Tl Vs Mx6?
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Tl Vs Mx6?
Sup everyone. Outside from that story when I burned an Eclipse,
My friend has a MX6. The newer style body. I don't know alot about them, so I thought I'd ask if you guys thought I might be able to beat him. All he has in an intake, and an exaust. Plus his is a standard. But, I personally think Trip-tronic shifts faster. I dunno, that's not the question. He's a pretty good driver, and is always asking me, "Pauly, when we gonna race?" Figured I'd throw this out there. He is very confident that his 160 HP car can take me. I don't know why. Thanks guys,
-Paul-
My friend has a MX6. The newer style body. I don't know alot about them, so I thought I'd ask if you guys thought I might be able to beat him. All he has in an intake, and an exaust. Plus his is a standard. But, I personally think Trip-tronic shifts faster. I dunno, that's not the question. He's a pretty good driver, and is always asking me, "Pauly, when we gonna race?" Figured I'd throw this out there. He is very confident that his 160 HP car can take me. I don't know why. Thanks guys,
-Paul-
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Your car will win but please, HP is not everything to a car.
Your car will win but please, HP is not everything to a car.
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Originally posted by TouringLuxury99
Sup everyone. Outside from that story when I burned an Eclipse,
My friend has a MX6. The newer style body. I don't know alot about them, so I thought I'd ask if you guys thought I might be able to beat him. All he has in an intake, and an exaust. Plus his is a standard. But, I personally think Trip-tronic shifts faster. I dunno, that's not the question. He's a pretty good driver, and is always asking me, "Pauly, when we gonna race?" Figured I'd throw this out there. He is very confident that his 160 HP car can take me. I don't know why. Thanks guys,
-Paul-
Sup everyone. Outside from that story when I burned an Eclipse,
My friend has a MX6. The newer style body. I don't know alot about them, so I thought I'd ask if you guys thought I might be able to beat him. All he has in an intake, and an exaust. Plus his is a standard. But, I personally think Trip-tronic shifts faster. I dunno, that's not the question. He's a pretty good driver, and is always asking me, "Pauly, when we gonna race?" Figured I'd throw this out there. He is very confident that his 160 HP car can take me. I don't know why. Thanks guys,
-Paul-
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Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me. I'm a good shifter, and I'm sure he is too, but he's only an 18 year old kid, so I'm sure there's better. I know my shifting is alot faster.
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Originally posted by TouringLuxury99
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me. I'm a good shifter, and I'm sure he is too, but he's only an 18 year old kid, so I'm sure there's better. I know my shifting is alot faster.
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me. I'm a good shifter, and I'm sure he is too, but he's only an 18 year old kid, so I'm sure there's better. I know my shifting is alot faster.
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Originally posted by TouringLuxury99
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me. I'm a good shifter, and I'm sure he is too, but he's only an 18 year old kid, so I'm sure there's better. I know my shifting is alot faster.
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me. I'm a good shifter, and I'm sure he is too, but he's only an 18 year old kid, so I'm sure there's better. I know my shifting is alot faster.
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I know there is a lag response time, but it's pretty minimal. I tried it out today, on the highway, and from dead stop. I know for a fact that it's smoother than a manual. And it's alot smother than an automatic. Soo.... Verdict is in. I bet I can take him. The clutch disengages the tranny on a standard transmission car. Our trannys are never disengaged, as far as I know, so therefore you just keep your foot on the gas and go. With a standard, you have to do alot more than push up a lever. It's more of a science, and to each his own for every car and that inbetween. I think trip-tronic is faster, and no I'm not kidding.
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actually a automatic can shift faster than a human ever could!
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This is true, but an atomatic can never ever THINK like a human can. This is whyStandard drivers usually 99% of the time has an advantage. Unless it's a trip-tronic.
I feel that a trip-tronic has the pros of both, and the cons of neither. I think it's better, personally. I have to say, I would rather have a standard though. I love working the clutch and ****. But for racing, trip-tronic is better. Why do you think F1 cars have it? (Obviously it's a little different) But the concept holds.
I feel that a trip-tronic has the pros of both, and the cons of neither. I think it's better, personally. I have to say, I would rather have a standard though. I love working the clutch and ****. But for racing, trip-tronic is better. Why do you think F1 cars have it? (Obviously it's a little different) But the concept holds.
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Dude f1 cars have a TRUE semi-manual transmission. It essentially is a manual in that it has no torque converter like an auto, it has the same components as a manual, except you shift by hitting paddles on the wheel. These systems are programmed to shift in literally milliseconds. Our tiptronics are not by any means a true semi-manual. That means it still has the torque converter, and still has the disadvantages of an auto tranny. A manual can shift much faster and smoother, w/ a decent driver. But yes, you can easily take an mx6 still.
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I would never replace a manual with a tip. Either go all the way and get the auto, or get a manual. Either way, try taking him on a twisty stretch of road. I gaurantee you won't even be able to see him. He would be WAY ahead of you. Now I hope you don't actually go out there and do this, but just wanted to throw it out there. I don't think a HEAVILY modified TL suspension will come close to a stock mx-6 suspension. It is truly amazing for a FWD car. Now if you do race him and beat him, do NOT come on here saying you can beat any MX-6 ever not matter what.
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I would never replace a manual with a tip. Either go all the way and get the auto, or get a manual .................................................. ................................. Now if you do race him and beat him, do NOT come on here saying you can beat any MX-6 ever not matter what.
I would never replace a manual with a tip. Either go all the way and get the auto, or get a manual .................................................. ................................. Now if you do race him and beat him, do NOT come on here saying you can beat any MX-6 ever not matter what.
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Don't worry about it HZM, the overpriced VW, I mean Audi dude there seems to hate me. Oh well, Those German cars suck anyways. Try to repair them. Go figure. Anyhow, I'm not gonna pay attention to him anymore. As for a MX6's suspension, I think our 30k dollar car might have a better suspension than a 23k Mazda. Plus it's older. (Yes, I know the new Mazda car is pretty sick) But reguardless, today I'll go into work and tell that biatch what's up. =) Just kidding guys, he's my friend. By the way, you have a 350Z?? Dude, that car kicks ass. I want one so bad. I don't believe you have a TL AND a 350Z. You, are by far, the coolest person I know, and I don't even know you.
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Originally posted by TouringLuxury99
Don't worry about it HZM, the overpriced VW, I mean Audi dude there seems to hate me. Oh well, Those German cars suck anyways. Try to repair them. Go figure. Anyhow, I'm not gonna pay attention to him anymore. As for a MX6's suspension, I think our 30k dollar car might have a better suspension than a 23k Mazda. Plus it's older. (Yes, I know the new Mazda car is pretty sick) But reguardless, today I'll go into work and tell that biatch what's up. =) Just kidding guys, he's my friend. By the way, you have a 350Z?? Dude, that car kicks ass. I want one so bad. I don't believe you have a TL AND a 350Z. You, are by far, the coolest person I know, and I don't even know you.
You rock.
-Paul-
Don't worry about it HZM, the overpriced VW, I mean Audi dude there seems to hate me. Oh well, Those German cars suck anyways. Try to repair them. Go figure. Anyhow, I'm not gonna pay attention to him anymore. As for a MX6's suspension, I think our 30k dollar car might have a better suspension than a 23k Mazda. Plus it's older. (Yes, I know the new Mazda car is pretty sick) But reguardless, today I'll go into work and tell that biatch what's up. =) Just kidding guys, he's my friend. By the way, you have a 350Z?? Dude, that car kicks ass. I want one so bad. I don't believe you have a TL AND a 350Z. You, are by far, the coolest person I know, and I don't even know you.
You rock.
-Paul-
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Originally posted by TouringLuxury99
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me.
Uh, Trip-tronic is faster.... No intervul between netural gears. There is no neutral... So therefore, it is faster. The slowest Trip-tronic can be, is the fastest standard can me.
True manumatics, like F1 cars and the Ferrari Enzo etc, have an electronically operated clutch and no torque converter. Now in these instances, the manumatics could be faster *in theory* because the shifting is always done at the optium point and done very quickly.
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I know that an automatic tranny loses 25% HP, and a standard only loses about 15 or 10. (At the wheels) I know that the flywheel deal is more than what the tires get. But his car is a standard with 160HP, ours is an auto with 225HP... From what he tells me, the cars weigh about the same.
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