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Hi, I am trying to get my cruise control working.
I am completely inept, so I am totally out of my depth, any help would be greatly appreciate.
Mechanic said I needed new throttle body; OEM parts are $700ish. Trying to track down the right part from a used dealer to save money, but i am not sure what to use. Mechanic doesnt "do" web or used parts but will install if I find it.
I tried looking on web but I am not sure what the exact part is and whether the models I have found are the right ones.
The current OEM part # for the 03 TL-S throttle body is 16400-PGE-A03. It appears that that part # supersedes 16400-PGE-A01, 16400-PGE-A02. Refer to #6 on the link below:
In addition, the part shown on the EBAY link you supplied appears to be the TCS control valve; #9 on the link above. That is not the same part you are pointing to in your picture. In fact, that part is just forward of your finger in the first picture.
The default picture in the first link you provided does not look like 16400-PGE-A03; however, if you purchase from that site, which appears to aggregate used throttle bodies for sale from salvage yards at the bottom, then make sure the one you purchase matches 16400-PGE-A03.
Zeta, Thanks for your response! You are right the EBAY link is definitely the wrong one, I can see that now.
I appreciate your help, and I can see, looking at the link you provided, #6 is the right part, 16400-PGE-A03.
When I look at the picture of the throttle body type s that you provide, it seems like the part that is broken, that I am pointing to in the 2ND photo, is the #7 link, 16411-OGE-A01, Stay, Throttle wire. That piece is only $18.55
According to my mechanic, the only problem is that the plastic part of the back side of the throttle wire guide has broken off, and the bare metal does not keep the wire in place.
Can I just swap out that tiny part and leave the rest of the throttle body in place?
Thanks!
Unfortunately, your mechanic is correct. The black plastic part you are pointing at in the second picture is not replaceable. It will become evident to you once you get the throttle body (TB) removed from the Intake manifold and get a good look at it. To get your cruise control to work that plastic part needs to be 'whole' to safely '...keep the wire in place' as he stated, sorry.
The 'stay' that you mention #7 is just a metal bracket that keeps the throttle cable and the cruise cable in position for smooth actuation while in use. If you look at the parts diagram in the link provided above, you can see the 'round' actuation parts on the backside of the TB just below and to the left of #7 as an integral part of the TB assembly.
Thanks again Zeta, much appreciated!
I will try to find a salvage part replacement for the entire unit and if that fails, I will order the OEM part from the site you provided.
Yeah, when they don't provide an accurate picture it makes 'pulling the trigger' a little more difficult.
It does state 'Throttle Body Assembly'. You placed the correct criteria in the order: 2003 Acura TL, Type-S. Therefore, they should send the correct part; although, it is a 'roll of the dice' with some of these salvage yards, as long as the criteria is correct, you should get lucky.
so i have been trying to obtain a replacement throttle body. the first one i ordered came broken in the exact same spot as the original unit.
the 2nd one i ordered was just received by my mechanic.
it is this piece: https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Throttl...53.m2749.l2649
my mechanic says this unit has a block on the back of it, unlike the original part, which attached directly to the manifold. he thinks he can attach it but only if he takes off the block, and he is not sure if it will work
my question is, is this the right thing to do, or do i have to send it back because it is not the correct part?
Thanks!
Originally Posted by zeta
Yeah, when they don't provide an accurate picture it makes 'pulling the trigger' a little more difficult.
It does state 'Throttle Body Assembly'. You placed the correct criteria in the order: 2003 Acura TL, Type-S. Therefore, they should send the correct part; although, it is a 'roll of the dice' with some of these salvage yards, as long as the criteria is correct, you should get lucky.
my mechanic says this unit has a block on the back of it, unlike the original part, which attached directly to the manifold. he thinks he can attach it but only if he takes off the block, and he is not sure if it will work
If you look at the link below, which is for a 2003 TL-P, I believe the 'block' or spacer that you are refferring to is #8: https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-p...ttle-body-scat
So that throttle body would fit the TL-P intake manifold.
If you look at the link below, which is for a 2003 TL-S, there is no block present. Not sure if that part will work with your TL-S Intake manifold or not. In addition, I'm not sure the model 'compatability' data supplied on that page is completely accurate either, even though it states the unit will work with the TL-S. https://www.oemacuraparts.com/auto-p...dy-type-s-scat
Originally Posted by nrg200
my question is, is this the right thing to do, or do i have to send it back because it is not the correct part?
Thanks!
IMHO, it's looking like that part is not compatible with the TL-S.
Zeta, thanks for your response. My mechanic confirmed that it is not compatible, he said even if he removed the block or spacer it would not line up correctly.
This is the 2nd unit I have purchased that hasn't worked, unfortunately.
I keep looking at the online listings and I really cannot determine if they are the right ones or not. Can you tell me if you think any of the following ones will work properly?
Thanks!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-2002-2...RZr4nx&vxp=mtr
The first link looks like the best of the five you provided. Although a little rough looking, the whole assembly for sale in the first link, along with the throttle body, also includes the TCS control valve.
Looking at the 3rd; 4th; 5th and 6th pictures, it appears to show the part you are concerned with, the 'cruise control piece of plastic', on the throttle body to be intact, as far as I can observe. If the description provided is accurate and this TB/TCS assembly came from a '03 CL-S than it should be compatible with your '03 TL-S because they share the same part #'s.
164000-PGE-A03; Throttle Body
168000-PGE-A01; TCS control valve
The fourth link appears to be a TB/TCS assembly, as well; however, the pictures suck so I would pass that one up.
All the other links are the TCS control valve only, even though the description states 'Throttle Body'.
No problem. I hope you find 'joy' this time around. Just make sure your mechanic gives the butterfly valve and the IACV a good cleaning and hopefully all the 'electrics' work as they should.
My cruise control plastic pulley is broken too. I think I'm going to get a throttle body from the junkyard and pull it apart, then try to machine a pulley out of aluminum. I see this is a big issue on CLs, TLs, Accords, etc. If it goes well and is possible to replace, would anybody be interested in an aluminum pulley?
Here's how I repaired mine about 5 years ago. A little bit of dremmeling so the barrel end of the cable fits square in the the pulley . Drill a hole for the cotter pin and pinch
the cotter pin ends flush against the pulley so they don't interfere with the square bracket of the throttle assembly. The cotter pin is there only to hold down the cable, all
of the force is at the barrel end which pulls the pulley around. Food for thought
I just looked at mine, although it is not in need of repair, there is plenty of room to get a very small drill bit onto/through that plastic without worrying about interference from the outer round metal part securing the throttle cable end. Also, as evidenced by your picture above, that plastic is pretty thick, so once you get the hole drilled there is plenty of surrounding 'meat' or plastic to hold that cotter pin securely fastening the cruise cable end in place, well done.
11-29-2017, 03:55 PM
