stupid question ....
#1
stupid question ....
What the heck is an understeer and oversteer. I am clueless to what these term meant.
------------------
2000 TL w/ Nav Monterey Blue Pearl, Burlwood Shift Knob, Spoiler and Inspire Tail light
------------------
2000 TL w/ Nav Monterey Blue Pearl, Burlwood Shift Knob, Spoiler and Inspire Tail light
#2
Racer
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
From: NYC
Originally posted by carcaze:
What the heck is an understeer and oversteer. I am clueless to what these term meant.
What the heck is an understeer and oversteer. I am clueless to what these term meant.
------------------
96 Lexus LS400
2002 Satin Silver TL-S W/Nav
- Ebony interior wood kit
- Ebony wood/leather steering wheel
- 20% tint
- Boston Acoustic speakers+tweeters
- Kenwood 12" tube
- OEM Body Kit
#3
Originally posted by carcaze:
What the heck is an understeer and oversteer. I am clueless to what these term meant.
What the heck is an understeer and oversteer. I am clueless to what these term meant.
#4
Originally posted by daverman:
I think--generally speaking--understeer is when your car tends to turn less than is commanded, and oversteer is when your car tends to turn more than is commanded.
I think--generally speaking--understeer is when your car tends to turn less than is commanded, and oversteer is when your car tends to turn more than is commanded.
------------------
Red
Gold Grill, Gold Rear emblums, Gold mufflers
Hi-Lo Hydraulics
2 12" inch Kicker Comp VR Subs, 1 9" factory Bose Sub.
#5
Ok, lets pretend you are take a sharp corner at high speed.
When your vehicle is "understeer", you will feel your car pushing into the corner, not turning as precisely as you had hoped. To correct understeer, all you have to do is let off the gas. This is also the same as "tight" in Nascar language.
When your vehicle is "oversteer", you will feel the rear end of the car sliding into the turn. To correct this, let off the gas and turn your steering wheel the same direction as the rearend of your car is sliding too. This is also the same as "loose" in Nascar language.
Most cars came out of factory "understeer", since it is easier to correct.
------------------
Honda-Acura.net TL Forum Moderator.
1999 Silver with factory body kit, spoiler and burlwood instrument cluster and shift knob. Joshua Tree Wood dash kit. Hella air horns. Tint all around. Razo competition pedals. MOMO Sport 18"X7.5" with 225/40ZR Pirelli P7000SS. Weapon-R intake. Comptech springs, exhaust and headers. Inspire Tailights, homemade ram-air and Polarg M-12 front turn signals. Comptech front and rear sway bar. Axxis Metal Master front and rear pads. Mugen front grille. 2 Polk/MOMO 10" subs, Orion Xtreme 500.4 amplifier and Alpine CD changer.
My AcuraTL Homepage
NEW: '01 Acura MDX Silver Premium
Front 35% tinted windows. Running boards. Roof rack. Tailgate deflector. Moonroof visor. Rear mud guards. Razo premium white headlight bulbs. PIAA yellow plasma ion fog bulbs. More to come later......
When your vehicle is "understeer", you will feel your car pushing into the corner, not turning as precisely as you had hoped. To correct understeer, all you have to do is let off the gas. This is also the same as "tight" in Nascar language.
When your vehicle is "oversteer", you will feel the rear end of the car sliding into the turn. To correct this, let off the gas and turn your steering wheel the same direction as the rearend of your car is sliding too. This is also the same as "loose" in Nascar language.
Most cars came out of factory "understeer", since it is easier to correct.
------------------
Honda-Acura.net TL Forum Moderator.
1999 Silver with factory body kit, spoiler and burlwood instrument cluster and shift knob. Joshua Tree Wood dash kit. Hella air horns. Tint all around. Razo competition pedals. MOMO Sport 18"X7.5" with 225/40ZR Pirelli P7000SS. Weapon-R intake. Comptech springs, exhaust and headers. Inspire Tailights, homemade ram-air and Polarg M-12 front turn signals. Comptech front and rear sway bar. Axxis Metal Master front and rear pads. Mugen front grille. 2 Polk/MOMO 10" subs, Orion Xtreme 500.4 amplifier and Alpine CD changer.
My AcuraTL Homepage
NEW: '01 Acura MDX Silver Premium
Front 35% tinted windows. Running boards. Roof rack. Tailgate deflector. Moonroof visor. Rear mud guards. Razo premium white headlight bulbs. PIAA yellow plasma ion fog bulbs. More to come later......
#7
Originally posted by AcuraTL:
Ok, lets pretend you are take a sharp corner at high speed.
When your vehicle is "oversteer", you will feel the rear end of the car sliding into the turn. [...]
Most cars came out of factory "understeer", since it is easier to correct.
Ok, lets pretend you are take a sharp corner at high speed.
When your vehicle is "oversteer", you will feel the rear end of the car sliding into the turn. [...]
Most cars came out of factory "understeer", since it is easier to correct.
I always thought that had something to do with rear-wheel drive (since somehow these car chases are always in big heavy Buicks).
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[This message has been edited by genghis on June 13, 2001 @ ]</font>
Trending Topics
#8
Ahh- but loose is faster
------------------
Wayne Gruen
Service Manager
Park Ave Acura
*** The opinions expressed above are my own. I in no way speak for American Honda or Acura but strictly for myself ***
2002 TL-S Black/Black
Factory Body Kit, Factory Spoiler, Comptech Springs, Sways, Headers, Exhaust, Xephyr CAI
Tuning by Jens...
------------------
Wayne Gruen
Service Manager
Park Ave Acura
*** The opinions expressed above are my own. I in no way speak for American Honda or Acura but strictly for myself ***
2002 TL-S Black/Black
Factory Body Kit, Factory Spoiler, Comptech Springs, Sways, Headers, Exhaust, Xephyr CAI
Tuning by Jens...
#10
Unbelievable. Be careful guys and gals. The solutions you are stating apply to RWD vehicles during understeer and oversteer. For FWD vehicles during understeer, you want to power thru the turn with a slight brake - don't lift your foot from the accelerator or you'll just keep on sliding in the same direction - usually off the road. Do your own research! IMO
#12
Do your own research and thinking. It seems to fuel alot of controversy. Just make sure they are talking about FWD not RWD. Try
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fwd.html
http://www.rallyracingnews.com/lfb.html
there are lots of articles to back up the theory. Just search them out and make up your own mind since it's your life and car. Try out both theories in a parking lot next time it's wet out in your area. In fact, everybody should be pushing their cars to the limits to learn about their handling capabilities and their own driving skills. IMO
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fwd.html
http://www.rallyracingnews.com/lfb.html
there are lots of articles to back up the theory. Just search them out and make up your own mind since it's your life and car. Try out both theories in a parking lot next time it's wet out in your area. In fact, everybody should be pushing their cars to the limits to learn about their handling capabilities and their own driving skills. IMO
#13
You are also more likely to understeer in a front wheel drive car, and oversteer in a rear wheel drive car...Just like Acura-TL said:
If you're pushing into a turn, and you turn the wheel to go into the turn and the car's still going straight, that's understeer..
If you push in or out of a turn and the rear tires break loose, that's oversteer
Ed
------------------
Acura-TL.com - Forum Moderator
'66 Mustang Fastback
'99 Mazda Miata
'99 Acura TL Satin Silver/Ebony, Non/Nav, Comptech Springs and Sways, CL Type S wheels wrapped with 225/45/17 Dunlop SP9000's, Comptech Air Filter Element, Inspire Tails, AEM Brake Pads all around, Comptech Axle Back Exhaust, Gutter Guard Grille, "Guy Smiley" doll on the dash as my Co-driver...
Pics of my TL
Pics of my Miata! Wadya think?
If you're pushing into a turn, and you turn the wheel to go into the turn and the car's still going straight, that's understeer..
If you push in or out of a turn and the rear tires break loose, that's oversteer
Ed
------------------
Acura-TL.com - Forum Moderator
'66 Mustang Fastback
'99 Mazda Miata
'99 Acura TL Satin Silver/Ebony, Non/Nav, Comptech Springs and Sways, CL Type S wheels wrapped with 225/45/17 Dunlop SP9000's, Comptech Air Filter Element, Inspire Tails, AEM Brake Pads all around, Comptech Axle Back Exhaust, Gutter Guard Grille, "Guy Smiley" doll on the dash as my Co-driver...
Pics of my TL
Pics of my Miata! Wadya think?
#15
Originally posted by BlackShadow:
Just take corners at 10 mph and you will be fine.
Just take corners at 10 mph and you will be fine.
------------------
2000 3.2TL Firepepper red w/o nav
stock spoiler
Arospeed SRI
Comptech springs
Custom front Grill
Bosch 4+ platinum spark plug
25% Tint/Mud guards/
acura-tl.com sticker at front windshield
#17
Well, this topic can go on and on. I am currently studying a book that talk about all the accleration, handling and stuff about cars. It gives you all the formula to actually calculate those stuff...
Anyhow, with our TL, you can still get oversteer. But DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME!!! try it at AutoX or a track. If you push your car close to the limit, and you lift the gas. Then you will get oversteer, because you shift the weight forward.
BTW, been there done that, so I am sure you can make it happen. But honestly, I totally lost the control of my car and spun 180'
Oh and of course if you use the E-brake, you will get oversteer, too. Cuz it lock up the rear wheels.
Anyhow, with our TL, you can still get oversteer. But DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME!!! try it at AutoX or a track. If you push your car close to the limit, and you lift the gas. Then you will get oversteer, because you shift the weight forward.
BTW, been there done that, so I am sure you can make it happen. But honestly, I totally lost the control of my car and spun 180'
Oh and of course if you use the E-brake, you will get oversteer, too. Cuz it lock up the rear wheels.
#18
Pro
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 738
Likes: 0
From: Northern New Jersey
In a '56 Olds 88 (rolling along at 110 or so), I hit an icy conditon over the "Garoil" sign (really Piermont, NY), a long time ago. The car spun 720 degrees across the bridge (and stalled). After jump-starting the vehicle, we only spun out a few more times on 9W Southbound, but never more than 360 degrees! What the Hell is a spin-out???
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[This message has been edited by Darla on June 14, 2001 @ ]</font>
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[This message has been edited by Darla on June 14, 2001 @ ]</font>
#19
Well, the term spin-out can be confusing. In my book if your car starts to "spin", it means that you are getting under/oversteer. If you totally lost control of the car and spin out of the road, then that is spin-out.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DerrickW
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
11-15-2015 06:52 PM
SinCityTLX
5G TLX (2015-2020)
20
10-07-2015 02:24 PM