bug230

I have a 2002 TL-S and I'm looking to replace my factory fog lights with superwhites. Do I have to replace the entire light system, or can I just replace the bulbs with the superwhites? Could you point me in the right direction (location of where I can make the purchase and part # would be very benifitial)

thank you!

03TLTYPES

Try the Naxos Blue Fog Bulbs. $27 free shipping!

axleback

03TLTYPES,
Would you happen to have pictures of those foglights when lid? I've been trying to find some foglights that would have a good match with our HID headlights and so far nothing satisfactory. Where did you buy them from?

axleback

03TLTYPES

I can't post pics, I don't think!

What is your email and I will send it over?

BlackFire TLS

What bulbs have you tried so far? I heard some positive comment about SilverStar on this site.

bluedragon

I HAVE THE PIAA SUPERWHITE...THEY'RE ALRIGHT, BUT NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HID LOOK, I THINK I'M GOING CHANGE MY TO THE LEXUS LOOK ALIKE YELLOW LIGHT,LIKE THE OTHER GUYS ON THIS FORUM

my2sense

yeah, PIAA superwhites suck.. the only reason i'm using them is because they were the headlight bulbs on my last car. at least they last a long time... (almost 3 years now)

Smitty02CLs

I have the PIAA 5 watt, they look better then stock. Some people go to the 18watt but have problems with the light housing buring.

BlackFire TLS

I tho our fogs work with 55 watt.

axleback

ultra_man@mailcity.com

Thanks in advance
axleback

axleback

I've tried PIAA SuperWhites (although better than stock, they still look "yellow" compared with our HIDs) and Silvania 9000s (these are terrible...looks like somebody vomitted on my fogs):yack:

axleback

Smitty02CLs

don't think so, install a 55 watt and you'll have a nice fire in a few min. 5 watt is stock, however you can go to 18watt with little melting

Iggy

Smiity,
Pull one of the bulbs and you will find they are Stanley HB4 12V 51w. I put the Silvania 9006ST set in mine which run at 55W with no probs whatsoever.

Cheers

go-types

naxos blue. u can order it fm www.autodirectsave.com (the cheapest i have ever found). perfect match (even whiter than our stock hid in some angle)

axleback

The problem I found was that, our HIDs are not actually white. They have a blue hue that's very hard to match with conventional bulbs. So, even if the fogs are white, they'll still have a hard time matching with our "blue" HIDs. But it sounds like you are very satisfied with your fogs. I'll look into them. Price seems to be quite reasonable too. I'm just awaiting for 03TYPES's email pic to make my final decision.

axleback

bug230

How do those Naxos Bule look...does anyone have any pics of any superwhite bulbs?

bug230

HEY GO TYPE S,

O.K those lights look good no which pair do I get:

893 37.5W Fog Light
894 37.5W Fog Light

If you could reply to the thread, or e-mail me at: Bug230@yahoo.com

thanks for the help

darkalley

I have the Plasmas and after they heat up I think they look almost perfect. I think I paid $110 but I'm not to sure. I bought them in July and they have been great. I know a lot of others had them but I'm not sure if any new ones came out. They are so easy to replace as well.

go-types

those naxos bulbs does come out a little blue in color. btw, i can't see that our stock HIDs have a blue hue though.

go-types

5 watt??? i put those 80 watt naxos bulbs for almost six months & no melting at all. only the bulbs itself burned out.

BlackFire TLS

with the Plasmas, do you always have the fogs on when you have the head lights on? Do you have to worry about heat if turn on all day when drive?

kapsig1

Yep - me too. I just put the 9006 Silverstars in. it IS an improvement compared to the very yellow OEM Stanleys.

I've found that the darker it is, the less blue our OEM heads look. During daylight, they look more blue.

Brad

rockinTLS

Smitty,

I notice by your name that might own a CL-S. The CL-S uses a much lower wattage bulb than the new TL. The 02-03 TL uses a 51W - 55W 9006 bulb.

bug230

Do you have any PICS of those Silverstars?

Thanks

pianoman41

I took a bunch of pictures of my Silverstars (fogs and hi-beams). They're off-line right now but I will post a link to them later this afternoon.

Lew

has anymore put a real HID kit into the fog light housing?

thephantom

Hey Pianoman, how does the silverstars look compare to the HID? Could you send some pic to me via e-mail? steve.ka@sktechnologies.com Thanks!

Smitty02CLs

Shoot, I forgot this was the TL board and not the CL. Anyway, it is a 5 watt in the CL, that's what I have. I guess the TL is 50+ watts, interesting ..you would think they were the same, I guess you guys have real fog lights, I'm jelous

DHB

When we had the search feature, I found pianoman41's awsome comparison pics and that sold me on the Silver STars for my TLS. They aren't a perfect match to be sure but once the HID's have been on for about a minute, they seem pretty close.

Razer

The plasmas are great but if you want the best bang for the buck go with the PIAA superwhites from this site... they are cheap, last forever, and once they warm up look pretty close to our HIDs from about 20 feet away

pianoman41

Welp, my ISP deleted all my files and I didn't save a copy locally so you're all out of luck on seeing the pictures. Maybe someday soon I can retake a few of them.

All I can say is IMHO I think the Silverstars are a very close match for the HIDs. I had my wife drive my car last night, following me as I drove her car. I wanted to see what my lights looked like from another car. Anywhere from 3 car lengths to 40 car lengths away, the fogs and HIDs look identical when you look at the car straight on (or close to it). The only time I could really notice a color difference was when we would turn onto a side street. Since I turned first, I'd be looking back at the side of my car before it turned down the street. From angles greater than, say, 45 degrees off center I could see that the HIDs were whiter/bluer than the Silverstars. But as soon as she made the turn the lights looked the same again.

And more importantly (to me anyway), they perform better than the stock bulbs too. Better illumination all the way around.

thephantom

What is the part number for the SilverStars?

DHB

I completely agree with pianoman41 on the SilverStars.

pianoman41

Our high-beams are 9005 and the fogs are 9006. Those are industry standard replacement numbers. I'm not sure what Osram/Sylvania uses as their own part number, but the two numbers above are prominently displayed on the packaging so you know which ones to get. I think they have an "ST" at the end of the number too, but it works fine. Expect to pay around $50 per pair.

thephantom

Thanks, Pianoman.

kapsig1

Sorry - but haven't made the switch to a digital camera yet. I've had another guy in a TLS top me and ask me how I got them so white though, so I'm not the only one who noticed the diff.

Brad

bug230

Hey Brad,

I took your advice and bought the silverstars I can see a differance but I dont think that they are that great. Mine are still pretty yellow.

But I must say there was some improvemnt over stock.