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Old 07-28-2009, 12:18 PM
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totaledTL -- noticeable power/response improvement. I'm just not going to put in my oil again. I also did the EGR port cleaning shortly after seafoaming since I was installing a thermal block on intake. The ports have very few deposits and this was at 100K. I had just finished cleaning the EGR ports on the honda with 150K (no seafoam) and the ports were 80%+ plugged. So, like I said, I like it in the gas.
I have been adding it to my oil for 310k now on regular intervals for cleaning and not one have i ever had a issue with leaking. I have a oil pan at home with the gasket on it. I can try to wipe it off to prove to you that it want your problem. It was most likely a issue to begin with and the seafoam ate the gunk keeping it from leaking and not eating the gasket.
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Gee Kris- it was only 2 slightly loose pan bolts next to each other where the oil leak occured

Has anyone noticed the part in the `inspection during service` part of owner book-
ck and tighten all bolts as needed
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kdawg- its in numerous post but didn't make it on the seafoam diy

remove the rubber snout from air filter box to TB inlet
couple of hose clamps and stuff to remove to do it
Now you have total access to a 2"-3" round plate inside the TB
It wil have black crud on it- spray carb cleaner or Deep Creep at it, use toothbrush if necessary- spray more. Open with mechanical throttle assembly where the cables are,
spray back and edges good- use brush if needed
Wipe up runoff, spray more until clean
Put back together- tighten clamps- spray wd or deep creep on throttle cable springs
Start engine, will run funny a minute as the cleaner gets burned thru then fine
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
kdawg- its in numerous post but didn't make it on the seafoam diy

remove the rubber snout from air filter box to TB inlet
couple of hose clamps and stuff to remove to do it
Now you have total access to a 2"-3" round plate inside the TB
It wil have black crud on it- spray carb cleaner or Deep Creep at it, use toothbrush if necessary- spray more. Open with mechanical throttle assembly where the cables are,
spray back and edges good- use brush if needed
Wipe up runoff, spray more until clean
Put back together- tighten clamps- spray wd or deep creep on throttle cable springs
Start engine, will run funny a minute as the cleaner gets burned thru then fine
i have a buddy with a 07 altima and he said he messed up the TB plate by pushing it open and the dealership charged him couple hundred to get it fixed... does that happpen with our car too??
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if he had a fly by wire TB then he should have turned the key to on then off causing an opening and closing of the plate in a self test- you cant manually open those!!

On gen2 TL with a `cable from pedal to TB operated throttle` there is no problem whatsoever

Who knows more about a TL- azine or your buddy with a different brand
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
if he had a fly by wire TB then he should have turned the key to on then off causing an opening and closing of the plate in a self test- you cant manually open those!!

On gen2 TL with a `cable from pedal to TB operated throttle` there is no problem whatsoever

Who knows more about a TL- azine or your buddy with a different brand
of course azine the best

and his altima has motorized throttle theres no wire i think thats why it probably got messed up
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"Motorized throttle" would have to be fly by wire system. "Wire" is just a term used to mean it's electrically controlled not mechanically controlled by a cable linked to the pedal.
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my cars giving really bad gas mileage even though i did the sea foam last week i filled a full tank the other day and i did about 89 KM!! and im almost at half tank i think it might be cus of having the a/c on full blast

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hows the cabin air filter-replaced withing last 12 months?
if thats dirty it takes more electricty to get air thru and will reduce mileage
Anything electrical draw cause more load from the alternator, less mileage
especially cabin fan on 5- thats 20 amp draw

How much seafoam into how much gas- and 91 octane?
you did vac and gas a week ago?

suggested cleaning dose is 1 can to just under 1/2 tank and run down past the low fuel light, Once you add gas its diluted too weak
2 oz per gal is cleaning

While seafoam is working thru the gas- there may be a drop in mileage followed by an increase in smoothness and power- mileage comes up 1-2mpg on average
Its cleaning the upper stuff and the pistons from 1 place- thru the vac port is the blaster method, gas tank takes longer but gets the injectors too
If its a severe drop it may have got something big loose and moving thru

Over 70k miles is ready for new plugs and that will help even more mpg

Did you clean the TB plate and make sure the battery cables are clean and tight- no ugly growing from the terminals
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
hows the cabin air filter-replaced withing last 12 months?
if thats dirty it takes more electricty to get air thru and will reduce mileage
Anything electrical draw cause more load from the alternator, less mileage
especially cabin fan on 5- thats 20 amp draw

How much seafoam into how much gas- and 91 octane?
you did vac and gas a week ago?

suggested cleaning dose is 1 can to just under 1/2 tank and run down past the low fuel light, Once you add gas its diluted too weak
2 oz per gal is cleaning

While seafoam is working thru the gas- there may be a drop in mileage followed by an increase in smoothness and power- mileage comes up 1-2mpg on average
Its cleaning the upper stuff and the pistons from 1 place- thru the vac port is the blaster method, gas tank takes longer but gets the injectors too
If its a severe drop it may have got something big loose and moving thru

Over 70k miles is ready for new plugs and that will help even more mpg

Did you clean the TB plate and make sure the battery cables are clean and tight- no ugly growing from the terminals

never replaced the cabin filter and i bought the car last year from acura.
i didnt put sea foam in the tank i put red line si in a full tank of gas
im using 92 octane currently
i got around 120 000KM on the car
and i was thinking of changing spark plugs after the second run of seafoam in about 3 weeks because this was my first time using sea foam ever

i didnt clean the TB plate yet kinda freaked out on opening up the TB
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you dont open the TB internally- you remove the rubber tube from the air filter box to the TB inlet
Its very simple to do, just make sure the hose clamps are tight when done

So to be clear- a week ago you foamed the vac port with 1 can or most of 1 can into vac port at TB- removed engine cover to do the job?
or how did you do it? how much product
I forgot you used redline in the gas- same effect in gas as seafoam but it too needs to be used at max allowable dose of 1 bottle to 1/2 tank for best results
Stronger dose means faster harder cleaning
At full tank you are on maitenance dose-
try again with 1/2 tank and full bottle
Redlines always done well for me
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change the cabin air filter- it will be dirty and clogged
20 min DIY- 20 dollar filters
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
you dont open the TB internally- you remove the rubber tube from the air filter box to the TB inlet
Its very simple to do, just make sure the hose clamps are tight when done

So to be clear- a week ago you foamed the vac port with 1 can or most of 1 can into vac port at TB- removed engine cover to do the job?
or how did you do it? how much product
I forgot you used redline in the gas- same effect in gas as seafoam but it too needs to be used at max allowable dose of 1 bottle to 1/2 tank for best results
Stronger dose means faster harder cleaning
At full tank you are on maitenance dose-
try again with 1/2 tank and full bottle
Redlines always done well for me
yeah i followed the DIY took off the engine cover and put seafoam thru the vacuum line put it thru nice and slowly
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
change the cabin air filter- it will be dirty and clogged
20 min DIY- 20 dollar filters
you keep saying to put some dielectric grease on the blower motor contacts so they don't burn out....i searched and couldn't find a diy on that...how do i get the thing out?
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follow the cabin filter replacement DIY, when you get the filters holder out- now look to the right at the blower motor
remove the 2-4 bolts/screws holding the plate the blower motor sits on- connector on back side of plate
Easy!
You may be able to access it without glovebox removal- look under dash for access

Dielectric grease $1 pack at part store counter is enough for this job
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It's doubtful dielectric grease would prevent the contacts from melting. It's meant to prevent corrosion by preventing water from entering the connector.
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yes it does that- but it also acts as a coolant for the contact- where there is increased resistance from a connector causing more heat

Had to replace a melted main wire on my bike- instructions explained why to use the special grease inside the new connectors, and all push together multi wire connectors like it
The grease helps carry away heat from the unit
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I can somewhat see your point, but, if there's significant heat generated at a connector to begin with that indicates there's probably too much resistance present (a poor connection- corrosion, too little surface area contact for the amount of current draw, etc.)
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I agree- and most cars have pretty cheap electrical systems~
So why not spend a dollar now to save 50 later

The stator 3 wire on my Honda 1100 bike was a cheap connetor with full amps load thru it. replacement kit/ TSB bulletin issued in 1989! for all honda 3 wire atv-bikes-other equipment= replace this wire to prevent FIRE
Kit had connector with new 10 inch leads on each end to splice in (which raises resistance)
and specifically says to FILL the connector with dielectric- it will push out whats excess

2 friends with similar bikes found partial burning on bottem, hidden side, of connector- under the seat!! extra fun~

Im guessing acura used these same cheap plastic connectors with too short a wire on many things it made

Better safe than smoke from under the dash- its happened to enough to be of concern- and acura making a new longer lead wire setup (under 20 $) means strain was an issue too and could pull connector loose-angle--short---
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I believe its more an issue for the `full blast` fan users than the auto mode, where fan goes on level 2-3 most of the time,
less draw is less heat thru the wire
Those wires get HOT when run at full amps

Oddly- since this was a seafoam thread- Deep Creep (seafoam aerosol) is excellent for spraying into contacts to clear moisture and leave behind a protective non-flammable oil that works as a dielectric in keeping moisture out and preventing corrosion

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I once had a Jeep that smoked the fuse connection for the heater/AC fan when it was running on high so yeah, I agree, lots of current flowing when you use high fan setting.
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i just reset the ecu yesterday because ive never ever reset the ecu since i bought the car. i didnt reset even after putting the cold air intake or after doing the coolant throttle bypass or seafoam... but now since i did it my car drives way better then before.
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