to get the 32 MPG's.

ChrisQ1980

I'm kicking myself for getting rid of my 94 Integra LS (auto) I sold it with 194k and got $4,000 for it a lil over 2 years ago. The kid that purchased it has 255k on it now with just basic maintence.

I was thinking of picking one up as a DD, but my TL is so much nicer to drive in. Not to mention I just filled up and averaged 27.07 mpg =)

hoopz87

wow am i the only one that has no clue what hes saying lol..

carlos9827

iTrader: (2)

^^same here? 1.37 for gas...at first I thought it was per gallon, I was gonna say....sh*t.. I'm moving to canada too...

princelybug

iTrader: (16)

IMHO, it doesn't matter what car you drive, whether it's a TL or a Nissan Titan. Whether you get 30mpg, or 9mpg. People have to drive to work and to get around, and they'll even pay $8/gallon if that's what it comes to. Simple as that. Remember when gas hit $2/gallon 10-15 years ago? People said they wouldn't drive, but look at us now, well over $4/gallon. We are driving just as much as ever. It doesn't matter what car you drive, or what fuel costs become. We will drive no matter what. It's a fact of life.

black label

He was quoting our incredibly literate Commander in Chief, you know, the guy who says words like "nuke-ular" and "misunderestimated"

the quote was as correct as it could be coming out of dubbya's mouth.

black label

Wow, never thought about it that way.......

....thanks for rubbing salt in the wounds

dashiz_07TL

IF u can afford to by a 3g TL u can afford the gaS
ya'Digg

hoopz87

i dig wayne

haha i say that shyt all the time

korrupted

Yup, but it still sucks to bay $48 for 12 gal.

hairything

x2,

a recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters with a negative GDP. GDP growth for 4Q(2007) was plus 0.6%. 1Q(2008) GDP will be reported on 30 April.

IMO, oil will not go down anytime soon, more likely up. If it does go down, it'll only be a temporary time period. Oil is a finite source of energy. Drilling at a faster rate with new techniques only speeds up the pace of depleting oil. So yes, a temporary fix but delaying the inevitable.

I'll probably get a more fuel efficient car after this TL dies (currently at '03 TL-P 54k miles). Man, I love this car...lol but the maintenance/gas on this car is spending most of my monthly income.

JeffNY

>>IF u can afford to by a 3g TL u can afford the gaS
ya'Digg<<

No. I don't Digg. hahaha

erick3

dude...freaking never! i'd rather take the bus!...in which i already do...haha car stays home on the weekdays

Seikoja

well my gas mileage isnt too bad at how these prices are i bought a safc neo for $300 about a year ago n its money well spent cause i get way better mileage w it. n i havent tune the low trottle correctly cause w the stock exhaust the dyno's wideband cant get a read on air/fuel ratio but trust me way better. i understand if guys want to give up their tl's cause when u put $20 n u cant get half tank its fustrating.

bournehall

My uncle has acura and has never used anything but regular gas, calls for premium. Never once has he had a problem, well over 200K miles

redman042

Like many others posting here, I'm glad I have a TL as opposed to the other luxury gas guzzlers out there. The fact that we need premium is a drawback, but so do most of the other lux cars, and at least we get mileage in the mid 20's, which most others don't.

I don't see myself switching any time soon, unless the cost of gas doubles and the mileage of a hybrid doubles at the same time.

Most TL owners are going to be reasonably well-off anyway to even choose a $34k car in the first place, so gas cost shouldn't be a big driver.

You know, as much as people complain about the current cost of gas, I believe that, as a percentage of average income, it is still much lower than it used to be decades ago. I saw a chart on this once - wish I could find it again.