city001

well....we basically went back to back during the entire 3.5 hr trip to vegas...from LA...

I lead most of the time.... we were trying to over take each other..
I had better lane switchin skills

that car is fast...anyone know the stats on it??

In 3rd gear i won't lose..but with 4th.... His still gets a punch..but my car...just.... won't budge!!!
guess he has more torque on that thing :I

I lose to him during uphills...
other wise... it was pretty much even...

city

Turboara

hahahahaha

good ol american "specially tuned" V8 can hardly get ahead of a V6 luxury sedan....

hahahahaha

mawaru

lol... you're kidding right?

The Saleen should be able tear the TL a new a**hole. The Saleen is WAY faster than the TL. It's not even comparable.

Severin

Maybe it was a rebadged 4-cylinder... LOL

Acura3200

no way in hell you'd win

it was a rebadge or he wasn't racing.

2001AudiS4

I found these numbers. They are the most conservative numbers I have ever seen for a Saleen. So if this is the slowest Saleen, you car stock would still not be able to keep up, in any gear. Unless of course he wasn't trying. I'm banking on a rebadged GT as well. (I doubt you could keep up with a stock GT either). I am not flaming you, just pointing out that the Mustang is a performance car. I raced against what appeared to be a stock GT in my S4 and the Mustang was definitely faster.

Model - Saleen S-281 Coupe 14.1 / 98

1/4 Mile (second)/MPH - 14.1
MPH (second) - 0-60 - 5.2

Lat. Accel. - .93g
Braking FT. 60-0 MPH - 109
Resale Value - HIGH
M.S.R.P* - $ 32,999

I also found some numbers on Supercars.net.

<a href="http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Ford%20Saleen@$Mustang%20S-281.html">Mustang Saleen</a>

Acura3200

those numbers are REALLY high for a saleen, these are the numbers of a Mustang Cobra

0-60 - 4.8
1/4 mile - 13.5
top speed - 148

And Saleens are faster than Cobra's

Here are the #'s for a stock Mustang GT

0-60 - 6.0
1/4 mile - 14.7
top speed - 139

You'd have trouble hanging with a GT, you'd lose big to a Cobra and lose by even more to a real Saleen.

SL1200MK4

How do you know it's a saleen? because of the body kit?

city001

maybe he was scared of the word tl TYPE S
hahaha

city

city001

Would we stand a chance if we added supercharger, manual tranny upgrade, H/I/E, MMI & II?

city

2001AudiS4

Now that I doubt.

blklegend

Hey 2001AudiS4, what kind of numbers are does the S4 run? I am thinking of getting one!

2001AudiS4

Well stock the 1/4 mile is 14 seconds. 0-60 is 5.5 seconds. Both of course are with 6 spd manual. The auto with sport shift is about a half second slower on the 1/4 and i believe as much as a second slower on the 0-60. Don't qoute me on the auto though, i am not sure. Of couse to get those numbers you do have to launch pretty hard. It is a nice car though. No doubt about that.

The current model S4 is no longer being produced. Some dealers may have some, but the new ones won't be out until late 2003. No word on what kind of power they will be producing.

catcherr

Not 14 flat, more like 14.5 in the 1/4. With a chip and exhaust system they produce over 300hp. Very quick and fun.
www.rmrautosport.com

stan kiang

I hate to tell you but if that was a real Saleen and he was serious about racing you, you would have got annihilated. Those things are soooo fast our TLs don't stand a chance in hell, no matter what you have on it. My buddy has a 2000 Cobra and last time we were fooling around, he made me look like I was in reverse. Trust me, you don't want to f**k with one of those.

j83

i think he wasnt even trying...

city001

What if with the Supercharger...the new manual tranny conversion from the CL type S, headers,intake, exhaust, MMI and II.....any chance then???

city

Wampum

Last time I checked there were several different model Saleen Mustangs available.

There are a few different models of Saleen Mustangs, from mild modded to wild supercharged beasts.

Like the SR Coupe:
351 cid (5.8L) Saleen Centrifugal Supercharged OHV 90 degree V-8
Horsepower - 505 @ 5400 / Torque - 500 ft. lbs. @ 3500
Compression ratio 8.2:1 / Bore and stroke - 4.00" x 3.50"

SALEEN SR 11.8/124.0
0-60:4.0
Lateral G: 1.09g
Braking 60-0: 98
Price:$158,000

LOL but I am sure it was not one of these.

stan kiang

I think you might still have your work cut out for you. Those things have serious juice and I mean really serious. I was trying my hardest, just mashing on the gas as hard as I could, and I really felt like I was in reverse. Those things have so much torque they just pull away from you at any speed. It's unbelieveable. I hate to be a bandwagon junkie but that thing was hella fast. I can assure you one thing, your tint, camber kit, and other mods won't help you much against that thing.

city001

haha..ya... now if it was a m3... or amg c32 would i stand a chance?

city

stan kiang

Now you're talking...if you had a C36 or a new M3, I think you would give a Saleen a run for the money. I know for sure you would be able to hang or beat an S281 but when you get up to the S351 and the supercharged version, then you may have to step up to a Ferrari, Porsche Turbo or Lamborghini.

city001

s351 supercharged..how much is that car???? O_o

stan kiang

It looks like the S281 is like $33K base, there's an S281 Supercharged which is $60K base, and an S351 Supercharged is about $160K base. Doesn't look like they have an unsupercharged S351 anymore and the supercharged one doesn't even look like mustang anymore.
www.saleen.com

my2sense

why do you keep proposing these hypothetical situations (if I had a SC, MMII, RES, etc...) ?

If you really wanted to hang with performance cars like M3s, Mootangs, or whatever the hell else, you should have purchased a real performance car (read: not a TL). :o

city001

THE THING IS I LUV MY TL style!!!

city

the one I raced with was a 281

man...who would spend 160k on a mustang saleen s351 supercharged?? why not get porsche turbo 911 ?

2001AudiS4

6 spd S4, 14 seconds FLAT. Like I said, depends on the launch. With AWD, rev up to abot 3-4000 RPM and let it go, 1/4=14 seconds. This is obviously not great for the car so in more reasonable driving then the 1/4 mile time obviously raises.

TL-S Man

The Saleen is one of those specialty cars whose reason for being is to go fast as hell. The TL-S is simply S L O W E R: it is a 6 where the Mustang is a massaged V-8. The Acura is a cruiser and the Stang is a bruiser. I am not a Ford man (I like the Chevy Z28 which makes its exit later this year.) He was playing with you: sounds like he was funnin' wit' ya.
If it was an M3, or C32 you'd have 20000 less money in the bank. Part of that 20 grand could go into aftermarket stuff to trounce the M3 or C32...but it would still be a Ford... : )