hondakid23

hey guys quick question i wanted to seafoam my tl.. i know that you have to put 1 can in your gas tank when the gas is 1/4.. and i know you can pour about 8 oz in your vac hose..but if i dont put it in my crankcase do i still need to do a oil change after the treatment thanks

mugenspire

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You can do 1 full can in your vac port for max effect.

Also you DO NOT need to change your oil if you do not put it in your crankcase because you are only putting it in your gas tank and vac port. Hope that helps.

Mr. Maker

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mugenspire

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Also, it would be better to pour in your gas tank when its a little under half tank for the best effects and cleaning. Seafoam says 2oz per gallon. 1 can is 16oz so half tank on car is about 8 gal hence the full can in half tank of gas. As opposed to seafoaming at 1/4 tank.

Make sure you do the WHOLE can in the vac port as well and NOT 8oz. Thats only half the can and it wont yield the same results.

Just want to make sure you get your moneys worth because i did mine wrong the first time, at least with the gas tank.

Flipster23

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Tom will be here soon

plus im pretty sure its covered on the 1239354 seafoam threads

mugenspire

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^ exactly I'm just waiting for him to chime in on whatever I didn't cover haha.

hondakid23

thanks guys appreciate the feed back

01tl4tl

go back and read the diy that says `seafoam for 03`
any info from 2008 is bogus and should be ignored

Use the current info- Master vac port!!!, sip sip not pour into vac line, or
better is deep creep thru vac port at TB
also read tech info www.seafoamsales.com

01tl4tl

for vac port- you DONT need the whole can,,
in fact, when done correctly it wont keep running by 3/4 of the can in!!
It works instantly thru vac port

we need to work on your technique free~

mugenspire

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Ahhh excuse my lack of knowledge! Thanks for the clarification! I was pretty close though....lol

01tl4tl

it goes back to the saturation level of seafoam to gas exceeding 50/50 and it simply wont run,,sounds like its going to lose a valve,,smoke from tailpipes
thats plenty!

01tl4tl

time for another 916 area ziner meet and seafoam class

last one made for some impressive photos,,looked like rear wheel drive burnouts!

fsttyms1

Why not use the whole can? Get it into the engine BEFORE the throttlebody and not thru a vaccination port that way it cleans the th as well. Using a vac port.doesnt clean the tb. There is no harm using a full can

Aman

FWIW CRC makes a dedicated throttle body cleaner as well if you do use the vac port for a Seafoam treatment.

01tl4tl

we dont have to use special TB cleaner, carb cleaner is ok for the TL system
special stuff is for cars with a heating wire inside throat and is safer for plastic bits

kris,,I cant get a full can in! always end up at heavy smoke and max saturation
level in the plenums-(also use 2000rpm blast a few times) then let it percolate 15 minutes..

plus my DC cans have been running out of propellant 4oz from empty, I see they lowered the total oz on the `new` can design--hope that fixes it,,otherwise its going to be the 1 gal garden sprayer filled with 'foam!! my newest homemade right tool for the job

according to the seafoam tech guy Jim- it works so fast/instantly thru vac port that more than 1/2 can is wasted money..same guy says 2x gas treatments will do more than vac method- injectors and fuel systems not cleaned thru vac-

except: TB is always a stand alone item for cleaning-for purposes of this discussion

I totally agree with you: do some thru the TB throat itself-
get both sides of the air plate and especially the edge-it gets all that pcv glug shot at it.

-deep creep= seafoam aerosol -or make a squirt bottle with seafoam and spray directly thru throat
Doing it all that way will allow more product--I have experienced that
seafoam/dc lubes the throttle air plate hinge pin too!!

maybe Im old and cheap, generally put the rest in the gas or the bike or the mower gas or one of the kids drops by just at the right time~~~like they can smell free instant tune up while visiting their mom

Karanx7

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^ If you make any homemade spray or whatever, MAKE SURE there is no water left over!

01tl4tl

what.. you dont like sudden high compression by non-flammables introduced to the combustion area???,,
what a bummer you are at the party

hondakid23

so basically its kind of like how i used to do it to my civic while the cars running pour about half of the seafoam slowly into the vac and the car will stall out by the time im finished... let it sit for about 10 mins and then take it for a joy ride

hondakid23

the vac hose is the brake booster line right..? sorry noobie

01tl4tl

Negative on the brake booster line--ours has a limiter or some type valve in the line

if you look at the diy you will find a `master vac port` right at the TB with a metal tube coming from the tb
and you should shoot some thru the tb throat, and clean air plate off while engine off
deep creep /seafoam spray is way easier to control, especially for noobs

totaledTL

Vaccination port, lol .... it's getting a shot.

Special Ed

fsttyms1

Didnt catch that. Stupid predictive text on the phone.

fsttyms1

Homedepot has it the cheapest

jperdoch

wow,that is cheap !!

mugenspire

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What the fuhhhhhh! Im goin there next time i buy it....and im robbin their shelves clean lol

yoon

i think i read in one of the thread that cleaning dose is 2x in the gas tank. is it the same for the vac line?

i did the vac line and the gas tank once last night. waiting to fill up gas again so i can do the tank one more time. should i do the vac line as well, if I didn't go through the tb?

Willie3.5

I've already looked for it here in Orlando, FL and they don't carry it! Sucks. That is a great price for what it is normally worth.

01tl4tl

finest- call seafoam for locations!

yoon- again thru the gas tank @ 1 can to 8 gal/just under half tank, and you are good for a year.
vac port once is fine along with gas tank

You also want to manually clean at least the air plate inside the throat of the TB where the air filter connector tube goes

UNCatTech

Can someone direct me to a picture or a description of the vaccum hose that I am suppose to use?

Tyrone503

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...g25692zm5.jpg/

There ya go

01tl4tl

you remove that hose and a metal nipple will be exposed
the seafoam goes into the metal nipple

please read the diy carefully- how much you apply and what rpms to use for different amounts are important
also read www.seafoamsales.com tech parts
you can also shoot it thru the TB throat so it cleans the air plate in there
can use in a spray bottle for that if desired

warmup drive before, cooking time of 10-15 minutes after product added
then startup after is important, and how you drive it for the next several minutes
makes the big diff in how well it works

add 1 can to half a tank of gas to get the system clean there

CAB NY

been doing it for a few years now is there a problem doing it twice a year or just not necessary

01tl4tl

seafoam suggest do the gas again midyear as maitenance--

do the manifold vac or two tanks of gas- once a year to keep it all right

no harm in keeping everything clean as possible!!

dont forget the TB air plate inside the TB throat

niju321

i do not know how easy it is to access the interior of the TB to get at the air plate. would it be much less effective to just open up the air filter box and spray in there with engine running? it still has to hit the plate...

Karanx7

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If you can take off the air filter box, you can take out the intake piping. It'll take you about ~5 minutes max:

2 minutes looking at it to figure it out
3 minutes yanking it off the TB

01tl4tl

some have to use a toothbrush!! and heavy application of carb cleaner or deep creep to the plate- get both sides and the edges

NO,, cleaning will not happen just by spraying into snorkel tube, and may not be great for the tubes material

remove top engine cover for access to TB hose clamp
Remove the air filter box top cover with snorkel tube,
remove atached lines from clips
loosen hose clamp at TB, remove snorkel and box top,, set aside
You are now looking direct at the air plate!

spray- scrub-wipe up residue, spray more- scrub- wipe up residue
Use throttle control to open the plate and get backside- get edges good to improve idle
Engine will run like shiteza at startup --carb cleaner sitting on the manifold side after all the spraying~ It will self clear in a minute or 2

the crankcase vent system pumps oily crud at this plate all the time
cleaning will always make things better, smoother
Lube throttle return springs too
Clean pcv valve while you are at it

thelastaspec

Question: Oil getting changed soon, would it be a good idea to put some seafoam in the oil with say a week before i get it changed to counteract sludge ect?

Oil seems darker prob due to my short distance driving routine and the fact i used techron fuel system cleaner this past year on two occasions (prob cleaned up some carbon deposits).

01tl4tl

its a great idea to add 1/2 can seafoam to the oil about 30-50 miles/minutes before the next change
a drive of 30 minutes solid or more is very helpful but anything helps
I use vtec a few times to get cleaner run thru its parts

make sure oil is warm from 15 minute freeway warmup before change
not cold- the crud gets solid again and doesnt drain~

you oil isnt getting dirty from seafoam or techron in gas, that cleans fuel and combustion chambers and goes out the exhaust
A very minor amount gets in the oil due to compression blowby but it doesnt count

your oil is getting dirty faster due to your short trips

thelastaspec

awesome. i had to climb a steep steep hill as well (minute drive up) not too long into the drive every day this past year...