fighting fish

hoping to get informed.

1. how new has this CT supercharger been out in the market? would it be smart to wait one more cycle to get the bugs out?
2. what engine problems are typical after installation?
3. would wider tires help reduce torque steer?
4. is $6,500 CND a fair price for hardware and installation?
5. besides the supercharger are there other components that need to be added to compensate for extra heat and power?

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thanks

lodoss22

iTrader: (2)

I'd like to know the answers to these as well.

Type S Lady

Don't have mine yet still waiting! But I've been cruises the CL boards and talked one on one with just about every member that has the SC. Ones who have had their SC on for 10k and 31k TL & CL owners and they were all very helpful. At 31k with the SC no one had any complaints and these guys I'm sure were beating on it. After doing research on the net and talking with them I knew it was time to do it. Most recommended getting the Mugen cooling thermostat and fan switch. That was the first thing I did to prepare my car for the SC. It's not like you get a ton of horsepower with the SC, they made it so that it would compliment the exitsting 260hp. So I don't suspect any "engine" issues nor have I heard of any.

Anyway, I highly recommend going over to the CL board to get your answers. As soon as mine arrives I'll be posting my thoughts.

dark inspire

yeah, Type S Lady, this whole board is waitin for u to get urs as well :p

sjdb1

I have OEM tires and it is still easily controllable.
Get the tranny cooler(if AT) go with headers and exhaust with will help complement the S/C.
Looks like you are paying 2k for labor, seems high. Comptech installed mine for much less. Just make sure the install is clean and right.
One warning - Acura will void all powertrain warranty should anything go wrong. I know from firsthand experience.
Good luck, run hot!

Type S Lady

Labor will be $600 for me and OOOPPSS I forgot about the Tranny Cooler.

sjdb1

Type S Lady - are the S/C's on backorder or what?
You've been tortured for too long!
Are you trying to get it locally or is Comptech going to ship
it to you?
Hell, I'll drive over there and get it for you.
But, sometimes anticipation is half the fun.

fighting fish

ok, ok, ok. an intake pulls in air and headers lets it flow out better. so, in reality, the supercharger is just a souped up intake.... if thats the case, better flowing headers (like CT) seem to be a requirement to let the extra air produced from the SC flow out - or else there will be a bottleneck. or are our stock headers flowy enough?

am i correct to assume this?? when will it end?

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

The supercharger is being discontinued by Comptech. Lack of sales is the reason. If you want one, get it now before it's too late.

sjdb1

Who ever said it would end??
My wife eats pot-pies so I can continue to make mods - gotta have priorities!
You really should go with headers and exhaust, it makes a differance in the ability to flow smooth.

gimmesomesugar

Is that before or after PST and GST?

gimmesomesugar

I sure hope that price includes the taxes.


S/C = $3900 USD which is around $5170 CAD.

$5170 + 14.5% taxes = $5920 CAD

That leaves the installer with $580 CAD for labour.

Therefore, that price would be a great deal...provided that it does include all taxes.

If not, buy the s/c online and find a mechanic friend who will do the install for cheap.

That's the route I took...but I bought my s/c used so I saved about $1500 CAD.

fighting fish

appreciate the responses.

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

The main issue is the load on the tranny, not the engine wear-and tear...

Haven't heard anyone w/ issues w/ the TL-S and the charger..

I personally know a couple people w/ Accords that have gone thru two tranny's... they run their cars hard.

sjdb1

My tranny wennt out at 9.8k miles, first problem occured at 3k and Acura could find nothng wrong. Installed my S/C between those times.
On failure Acura said it exceeded the parameters of the tranny.
Warranty voided - I have an 2003 TLS, made 7/02

vipvop

If you were having troubles before you installed the SC you should definitely fight that, tranny repairs don't come cheap.

ou sig

I thought Acura honored Comptech mods as stock...I mean they should void any warranty - other than springs.

sjdb1

I got the district manager involved, I cited the fact the the dealer ship sold Comptech products!
His response was each location was independant and could sell whatever aftermarket products they desired - but that was solely their choice and Acura Corp would not back anything that in their determination could or would violate warrenty.
Great group huh?

fighting fish

sjdb1:

how did they prove that the SC violated your Tranny?
i thought they had to prove the connection (ie. innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around).
or did they just give you some confusing tech explanation.

sjdb1

By saying it exceeded the parameters only designed for the tranny, ie, increased torque, heat generation and more HP than it was designed for.
At first there was no issue, until the damn mechanic told the DM he couldn't check something "cause the blower is in the way"
After that comment, everything was stopped and voided.

ou sig

oh shit I would kick his ass:bigun2:


Just keep at them, hopefully someone will crack and realize the tranny probably would have failed with our without the Comptech. good luck

sjdb1

Oh trust me, this isn't done yet - we are still in "communication"
mode.
I did tell the dealer the mechanics need to do their job and keep their mouths shut.

SCTL-SS

The SC is the way to go, and by no means is just a complement to your current setup. Guys with headers intake etc.. are getting good performance ex: 14.4-5 at the track. With the addtional SC I've been able to get in high 13s(13.95 and best of 13.84). The SC is a great platform this week I'm getting a new pulley for an extra 3.5-4 lbs of boost( maybe 25-30extra hp). There is also a intercooler project for this car and when completed should net 320 HP to the wheels or 375-380 crank HP. The goal is to get car in high 12s maybe mid 12s (may need lower compression and 14-16 lbs. of boost a net of 415-440 HP.

I'll keep you guys posted. This week is extra MAX pulley, rear brakes and thermostat. Then on Friday a dyno and on Sunday Going to the "Battle of the Imports" at Orlando dragway.

sjdb1

SCTL-SS - I have been waiting for the Higher boost pulley, but Comptech has told me it isn't avalible. Where did you find one?
I know about the aftercooler for the S2000, and am waiting anxiously for the TL model.

SCTL-SS

I don't believe that there will be an after cooler from Comptech for the TL, mine on the other hand will be custom built. As for the high boost pulley I'm getting it from Payntech. It will, supposedly, put 3.5-4 lbs of more boost for a total of 8.5-9lbs. but it needs an aftercooler.

sjdb1
You can PM me as my Comptech High Boost pulley will be for sale.

gimmesomesugar

What if you run the Payn hbp without the aftercooler?

TopGum

I have 15K on mine with no trouble. There was some confusion with grounding the ESM in early instruction manuals so double check. Also, disconnecting the IMRC seems to smooth out the power delivery.

To honor the warranty is the dealers decision. My dealer told me they would honor the warranty, SC or not so I did There are plenty of TL P's and S's that blew trannys without any mods. But, check with your dealer just to be safe or find one that will for sure.

I have heard conflicting reports on whether it is to be discontinued or not. This makes it sound like not.supercharger

The tranny cooler on the 5AT is recommended by Comptech so best to take that advice.

To read about the intercooler, check here intercooler here intercooler testing

Also, the Greddy e-Manage looks real promising to wring a little more out of the SC. e-Manage

I contacted Comptech about running a HBP and they told me it would void their warranty on the blower. So, this really may be at your own risk. And for us peeps who can only get 91 octane, forget it.

gimmesomesugar

How many extra horses will be gained from the e-manage?

TopGum

Not sure. you'd have to ask Steve or Brad about that.

sjdb1

GOOD NEWS!!

I just went through 3 weeks of mail and got a letter from Acura.
They agreed to replace the tranny under a "goodwill gesture"
A one time shot with no further warrenty coverage though, if I removed the S/C they would allow full coverage for the lifetime.
I chose at the time to keep it, so I will be getting a big check back soon.
This could be usefull to those of you that get caught in a similar situation.

Type S Lady

Man, I've talked to AJ and Jason at Velocity Resources and it was supposedly on it's way 2 weeks ago. But then Comptech had a problem with a fitment issue with the brackets and this delayed it longer. I called VR on Monday and Jason said they are looking for it to come in on Monday or Tuesday. Then I will have to pick a weekend to leave it in Orlando for a a day or two. Anticipation is very old at this point. This will be 8 weeks by next Wednesday. I was also told they were built to order now, don't know why. But I hope to be enjoying within the month of April.

gimmesomesugar

My guess is because of costs. Why build a whole bunch of superchargers when they are not guaranteed to sell. Better to just build as the orders come.

TopGum

I waited 8 wks for mine also.

Red Rider_RENAMED

Hey Bro, nice setup. I have most of the same mods on my CL-S. Where did you get the high boost pulley ? If you got it from Comptech, did they say it voided their warranty ? We have crap 91 octane here in Cali, so i can't run the HBP unless i get the E-Manage.

SCTL-SS

Red Rider

I'm sure that you're enjoying your ride. But I'm sorry about the 91 gas I went to Daytona a week ago and picked up 100 octane unleaded race fuel in the hopes that I would need it. We installed the Payntech pulley but we had to alter our plans. I'm going to contact Payn on Monday to see if it can be adjusted or redone. I guess I'll just hold on to the gas...it cost $4.40 a gallon.

I'll keep you guys posted. I'll be going later this morning to compete in the battle of the imports...pray that all goes well.

gimmesomesugar

What's the issue with the hbp???

SCTL-SS

We had to use a spacer with the pulley and it didn't work. the pulley is about half as thick as the stock/Comptech unit(where it sits on the alternator). It just needs to be redone to match a little closer the stock dimensions.

TopGum

Comptech will void your blower warranty if you use the hbp. That is what they told me. I am not sure we could even run the hbp with the e-Manage on our 91 octane. 91 just plain sucks

oxidizer2k

will every mod that comptech offers for the TL, how fast will it fun in the 1/4 mile?