FZ427

I just read on Car and Driver the $35k comparo and they have the TL-S 0-60 in 7.6 sec. and the 1/4 in 16.0.
In Motor Trend they have the TL-S 0-60 in 6.3 and 1/4 in 14.7.

asloudasitgets

those are very different numbers. someone is making a big mistake. i think motor trnd has the right numbers.

WiLLs TypE S

Well, I don't really know what to say. Because every freakin magazine says something different. But I believe the TYpe S shouldnt be that slow that goes 0-60 in 7 seconds and I'm not that sure that it will go 0-60 in 6.3 seconds. There is only one way to find out, test it yourself. But I believe the TYpe S should give u around low-mid 6.0 seconds from 0-60. and the 1/4 mile should be mid-high 14 seconds.

Beiruty

CAI+sparkplugs+ 235/40/18 okay rims... 14.6s @ 96 MPH and that is an Auto.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

From what I've read on here and the slips I've seen you should see the 1/4 mile in low 15's or so. There are a couple of cars that have broken into the high 14's stock.... but those are exceptions. Most are around 15.1-15.4 or so.

0-60 is tough to measure accurately.... low to mid 6's is about right....

Your best bet is to do what WiLLS Type S said and test it yourself. Had out to a track and make some runs... that will tell you what your specific car is capable of. It may be faster or slower then someone else's... even the magazine cars....

FLAcuraTLS

I am baffled as well. These are totally different numbers, and I know that even two identical cars are not the same, but can there be such a discrepancy in performance? I mean 6.3 and 7.6, we're talking over a second difference. I can't believe that both these cars were Type S's and that they were tested properly, because if they did, then it's ridiculous that one Type S can do 6.3 and another only does 7.6 regardless of weather, testing conditions, etc. I could understand a slight difference, anything around half a sec, but 1.3 second difference...something very fishy going on. That or the testers at C&D are the fattest human beings on earth and the driver just slowed the poor Type S down too much with weight. oh well, guess i will just have to take my baby to the track real soon to end all debates.

2K2SilverTL-S

The TL-S that Car and Driver recently tested most certainly had a broken actuator. Back last year, Car and Driver got a 2002 TL-S to 60 in 6.2 sec and the quater mile in 14.8 sec. In reality, the TL-S is DEFINITELY a low to mid 0-60 sec car, and with a good driver, a high 14 sec car.

RUF87

Folks, don't forget environmental variations. Temps, track surface, driver weights, etc. And different launching techniques. I've even heard that some test it under full load, meaning gas.

That on top of differences between each car.

Besides, look at the 330i, it was almost a sub 6-sec car in one test, but now just another 7+ second sedan. So everyone's times were worse.

Anyway, I'm not worried. I've beaten a few 330i and 330ci already.

RUF

asloudasitgets

get some mugen stickers youll run low 12's trust me. my tls runs 12 flat cause i have a combination of stickers.

brian-tls

I read the article on-line which didn't seem to include specs. The 0-60 on the TLS is off no doubt. The BMW will be slower if it had those sluggish run flat tires on it. Get the sport package with the 330i and you loose them - and I'm sorry to say your TLS will not "beat" it. My 330i Sport automatic runs pretty much equal with TLS through 0-60, and pulls away at 0-100 and 1/4mile.

I was glad to see the TLS beat out the G35 - now that the hype about the G35 has died down, that's the 2nd comparo recently that ranked in that manner, edmunds was the other I think. It is the better car and the best FWD car. I can't comment on the Audi - I haven't driven one in years - but it seems to get a lot more credit for looks (in and out) then drivability.

snapple

I'm goin with motor trend.

Ray_Khan

The new chasis on the A4 is heavier than the old one. The new sport suspension is really good though. Handling wise, the Audi beats the TLS. Although the materials are nice, I'm not crazy about the new A4 interior, the old one is better. As far as power goes, the new engine is ok, nothign special. THe car got heavier and the hp went up accordingly. The multitronic transmission is pretty cool. If you want an Audi, you want a quattro. Right now only FWD Audis have the multitronic. The quattro 6 speed version of the Audi isn't quite as fast as a TLS. There will be a multitronic quattro car soon. Either way, a chipped 1.8T is my preference over the Audi 6 cyl. It's a much different, and less refined beast, but more my style. I thnk what helped the Audi in the last comparo was the handling. It can't quite handle like a 330 sport sicne the BMW has much better weigh distribution and is lighter, but it handles better than the TLS.

brian-tls

That sounds about right on the audi. I think I would've checked them out if the were RWD. Everything about them just seems like it should be. then that would be a comparison. Maybe one of these mags will compare AWD versions of BMW and Audi - that would be interesting.

TedV

I ran my TL-S recently for the first time and on the first run got a 15.2 @ 92mph. I turned off the VSA, ran about 34 lbs of air in the front and back tires, and manually shifted from 1-2-3. I launched at about 1000 - 1300 rpm's. I also bumped the limiter on the 1-2 shift and slipped past third a little and had to come back into it.

I saw a 2003 CL-S auto there and it ran about the same times as I did. He told me to turn off VSA and use SS. He had just used D5 and was getting 15.2's. He said when he uses SS he hits high 14.9's.

I personally think I can get my car into the 14.9's too stock with more racing experience and trying different techniques of launching and shifting, etc. Also, I was running on old oil that needed to be changed.

I think I can pick up those two tenths and maybe a mph or more. Then once I get to a 14.9 stock then I will add a CAI and see what happens. And maybe a header after that. If I could get my car into a consistent 14.4's at 95 + mph I would be happy for a sports sedan of its nature/stature.

Just my 2 cents...

Blazin TL

i've had many different experiences, and i have a tl-p, 0-80mph tied with a new 330ci, sport pkg, auto, but it always pulled half a car from 80mph...

tl-s with equal drivers would have no problem with a 330ci...

brian-tls

This board is full of people "beating" all types of cars - oddly not too many people post when they loose. But you are entitled to your opinion - but seeing as I own both and have put them against each other - the TLS and 330i run almost equal till 80. That's a straight run - if there is even a minor curve in the road -forget it the 330i is gone.

I use to own a TLP and I can't imagine what would have to happen for it to hang with my 330i. Maybe you raced in the snow?

Blazin TL

no, see i lost, but it took, until 80mph, i gate shift all three times, it's my roommates cars, i had three chances, his is also a auto, kept up till 80 on all three runs, just minor differences in who has a foot or so lead from 0-80mph, but he always pulled away from 80, i'm sure the type s would do better...

Blazin TL

he also, let me drive the car, once, i'm not going to lie, the car is nicer than the TL, it's just seems more luxurious, all the things that light up inside, plus he had titanium gauges, besides from no torque steer and oppsite tiptronic* haha, (i know what it's called, i shopped for 330ci before i bought my TL), it didn't seem any faster...just my experience...