Guest

This may be a dumb question but i'll ask it anyways...can the TL-S be turbocharged? if so, how to, how much, etc? And any other suggestions for big HP gains would be nice. Thanks.

Haven't even driven 500 miles in the car (it's at 470). The break in period is killing me.

dougbert

It probably could be, but you'll have to find someone willing to do it. According to the product info, the engine opens a butterfly valve at 3800rpm and starts it's own turbocharging effect...albeit, surely not as strong as bolting on an extra turbocharger (or supercharger)

AcuraTLDriver

I've been looking for a supercharger/turbocharger application for my 2000 TL but nobody has one. I heard that Top Fuel in Japan makes one for the Inspire but their website has been "under construction" for a long time now (www.topfuel.co.jp). You might have to spend big $$$ for a custom system. Also, if one comes out for the V6 Accord it most likely will adapt to the TL.

MUGENUA

Top Fuel makes great turbo's but very costly !

I don't know if they make it for the inspire but I can ask cause they have a distrub in CA called VSPEC.

bricot

Which one is it Turbo or Supercharger that you can't (or have to be VERY carefull) doing to high compression engines? Thought it was Turbo....

mikester

I think either one you need to be careful with. Also, I wonder just how much of a boost you would get from a turbocharger. The intake mods they did on the TLS is supposed to be an effect like turbocharging. I'm sure the boost from a real turbocharger would be higher, but I don't think you would see gains as large as you would for a TLP.

This just seems like something dangerous to play around with on a brand new $30k+ vehicle! If you don't trash the rod bearings, there's a good chance you will trash the transmission. I'll let you guys play around with turbochargers first, and if you can go a couple years without replacing your tranny, then I'll think about getting the mod myself!

RX-72ATL-S

It's definitely dangerous being a high compression motor, but...Comptech has designed a SC for the S2000, and it's high compression as well. They had some glitches but I think they fixed them. My buddy ran a blower on his high compression motor(302) and he blew head gaskets all day. He even bought metal racing gaskets (aluminum maybe I'm not sure) and blew those too. So I would recommend an expert.

city001

in auto car parts...i saw there's a turbo system from Apexi that works for all model and year of car....maybe u can use that on the TL as well. it has 2 turbo system : 1 is around 1300 , the other is about 3000.

G

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

Even if they did/do make a turbo/SC for the TL-S/TL, I would imagine that even if the engine survived the mod, I highly doubt the stock transmission would last more than 10K miles after the install. A level 10 upgrade would be necessary, so now you're talking much more money.

Also, the acura website says, "supercharger" effect, not turbocharger. Turbos, someone correct me if I'm wrong, work by forced induction and forced exhaust, whereas S/C's are strictly forced air induction.

TLinBama

The t/c trubine is spun by the exhaust gases.
The s/c turbine is spun by a belt on the crank.

RHINO928

Now this is a great topic! I LOVE HP ADDERS!!!!! I am quite familiar with all three!!!!!!

Tlbama is correct, in that a turbo works on the exhaust side while a supercharger works on the intake side. There are many differences in the applications and how they make horse power and where in the rpm's each of them produce torque. The supercharger is in most cases easier to applicate compared to a turbo. The tuff thing with a turbo is that they can not create full boost for long or they will burn up..$$$$...... A supercharger can go "balls" out as long as the air coming in is cool and that the engine compression ratio is correct for the amount of "bar" being produced. There are several reasons why the supercharger is easier to applicate so let's just leave it at that!!!
Since a supercharger(aka. blower/huffer) is on the intake side the engines compression ratio dictates the amount of boost you can run. Other variables are, what type of pistons(cast vs. forged) are being used? How much air can the heads flow? What size fuel injector is being used? All of these things come into play when you apply a blower. The compression ratio on a TL-S is 10:5:1, This is higher than you would want for race applications but for everyday driving and LOW BOOST apllications it's perfect. You could run 5 - 7 psi of boost SAFELY "IF" the fuel to air mixture is correct. This is done by utilizing a Rising Rate Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator and a calibrated FMU...... The 5 to 7 lbs of boost would make about 100 to 150 more horse power and around the same for torque ALL AT THE FRONT WHEELS!!!!!!!
I am sure plenty of you are foaming at the mouth right now, but again Pete raises a great question.... Can the tranny take it????
It is truly 50/50 with the auto - only testing would tell. In my OPINION it would be able to take it....... A 5spd no problem....
Adding one to a car would not be as difficult as one might think.
If I had to put a price on building the system, it would be around $4000 to $5000. Since you would be pioneering the application ther would be countless hours of R&D testing...... For a minimum of 100HP and 100FWT that is still pretty cheap power!!!!!!!!!
Who wants to be a guinea pig???????

shinobi

i'll be a guinea pig, if you can tell me where to buy one, or where to get one custom made.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

www.comptechusa.com

r10apple

Yeah, Comptech has the sc for our car, but it is only around 40hp in gains for the AT at this time. They are working on a piggyback ECU to go along with the sc to boost this closer to 60hp (as is, both have similar tq gains at low rpm's)...
Anyway, scalbert, modaddict, smitty, zodiak--they all have 'em and can tell you the benefits. Modaddict and zodial are the only one's with the AT that I know of...

all_motor2000 at a-cl.com had one of, if no the firs turbo'd cl-s's...His custom fab is now owned by Titan19...The car was under 13.0 1/4 with that set-up...To my knowledge, there is no "kit" on the market, and a turbo would have to be custom and likely cost more than the sc kit, though potential gains would be greater, just likely not safer or as reliable...

car_lost

this thread is as old as dirt.

`ill*tl

Would it be smart to put any type of forced induction on our questionable tranny???

shinobi

well, i plan on gettin the level 10 tranny upgrade, so i figured it would be alright. am i wrong in thinking this? anyone kno where i can get one made? turbo that is

SeCsTaC

I got a twin turbo'ed TL-P. Its running two Greddy T-78s ;D

njtls

whats the lvl 10 trany upgrade?...if my tranny could handle power i would be all for some forced induction

badazzTL

i believe austin on the other board did this as well as a sh!t load of other mods...

shinobi

it's an upgrade that re-inforces your tranny.

Got_3.2?

iTrader: (2)

r u serious????? :wow:

post pics bro!!!!! LOL

the only turboed 3.2 i kno is the CL-S on acl.com

badazzTL

um, i think he's jokin, he put the " ;D " face.

car_lost

one turbo would barely fit so im calling bullsh!t on the twin turbo guy.

SeCsTaC

It was a joke. Greddy T-78s are pretty big turbos for the Supra RX-7 and the like. Lol i shoulda said i was runnin a T-88H ;D (biggest turbo greddy manufactures)